1 2010-09-26 00:04:32 <jgarzik> second: buybitcoins.com if you have a credit card
  2 2010-09-26 00:04:58 <second> 15 bitcoins for a $1
  3 2010-09-26 00:05:05 <doublec> second, you can use http://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ to get 0.05 (or 0.50 if their balance is >$500) free bitcoins to try out
  4 2010-09-26 00:05:25 <second> already did :P
  5 2010-09-26 00:06:40 <doublec> i hate how web browers give an enourmous warning with sites like buybitcoins.com that use self signed certs
  6 2010-09-26 01:02:26 <Keefe> i got a quick (4.5 hrs) reply from Jed at MtGox saying he'll investigate my missing 50 btc (from my sending twice to the same address) tomorrow
  7 2010-09-26 01:02:43 <Keefe> nice to see they're still actively responding to users
  8 2010-09-26 01:03:50 <doublec> was that sending too mtg or sending from mtg to an address?
  9 2010-09-26 01:10:13 <Keefe> sending from my bitcoin client to mtgox
 10 2010-09-26 01:11:57 <Keefe> i used their "Add Funds" page to generate a unique address for me to send btc to my mtgox account
 11 2010-09-26 01:12:13 <Keefe> but then i sent twice to that same address
 12 2010-09-26 01:12:22 <Keefe> only one was added to my account there
 13 2010-09-26 01:32:48 <Kiba> too much warning sign lead to security inevitablity
 14 2010-09-26 01:43:34 <Keefe> ?
 15 2010-09-26 01:47:04 <Kiba> Keefe: it make people accept certificate that would otherwise be...questionable
 16 2010-09-26 01:47:22 <Keefe> ah, yes
 17 2010-09-26 01:48:02 <Keefe> but if it didn't make it so obvious, it would be easier for fake sites to trick people
 18 2010-09-26 01:49:00 <Keefe> the browser is playing it safe and assuming that all untrusted sites are malicious
 19 2010-09-26 01:49:31 <Keefe> i mean, all sites signed with an untrusted cert
 20 2010-09-26 01:50:34 <Keefe> i haven't looked, but isn't there an option in most browsers to not warn about this stuff?
 21 2010-09-26 01:50:46 <theymos> It would be stupid for a browser to accept self-signed certs without informing the user. The cert should be verified in some out-of-band way in these cases.
 22 2010-09-26 02:24:24 <jgarzik> That's handy.  Wolfram Alpha has an easy to use algebra solver
 23 2010-09-26 02:27:06 <Kiba> ActionView::TemplateError (undefined method `will_paginate' for #<ActionView::Base:0x2b8394213098>) on line #4 of app/views/dashboard/show.html.erb:
 24 2010-09-26 02:27:46 <Kiba> 
 25 2010-09-26 02:28:07 <Kiba> wrong place
 26 2010-09-26 03:09:39 <Kiba> bitcoining is a wholely entrepenurial enterprise
 27 2010-09-26 03:22:37 <doublec> theymos, but no one verifies them out of bound. they just click 'accept anyway' and learn to ignore the error
 28 2010-09-26 03:23:10 <doublec> valid certificates are already shown on the URL bar of most browsers by showing the domain name in a different colour
 29 2010-09-26 03:24:15 <theymos> doublec: I check Perspectives notaries for sites that don't have a valid cert. http://moo.cmcl.cs.cmu.edu/perspectives/
 30 2010-09-26 03:26:22 <Kiba> bitcoin is a community that see money as a postive social order.
 31 2010-09-26 05:36:38 <doublec> has anyone succcessfully used bitlaundry? When I try it it never gives me a 'one shot' address. The page that is supposed to quote it just says the address is 'None'.
 32 2010-09-26 05:38:01 <lfm> I never looked at it
 33 2010-09-26 05:45:32 <doublec> possibly it's no longer maintained. their email doesn't work either.
 34 2010-09-26 05:45:38 <Diablo-D3> man
 35 2010-09-26 05:45:45 <Diablo-D3> whatever the fuck happened to skateboards
 36 2010-09-26 05:46:22 <lfm> bunch of new different type out now it seems, is that what you mean?
 37 2010-09-26 05:47:33 <Diablo-D3> I never see people with them anymore
 38 2010-09-26 05:47:34 <Diablo-D3> also
 39 2010-09-26 05:47:50 <lfm> oh still see em around here in summer at least
 40 2010-09-26 05:48:02 <Diablo-D3> what happened to libyan terrorists
 41 2010-09-26 05:48:37 <lfm> lybia got tired of being the nutcase country and is freinds now
 42 2010-09-26 05:49:18 <Diablo-D3> man, the middle east totally fucked everything up
 43 2010-09-26 05:49:27 <Diablo-D3> like, planes got hijacked and got flown to cuba
 44 2010-09-26 05:50:02 <lfm> you just noticing now that the mid east is a torubled area?
 45 2010-09-26 05:50:19 <Diablo-D3> no like
 46 2010-09-26 05:50:22 <Diablo-D3> they totally ruined shit
 47 2010-09-26 05:50:48 <Diablo-D3> lfm: and no
 48 2010-09-26 05:50:51 <Diablo-D3> Im watching bttf
 49 2010-09-26 05:51:51 <lfm> oh, don't beleive the 50s were as nice as hollywood remembers them to be
 50 2010-09-26 05:52:04 <Diablo-D3> oh they arent
 51 2010-09-26 05:52:08 <Diablo-D3> but that was true in the 50s
 52 2010-09-26 05:52:39 <lfm> or any other time for that matter. hollywood is pretty F'ed up too
 53 2010-09-26 05:52:50 <Diablo-D3> well
 54 2010-09-26 05:52:53 <Diablo-D3> the 80s remembers the 80s well
 55 2010-09-26 05:52:57 <Diablo-D3> because the 80s WAS movies
 56 2010-09-26 05:53:30 <lfm> I remember the 80s as the yuppies. the return of greed and such
 57 2010-09-26 05:53:41 <Diablo-D3> return of?
 58 2010-09-26 05:53:43 <Diablo-D3> srsly?
 59 2010-09-26 05:54:00 <Diablo-D3> cain killed able because able jewed him on an investment
 60 2010-09-26 05:54:10 <lfm> the hippies kinda tried to say greed was bad
 61 2010-09-26 05:55:19 <lfm> Micheal J Fox again but in his Family Ties role.
 62 2010-09-26 05:55:47 <Diablo-D3> s/Family Ties/BTTF/
 63 2010-09-26 05:55:57 <Diablo-D3> infact, Im now retroactively changing history
 64 2010-09-26 05:56:31 <lfm> so bttf is about a greedy republican capitalist now?
 65 2010-09-26 05:56:39 <Diablo-D3> technically yes
 66 2010-09-26 05:56:42 <Diablo-D3> biff.
 67 2010-09-26 05:56:49 <lfm> ah ha
 68 2010-09-26 05:56:50 <Diablo-D3> and he totally gets raped in the end
 69 2010-09-26 05:58:21 <Diablo-D3> olay Im not going to watch bttf
 70 2010-09-26 07:12:55 <bitbot> lfm: CurrentBlockCount( 82,115 blocks ) CurrentDifficulty( 917.8309374400 ) NextDifficultyAt( 82,656 blocks ) NextDifficultyIn( 541 blocks )
 71 2010-09-26 07:12:55 <lfm> ;nr
 72 2010-09-26 07:13:03 <lfm> ;estimate
 73 2010-09-26 07:13:04 <bitbot> lfm: LastDiff(7d 07:06:56 ago)  ExpBlocks(1050)  ActualBlocks(1475)  TrgNewDiffDate(2010/10/03 02:04:07 GMT)  EstNewDiffDate(2010/09/29 01:24:46 GMT)  EstNewDiff(1289.33393593)
 74 2010-09-26 07:50:43 <joe_1> My new bitsite is ready for beta testing
 75 2010-09-26 07:53:59 <joe_1> 95.211.13.33:10619
 76 2010-09-26 07:54:18 <joe_1> i dont have  a dot com name yet
 77 2010-09-26 07:58:13 <joe_1> melasek will you try out my new bitcoin website
 78 2010-09-26 07:58:46 <melasek> yes :)
 79 2010-09-26 07:59:11 <joe_1> ok, its at 95.211.13.33:10619 (still working on getting a dotcom name)
 80 2010-09-26 07:59:25 <melasek> I have been registered a domain and also work on my website ;)
 81 2010-09-26 07:59:38 <joe_1> oh, what is yours?
 82 2010-09-26 07:59:49 <melasek> www.bitcoin.pl  - it's my domain
 83 2010-09-26 08:00:06 <melasek> now is redirect to -->bitcoin.org
 84 2010-09-26 08:00:29 <melasek> sorry my english is not strong :(
 85 2010-09-26 08:00:40 <joe_1> o
 86 2010-09-26 08:01:41 <melasek> but idea of bitcoins impress me
 87 2010-09-26 08:01:58 <doublec> joe_1, why the weird port number?
 88 2010-09-26 08:03:17 <joe_1> its thru a vpn
 89 2010-09-26 08:03:29 <doublec> ah, ok
 90 2010-09-26 08:03:33 <joe_1> so now i need to somehow forward it from a port 80 host
 91 2010-09-26 08:04:55 <doublec> "person deposit address" is that the address to send coins to?
 92 2010-09-26 08:05:06 <joe_1> yes
 93 2010-09-26 08:05:16 <doublec> nice graphics - did you write the flash app?
 94 2010-09-26 08:05:39 <joe_1> no but i improved an existing one
 95 2010-09-26 08:06:41 <melasek> joe_1  can U paste a link to your website ?
 96 2010-09-26 08:06:56 <joe_1> its at http://95.211.13.33:10619/
 97 2010-09-26 08:07:28 <melasek> login and pass ? ;>
 98 2010-09-26 08:07:39 <joe_1> you just make one up and it will create your account
 99 2010-09-26 08:08:22 <doublec> i tried to transfer from checking to casino but it did nothing
100 2010-09-26 08:08:34 <doublec> does it wait for the original bc deposit to be confirmed first?
101 2010-09-26 08:08:36 <joe_1> It takes 2 confirmations before the funds are available for play
102 2010-09-26 08:08:40 <melasek> casio ? ;D
103 2010-09-26 08:08:54 <doublec> right, thought so. Might need an error message there.
104 2010-09-26 08:10:14 <doublec> I'm going to go broke with all these casino's, lotteries and stuff starting up
105 2010-09-26 08:10:29 <doublec> all I need is online poker and I'll be a confirmed addict
106 2010-09-26 08:11:08 <joe_1> i lose so much money in real life in casinos
107 2010-09-26 08:11:15 <doublec> hehe join the club
108 2010-09-26 08:11:22 <doublec> better to be the casino operator
109 2010-09-26 08:12:09 <joe_1> And I agree about needing an error message-- right now, when an action can't be completed, the site just ignores the request and keeps going
110 2010-09-26 08:12:36 <doublec> I really like the look of the flash app - very professional
111 2010-09-26 08:12:45 <doublec> just waiting for my 2nd confirmation to actually try it
112 2010-09-26 08:13:20 <joe_1> Yeah, it's 5 minutes I think.
113 2010-09-26 08:13:28 <joe_1> of course that is an average
114 2010-09-26 08:13:40 <doublec> yep
115 2010-09-26 08:13:51 <joe_1> I should really bring it down to 1 confirmation
116 2010-09-26 08:13:54 <doublec> I think anyone using bitcoins will be used to the wait
117 2010-09-26 08:17:04 <joe_1> looks like another confirmation came through
118 2010-09-26 08:17:48 <doublec> yep, just got to two
119 2010-09-26 08:19:11 <doublec> i suck at routlette obviously
120 2010-09-26 08:19:55 <doublec> w00t, player wins!
121 2010-09-26 08:20:37 <doublec> so rigger
122 2010-09-26 08:20:41 <doublec> d
123 2010-09-26 08:20:45 <doublec> I kid of course :)
124 2010-09-26 08:20:51 <doublec> seems to play fine
125 2010-09-26 08:20:58 <bonsaikitten> online games are inherently hard to trust
126 2010-09-26 08:21:18 <bonsaikitten> the only way I'd play something like roulette would be with a webcam setup where I can see what happens
127 2010-09-26 08:22:07 <doublec> I just take it for granted that it's for fun and a gamble
128 2010-09-26 08:22:13 <doublec> but you're right
129 2010-09-26 08:22:21 <doublec> they are hard to trust
130 2010-09-26 08:22:42 <doublec> it's a perception the online poker sites struggle with I'm sure
131 2010-09-26 08:23:12 <bonsaikitten> well, I can think of a dozen trivial ways to cheat
132 2010-09-26 08:23:23 <doublec> joe_1, I think I just made you rich
133 2010-09-26 08:23:40 <joe_1> haha, why
134 2010-09-26 08:23:50 <doublec> joe_1, to the tune of 30 cents US anyway
135 2010-09-26 08:23:57 <doublec> I lost my investment of 5bc
136 2010-09-26 08:24:19 <joe_1> well
137 2010-09-26 08:24:23 <doublec> joe_1, I like the site. It'll be good with a little polish (error messages and stuff)
138 2010-09-26 08:24:45 <joe_1> yeah, thanks for the advice, it definitely needs some work on appearance
139 2010-09-26 08:24:48 <doublec> bonsaikitten, as a site owner or site user?
140 2010-09-26 08:25:06 <bonsaikitten> yes ;)
141 2010-09-26 08:25:10 <doublec> haha
142 2010-09-26 08:25:19 <bonsaikitten> many poker sites allow visitors to watch games
143 2010-09-26 08:25:29 <doublec> joe_1, I suspect this is in the 'too hard' basket but some form of multiplayer would be interesting
144 2010-09-26 08:25:33 <bonsaikitten> so get a friend or two on skype, let them join your game and tell you what's playing
145 2010-09-26 08:25:38 <doublec> joe_1, where multiple people can bet, can chat, etc
146 2010-09-26 08:25:48 <bonsaikitten> and that's just the obvious obvious :)
147 2010-09-26 08:25:50 <doublec> bonsaikitten, yes, collusion can be an issue
148 2010-09-26 08:25:56 <joe_1> multi player roulette, or multi player games such as poker and blackjack?
149 2010-09-26 08:26:08 <doublec> joe_1, even roulette would be interesting multiplayer
150 2010-09-26 08:26:30 <doublec> joe_1, many people go to casino's for the aspect of playing with others, talking to them, cheering on their wins/losses
151 2010-09-26 08:27:14 <doublec> joe_1, the nice thing about chat is you can get people saying "wow, I just won $$$"
152 2010-09-26 08:27:18 <doublec> if they score big
153 2010-09-26 08:27:23 <doublec> to encourage others to try
154 2010-09-26 08:27:28 <joe_1> yea that would be pretty cool
155 2010-09-26 08:27:59 <joe_1> and just a chat room wouldn't be hard to implement
156 2010-09-26 08:28:14 <doublec> yeah, even just a global lobby for people to chat in
157 2010-09-26 08:28:28 <doublec> although begging for money might be an issue
158 2010-09-26 08:29:36 <joe_1> what they do on poker sites is they only let you talk if you're playing
159 2010-09-26 08:29:57 <joe_1> so we could just say that you have to have made a bet in the past few minutes to be able to talk
160 2010-09-26 08:30:31 <doublec> joe_1, yes, some sites also make it you need money in your account to chat
161 2010-09-26 08:30:57 <doublec> joe_1, one request would be to have a way to refresh the page that holds your balance. So when I make a deposit I can see it.
162 2010-09-26 08:31:26 <doublec> joe_1, at the moment if I hit the refresh button in the browser I get the "firefox must send another POST request to refresh this page" message
163 2010-09-26 08:31:33 <doublec> which I assume is my login post request
164 2010-09-26 08:31:46 <joe_1> Yeah, in fact let me put that in now.
165 2010-09-26 08:32:20 <doublec> I assume you want to host this behind an i2p address/
166 2010-09-26 08:32:23 <FreeMoney> I lost 12BTC
167 2010-09-26 08:32:26 <doublec> or similar?
168 2010-09-26 08:32:37 <FreeMoney> whats that number I need to call if I think I have a problem?
169 2010-09-26 08:32:52 <doublec> 1-800-gamblers-anonymous
170 2010-09-26 08:32:52 <joe_1> hold on one second let me get it
171 2010-09-26 08:32:58 <Diablo-D3> lol
172 2010-09-26 08:33:02 <FreeMoney> ty
173 2010-09-26 08:34:43 <doublec> joe_1, so if I hit my number betting 200bc, do you have the bitcoins to cover it?
174 2010-09-26 08:35:30 <doublec> joe_1, some page with details about your bitcoin reserve or some other mechanism to encourage trust might be useful
175 2010-09-26 08:36:18 <doublec> I see a refresh button, thanks :)
176 2010-09-26 08:37:33 <joe_1> i can only cover......4200 right now, but i can cover anything in 2 weeks
177 2010-09-26 08:39:07 <FreeMoney> You should probably cap the betting
178 2010-09-26 08:39:32 <FreeMoney> The darts game has a dynamic cap adjustment
179 2010-09-26 08:39:44 <FreeMoney> That's pretty clever imo
180 2010-09-26 08:39:57 <joe_1> the betting is capped at the client at 200 which pays 7000 straight up
181 2010-09-26 08:41:49 <joe_1> this site also does instant withdrawal via the "Send [  ] BTC to foreign receiving address [   ]"
182 2010-09-26 08:41:55 <doublec> dynamic cap is a good idea
183 2010-09-26 08:42:17 <doublec> or at least manually lower it until you can cover it
184 2010-09-26 08:42:44 <joe_1> Yeah, I agree. I was thinking 50 for right now
185 2010-09-26 08:42:53 <doublec> it'd suck to have someone hit it at 200 right now and bankrupt you
186 2010-09-26 08:43:19 <doublec> 50 is probably good. Not many would trust a new site with 200 anyway.
187 2010-09-26 08:54:33 <joe_1> yeah, I just put in a 50 BTC per spot limit
188 2010-09-26 09:02:58 <joe_1> Are there any services that accept bitcoins for getting a .com name or any domain name so the site does not have to be an ip address?
189 2010-09-26 09:04:33 <doublec> this page lists at least one: http://www.bitcoin.org/trade
190 2010-09-26 09:04:56 <doublec> "Privacy Shark" anonymous domain names and dns
191 2010-09-26 09:06:55 <joe_1> ok
192 2010-09-26 09:07:21 <doublec> are you looking for just a domain or also for actual hosting?
193 2010-09-26 09:07:38 <joe_1> right now just a domain
194 2010-09-26 09:08:00 <joe_1> unfortunately i also need this thing to change the port number too, which dns won't do
195 2010-09-26 09:08:21 <doublec> yeah, that's what I was wondering
196 2010-09-26 09:08:56 <joe_1> there are services out there that will redirect traffic coming in on their port 80 to an ip and port you specify
197 2010-09-26 09:09:46 <doublec> I can get a domain and transfer it to you if you pay the equivalent USD costs to me with  bitcoin
198 2010-09-26 09:10:31 <joe_1> Would that solve the port problem?
199 2010-09-26 09:10:38 <doublec> No
200 2010-09-26 09:11:01 <doublec> unfortunately
201 2010-09-26 09:11:19 <doublec> is it all http traffic over the port?
202 2010-09-26 09:11:33 <doublec> or does the flash app also require some form of forwarding?
203 2010-09-26 09:12:54 <joe_1> yes it's all http over the same port
204 2010-09-26 09:13:03 <joe_1> flash app also communicates with http over the same port
205 2010-09-26 09:13:55 <doublec> can you afford something like a linode (http://linode.com) to host and run things?
206 2010-09-26 09:14:41 <doublec> $19.95/month
207 2010-09-26 09:15:38 <joe_1> yeah, I considered that, but these services dont usually take bitcoins
208 2010-09-26 09:17:13 <joe_1> There is port80hosting.com which basically forwards the traffic
209 2010-09-26 09:18:37 <doublec> beginnner plan for free - can't argue with that
210 2010-09-26 09:26:31 <joe_1> would you like to become my first employee and set the port80hosting up?
211 2010-09-26 09:29:00 <doublec> I might be able to do something for you on one of my servers
212 2010-09-26 09:29:17 <doublec> let me try a quick test
213 2010-09-26 09:31:11 <joe_1> k
214 2010-09-26 10:21:06 <joe_1> hey
215 2010-09-26 10:24:08 <doublec> hi
216 2010-09-26 10:24:31 <doublec> I tried adding an extra ip address to one of my servers to redirect to yours but couldn't quite get it working
217 2010-09-26 10:24:59 <doublec> but I did successfully knock myself off the internet while doing it :)
218 2010-09-26 10:25:10 <joe_1> oh that sucks
219 2010-09-26 10:26:24 <joe_1> not sure why it wouldnt work
220 2010-09-26 10:30:04 <joe_1> well thanks anyway for trying, i'm probably just going to go with port80hosting.com
221 2010-09-26 10:30:13 <doublec> no worries
222 2010-09-26 10:31:25 <joe_1> anyways im going to bed i'll probably see you around thanks for testing the site
223 2010-09-26 10:34:55 <doublec> no problem, good luck with your site!
224 2010-09-26 10:35:30 <joe_1> thanks
225 2010-09-26 15:04:51 <grondilu> Hi.  If I buy some bitcoins, I can store them in a wallet.dat file on my computer, right ?
226 2010-09-26 15:34:49 <Zarutian> pretty much, yes. What wallet.dat stores are the private cryptographic keys for your bitcoin addresses among other things.
227 2010-09-26 15:36:34 <Zarutian> so I (and others) urge you to keep a backup of it somewhere safe.
228 2010-09-26 15:43:12 <redMBA> I urge you to give me your wallet.dat to back-up  :)
229 2010-09-26 15:44:28 <grondilu> :)
230 2010-09-26 15:45:15 <grondilu> So for back-up I can just encrypt this file with GPG and store it online on some data storage provider ?
231 2010-09-26 15:48:29 <redMBA> wow, that'd be very bullish
232 2010-09-26 15:49:48 <bitbot> Zarutian: CurrentBlockCount( 82,186 blocks ) CurrentDifficulty( 917.8309374400 ) NextDifficultyAt( 82,656 blocks ) NextDifficultyIn( 470 blocks )
233 2010-09-26 15:49:48 <Zarutian> ; bcs
234 2010-09-26 15:54:33 <grondilu> there's a few things I don't understand well though.  For instance, what exactly prevents the system from creating more than 21 millions bitcoins ?  I red that it is due to geometrically increasing difficulty, but what's preventing the users from changing that and to issue a new version of the softare, switching back agin to a lower difficulty ?
235 2010-09-26 15:58:28 <dwdollar> The nature of peer to peer networks prevents it.  Each node has to "approve" of it.
236 2010-09-26 16:01:32 <grondilu> yeah that makes sense.
237 2010-09-26 16:02:29 <dwdollar> A group can split the current chain or start a new one, but their Bitcoins won't be valid with the main one.
238 2010-09-26 16:02:41 <grondilu> Seriuously, I've discovered bitcoin this week-end and I'm still amazed by this stuff.  This guy, Satoshi Nakamato, surely accomplished something great here.
239 2010-09-26 16:02:55 <redMBA> grondilu, the bits assigned to hold the index run out at 21 million
240 2010-09-26 16:03:51 <grondilu> redMBA: I hope that's not the real explanation, since the index could be replaced by a bigger one, couldn't it ?
241 2010-09-26 16:04:15 <Zarutian> well the two ideas: using a hash chained data blocks and signed transfers arent new but in combination with ,,hardness'' factor it is pretty good
242 2010-09-26 16:04:19 <redMBA> I don't believe the current implementation would allow that
243 2010-09-26 16:04:50 <grondilu> well, a modified but compatible implementation could.
244 2010-09-26 16:04:52 <redMBA> it'd require a switch to a new non-backward compatible version
245 2010-09-26 18:21:43 <Keefe> what's the odds of rolling a 6-sided die 18 times and getting a number less than four only twice? that's how unlucky i've been in the last 14 hours :(
246 2010-09-26 18:22:29 <bonsaikitten> Keefe: rough guess it's near one in a million
247 2010-09-26 18:29:31 <kermit> ondemand cpufreq mode, nicing bitcoin, and echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load  and also cpu0.. makes for a cool running but bitcoin generating laptop
248 2010-09-26 18:30:04 <kermit> ie, so it keeps the CPU at 800MHz  unless something not niced needs more
249 2010-09-26 19:19:02 <Keefe> actually the odds are 1 in 1524
250 2010-09-26 19:19:08 <Keefe> still quite unlucky
251 2010-09-26 19:22:19 <bonsaikitten> how did you get to that number?
252 2010-09-26 19:41:52 <Keefe> to be precise, i meant the odds of getting <4 no more than twice in 18 rolls
253 2010-09-26 19:42:45 <Keefe> 1 in (2^18)/(1+18+(9*17))
254 2010-09-26 19:47:18 <Keefe> i can explain further if you want
255 2010-09-26 20:08:49 <nanotube> Keefe: mm, yep, 1524 it is. :)
256 2010-09-26 20:25:44 <Keefe> mtgox added the missing 50btc to my account today
257 2010-09-26 20:28:12 <Keefe> not sure yet whether they actually found the missing btc or whether they just took some from their own funds to satisfy their customer (me)
258 2010-09-26 20:28:19 <Keefe> waiting for another email reply
259 2010-09-26 20:29:18 <Keefe> i suppose i could check sometime in the future whether the second 50btc i sent was ever spent
260 2010-09-26 20:31:11 <Keefe> but as far as i'm concerned, all's good now
261 2010-09-26 20:31:48 <T_X> kermit: does this ondemand cpufreq need a special kernel version?
262 2010-09-26 20:32:14 <Keefe> except i want them to add a warning to their site saying the addresses are one-use only and additional trasnfers to the same address could be lost
263 2010-09-26 20:32:28 <T_X> because I don't have it here on a debian unstable, 2.6.32 kernel. intel core 2 duo
264 2010-09-26 21:52:01 <kupo> oh jesus, new version?
265 2010-09-26 21:52:36 <kupo> oh wait no I'm ok
266 2010-09-26 23:47:10 <grondilu> gosh I can't sleep !  I keep thinking about this great stuff.  To me bitcoin is the "cyperspace gold".  I'm just amazed.
267 2010-09-26 23:48:52 <grondilu> we should call it "cybergold"
268 2010-09-26 23:49:39 <MacRohard> the domain was taken
269 2010-09-26 23:49:45 <grondilu> ah
270 2010-09-26 23:51:58 <grondilu> I'm thinking about creating a mailbot that could allow me to accept offers from people and buy bitcoins with a basic auction-based system.
271 2010-09-26 23:52:26 <grondilu> I'd prefer that to web based exchange platforms
272 2010-09-26 23:54:45 <grondilu> I've already written a natural language template that the bot will reply to any incoming mail with "BCTEUR TERMS" in the subject :  http://pastebin.ca/1949333
273 2010-09-26 23:58:37 <MacRohard> personally i'd rather have a web interface