1 2011-04-28 00:01:48 <dotblank> gah bit coins are getting too expensive..
  2 2011-04-28 00:01:52 <dotblank> ugh
  3 2011-04-28 00:01:55 <luke-jr> dotblank: so buy less?
  4 2011-04-28 00:02:09 <luke-jr> prices should be dropping with it
  5 2011-04-28 00:02:18 <dotblank> well i'm like the value will go do its just stuff from the press and it will drop soon
  6 2011-04-28 00:02:50 <dotblank> down*
  7 2011-04-28 00:03:58 <AmpEater> I wouldn't take that bet
  8 2011-04-28 00:04:05 <AmpEater> (but thats just me)
  9 2011-04-28 00:11:22 <mango> BTC @ 1.98!
 10 2011-04-28 00:11:51 <AmpEater> hot damn
 11 2011-04-28 00:11:56 <AmpEater> beers on me!
 12 2011-04-28 00:12:14 <mango> Next stop 2.50 - 2.75
 13 2011-04-28 00:12:18 <mango> easily
 14 2011-04-28 00:25:24 <x5x> wait im confused, http://mtgox.com/trade/history , that shows an ask for 1000 bcn at 2.6 USD ?
 15 2011-04-28 00:25:46 <x5x> does that mean if somone can sell 1000 bcn at 2.6 right now ?
 16 2011-04-28 00:26:35 <retinal> x5x: yes
 17 2011-04-28 00:26:39 <retinal> but there isn't any buyer
 18 2011-04-28 00:26:55 <retinal> bids = people willing to pay
 19 2011-04-28 00:26:59 <retinal> asks = people willing to sell
 20 2011-04-28 00:27:03 <nanotube> i can put an ask for 1million usd/btc... but i'll probably have to wait quite a while for that to be filled.
 21 2011-04-28 00:27:14 <x5x> ah i had it backwards
 22 2011-04-28 00:27:42 <retinal> nanotube: is that seriously even possible?
 23 2011-04-28 00:27:59 <retinal> rather, does the mtgox interface support that?
 24 2011-04-28 00:28:16 <retinal> it'd be a great way to screw up all of the pretty graphs
 25 2011-04-28 00:28:43 <nanotube> retinal: haha well, the mtgox display truncates the order book in a certain window around the bid-ask spread.
 26 2011-04-28 00:28:48 <nanotube> so the 1m ask won't even show up.
 27 2011-04-28 00:29:00 <nanotube> but hey, why don't i try it and see what happens :)
 28 2011-04-28 00:29:22 <retinal> :)
 29 2011-04-28 00:29:30 <x5x> cuz ask is usually the buy price
 30 2011-04-28 00:29:39 <retinal> I was going to test it out, but I don't have any funds in my mtgox account at the moment
 31 2011-04-28 00:30:10 <retinal> x5x: nope, that's exactly how it's normally called
 32 2011-04-28 00:30:12 <nanotube> x5x: you're missing something. ask is normally the sell price :)
 33 2011-04-28 00:30:23 <nanotube> retinal: well i placed my 1m usd ask. see it anywhere? :)
 34 2011-04-28 00:30:31 <nanotube> it probably showed up on the websocket...
 35 2011-04-28 00:30:37 <nanotube> but other than that, nothing to show for it.
 36 2011-04-28 00:30:52 <retinal> hmm, nope
 37 2011-04-28 00:30:57 <retinal> I am diappointed :(
 38 2011-04-28 00:31:00 <retinal> no fun
 39 2011-04-28 00:31:28 <retinal> not on the depth of market list below the chart
 40 2011-04-28 00:32:07 <nanotube> right - as i said, it truncates.
 41 2011-04-28 00:32:22 <nanotube> but hey - at least we can all say that there's > 1m usd worth of bitcoin on offer on mtgox :)
 42 2011-04-28 00:32:22 <x5x> nanotube, ah ok, its cuz im used to forex, which is kinda reverse
 43 2011-04-28 00:32:37 <x5x> "A Forex asking price is the price at which the market is ready to sell a certain Forex Trading currency pair in the online Forex market. This is the price that the trader buys in."
 44 2011-04-28 00:32:40 <JFK911> ;;bc,mtgox
 45 2011-04-28 00:32:41 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":1.98,"low":1.7201,"vol":43462,"buy":1.9798,"sell":1.9799,"last":1.9798}}
 46 2011-04-28 00:32:45 <nanotube> x5x: yea forex is weird, with the currency pairs and stuff. :)
 47 2011-04-28 00:33:09 <nanotube> x5x: mmm that actually sounds the same. ask is price market is ready to sell.
 48 2011-04-28 00:33:17 <nanotube> so if you want to buy, that's what you'd pay.
 49 2011-04-28 00:33:31 <x5x> yea but, from teh buyers perspective, ask is the price they can buy at
 50 2011-04-28 00:33:42 <x5x> but in mtgox from teh buyers perspective, the bid is teh price they can buy at
 51 2011-04-28 00:33:55 <gribble> Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
 52 2011-04-28 00:33:55 <JFK911> ;;bc,stat
 53 2011-04-28 00:33:57 <JFK911> ;;bc,stats
 54 2011-04-28 00:33:59 <gribble> Current Blocks: 120584 | Current Difficulty: 92347.59095209 | Next Difficulty At Block: 120959 | Next Difficulty In: 375 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 2 hours, 25 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 107611.98065696
 55 2011-04-28 00:35:07 <nanotube> x5x: nope
 56 2011-04-28 00:35:20 <nanotube> 'best ask' is the lowest asking price. so it is the price you can buy at.
 57 2011-04-28 00:35:27 <nanotube> because someone is offering
 58 2011-04-28 00:35:50 <Vladimir> forum got new record
 59 2011-04-28 00:35:53 <Vladimir> Most Online Today: 609. Most Online Ever: 609 (Today at 02:31:37 am)
 60 2011-04-28 00:35:54 <nanotube> best bid is the highest price someone /wants/ to buy at, but not necessarily price you /can/ buy at.
 61 2011-04-28 00:36:01 <nanotube> only if a matching ask comes in.
 62 2011-04-28 00:36:07 <dissipate> Vladimir, why is the forum down? too much traffic?
 63 2011-04-28 00:36:12 <retinal> x5x: think auctions; the seller asks, the buyer bids
 64 2011-04-28 00:36:22 <Vladimir> given the record numbers this must be it
 65 2011-04-28 00:36:25 <x5x> nanotube, oh you can only buy it at the best ask ? not at any ask ?
 66 2011-04-28 00:36:41 <sacarlson> it might be a while before my 0.98 buy strike hits now
 67 2011-04-28 00:36:48 <dissipate> for the love of all that is unholy, why can't bitcoin.org and the forums get a decent host that can handle traffic spikes??
 68 2011-04-28 00:36:56 <nanotube> x5x: well, on automated order matching exchanges like mtgox, it'll automatically fill lowest ask.
 69 2011-04-28 00:37:10 <sirius> 500 guests on forum
 70 2011-04-28 00:37:11 <nanotube> if you want to pay a higher price, you can of course negotiate a deal OTC
 71 2011-04-28 00:37:24 <x5x> cuz there is an ask for bitcoins at 3USD, so ur saying the only reason u cant buy those at 3 is because its not the best ask price
 72 2011-04-28 00:37:27 <nanotube> sirius: saw my earlier comment? about moving site to sf.net projectweb?
 73 2011-04-28 00:37:44 <nanotube> x5x: i'll sell you some at $3 if you want. hell, i can even go to $5 :)
 74 2011-04-28 00:38:07 <Vladimir> well I have offered my help, and it is my speciality high load/high availability stuff, but they did not seem to be too interested
 75 2011-04-28 00:38:19 <jrabbit> sirius: is there a fast proxy infront of it for static content?
 76 2011-04-28 00:38:19 <sacarlson> otc is where is where my first buy in was at 0.75
 77 2011-04-28 00:38:29 <jrabbit> hell for all of it
 78 2011-04-28 00:38:53 <Vladimir> sirius: what kind of hardware are you running?
 79 2011-04-28 00:38:55 <sirius> nanotube: sf.net projectweb is quite limited
 80 2011-04-28 00:38:59 <luke-jr> sirius: you got miners?
 81 2011-04-28 00:39:01 <sirius> unless they changed something since last year
 82 2011-04-28 00:39:13 <dissipate> Vladimir, at least you tried!
 83 2011-04-28 00:39:23 <nanotube> ;;whatis #sourceforge projectweb
 84 2011-04-28 00:39:24 <gribble> The documentation for project web services is available here: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Project%20web
 85 2011-04-28 00:39:29 <nanotube> sirius: ^ they offer quite a bit of stuff.
 86 2011-04-28 00:39:44 <nanotube> it certainly is good enough to host the static front page for bitcoin.org
 87 2011-04-28 00:39:50 <x5x> mtgox shows "Ask
 88 2011-04-28 00:39:53 <nanotube> and if the smf uses mysql, should be able to host smf as well.
 89 2011-04-28 00:40:13 <nanotube> x5x: no. it means they are willing to sell 22.67 coins at 3 each.
 90 2011-04-28 00:40:26 <dissipate> nanotube, it seems ycombinator linked directly to the bitcoin forums
 91 2011-04-28 00:40:39 <dissipate> for the thread about gavin go to the cia
 92 2011-04-28 00:40:43 <nanotube> dissipate: hehe ic
 93 2011-04-28 00:40:46 <sirius> well yeah, it should be fine for the static front page
 94 2011-04-28 00:41:12 <nanotube> they have very robust web hosting - it won't go down just because of a slashdotting :)
 95 2011-04-28 00:41:17 <sirius> the mysql was very slow when I tested it in 2009
 96 2011-04-28 00:41:29 <x5x> so its erallly theyre askign to buy USD with 22.67 bitcoins at the rate of 3.0 USD/BCN
 97 2011-04-28 00:41:31 <nanotube> so i'd strongly suggest to move at least the front page to sf.net. it looks really bad when project site is down. :)
 98 2011-04-28 00:41:41 <nanotube> sirius: they've improved a lot of stuff since then. 2009 was a bad year for sf. :)
 99 2011-04-28 00:41:54 <dissipate> and now bitcoin.org front page is down
100 2011-04-28 00:41:59 <nanotube> x5x: sure, you can look at it like that :)
101 2011-04-28 00:42:08 <luke-jr> any more miners want to help test my pool?
102 2011-04-28 00:42:10 <dissipate> oh nevermind
103 2011-04-28 00:42:12 <nanotube> but bitcoin markets usually phrase things it terms of btc, rather than other currencies.
104 2011-04-28 00:42:15 <dissipate> it's just slow
105 2011-04-28 00:43:03 <Vladimir> ycombinator? link?
106 2011-04-28 00:43:22 <Kiba> bitcoin.org is down?
107 2011-04-28 00:43:31 <sacarlson> I'm looking to give away some weeds any body interested in 500 weeds for free to test
108 2011-04-28 00:43:38 <Kiba> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2491830
109 2011-04-28 00:43:48 <Vladimir> thanks
110 2011-04-28 00:43:55 <luke-jr> sacarlson: why would anyone want weeds?
111 2011-04-28 00:43:58 <luke-jr> give away grass
112 2011-04-28 00:43:59 <sacarlson> only available to the first 10
113 2011-04-28 00:44:12 <jrabbit> "Good to see something happening. I hadn't seen anything regarding Bitcoin on HN for about 24 hours and was starting to get worried.
114 2011-04-28 00:44:15 <jrabbit> Lol
115 2011-04-28 00:44:35 <x5x> ahahaha
116 2011-04-28 00:44:45 <sacarlson> luke-jr because pu239 was already taken
117 2011-04-28 00:45:00 <luke-jr> wtf?
118 2011-04-28 00:45:48 <sacarlson> freenode #weeds
119 2011-04-28 00:46:10 <luke-jr> sacarlson: so you don't have any switchgrass?
120 2011-04-28 00:46:14 <sacarlson> is used as the bootstrap
121 2011-04-28 00:46:29 <Freemoney> forum down?
122 2011-04-28 00:46:36 <Freemoney> n/m
123 2011-04-28 00:46:50 <sacarlson> luke-jr I don't know I'll have to check
124 2011-04-28 00:47:14 <Freemoney> eh, slow maybe down again
125 2011-04-28 00:47:18 <Freemoney> anyone else having trouble?
126 2011-04-28 00:47:42 <doublec> yes
127 2011-04-28 00:47:44 <doublec> ;;isitdown bitcoin.org
128 2011-04-28 00:47:49 <gribble> http://bitcoin.org Is Down -> Check if your website is up or down?
129 2011-04-28 00:49:41 <sacarlson> I have added the specs for weeds into the file bitcoin.conf.weeds for this network to access from the multi net client found here https://github.com/sacarlson/bitcoin
130 2011-04-28 00:50:12 <luke-jr> sacarlson: oh, are these weeds like carrots?
131 2011-04-28 00:50:21 <sacarlson> luke-jr yes
132 2011-04-28 00:50:29 <jrabbit> huh
133 2011-04-28 00:50:41 <luke-jr> jrabbit: carrot is a competing crypto-commodity
134 2011-04-28 00:50:47 <jrabbit> oh.
135 2011-04-28 00:51:27 <Vladimir> we are going to be at 3$ by end of this week, I bet
136 2011-04-28 00:51:53 <luke-jr> Vladimir: how much you bet?
137 2011-04-28 00:52:21 <Vladimir> Gavin's trip to CIA is a prime material for slashdot, reddit and even more mainstreamish news
138 2011-04-28 00:52:31 <AmpEater> indeed...
139 2011-04-28 00:52:31 <jrabbit> ooh are there short-mid-long range bitcoin bet sites yet?
140 2011-04-28 00:52:33 <AmpEater> hmm
141 2011-04-28 00:52:48 <luke-jr> Vladimir: gavin should harden bitcoin before he goes IMO
142 2011-04-28 00:52:53 <luke-jr> eg, randomize ports
143 2011-04-28 00:52:55 <jrabbit> lol.
144 2011-04-28 00:53:06 <luke-jr> right now, bitcoin is trivial to block
145 2011-04-28 00:53:10 <dissipate> Vladimir, Gavin is going behind enemy lines!
146 2011-04-28 00:53:15 <sacarlson> jrabbit: I've seen options offeres on otc for bitcoin
147 2011-04-28 00:53:16 <jrabbit> luke-jr: paranoid
148 2011-04-28 00:53:30 <jrabbit> sacarlson: lol @ weeds
149 2011-04-28 00:53:37 <luke-jr> jrabbit: realistic
150 2011-04-28 00:53:50 <Vladimir> I would say something about options, but it would sounds a shameless self promotion
151 2011-04-28 00:53:55 <dissipate> Vladimir, what do you think about Gavin accepting the $3,000 blood money?
152 2011-04-28 00:54:08 <Vladimir> I'd say ask for more
153 2011-04-28 00:54:13 <jrabbit> luke-jr: this is more of a TOR situation, everyone wins
154 2011-04-28 00:54:16 <dissipate> haha
155 2011-04-28 00:54:17 <jrabbit> Vladimir: haha
156 2011-04-28 00:54:40 <luke-jr> jrabbit: except then I have to figure out tor bs
157 2011-04-28 00:54:50 <jrabbit> sacarlson: is there a market for weeds/carrots?
158 2011-04-28 00:55:02 <dissipate> Vladimir, the funny thing is that they think there is someone to 'negotiate' with. when in fact there isn't. the source is out, third party clients all over the place. Gavin is a figure head.
159 2011-04-28 00:55:06 <Vladimir> nobody bought my carrot contracts
160 2011-04-28 00:55:20 <jrabbit> dissipate: um
161 2011-04-28 00:55:27 <jrabbit> they jsut asked for a tech talk
162 2011-04-28 00:55:33 <jrabbit> luke-jr: um
163 2011-04-28 00:55:35 <sacarlson> jrabbit: I have been offered to sell weeds for btc but I don't consider it ready for market yet it's only in it's test phase
164 2011-04-28 00:55:43 <jrabbit> luke-jr: you realzie tor was made by the US Navy right?
165 2011-04-28 00:55:51 <jrabbit> sacarlson: mhm
166 2011-04-28 00:56:10 <Vladimir> US Naval Intelligence, to be more specific
167 2011-04-28 00:56:18 <jrabbit> luke-jr: theres alot for an intelligence agency to like about a crypto-currency
168 2011-04-28 00:56:33 <jrabbit> they can pay sources not in USD, and it can't be traced to them
169 2011-04-28 00:56:49 <luke-jr> jrabbit: ok so?
170 2011-04-28 00:57:41 <Vladimir> we need to ask Gavin to report if he hears some gigling from backbenches during his talk, if so we would know that it those giggling guys are the ones who set this whole thing in moiton :-)
171 2011-04-28 00:58:13 <nanotube> Vladimir: haha
172 2011-04-28 00:58:18 <nanotube> and if one of them looks japanese. :)
173 2011-04-28 00:59:56 <jrabbit> sacarlson: you misspelt miner in https://github.com/sacarlson/bitcoin/blob/master/create_new_genisis_block.txt#L55
174 2011-04-28 01:00:27 <phantomcircuit> jrabbit, lol
175 2011-04-28 01:00:30 <sacarlson> jrabbit: I'm a very bad speller but as long as people can read it that good enuf for me
176 2011-04-28 01:01:53 <da2ce7> why is bitcoin getting slashdoted?
177 2011-04-28 01:02:34 <Vladimir> CIA is going to run black money using bitcoin
178 2011-04-28 01:02:40 <Vladimir> :-)
179 2011-04-28 01:03:05 <AmpEater> weird transactions
180 2011-04-28 01:03:34 <phantomcircuit> smf is getting pwnt
181 2011-04-28 01:04:12 <jrabbit> Vladimir: "can we send cocaine over the internet now?"
182 2011-04-28 01:04:35 <phantomcircuit> jrabbit, rofl
183 2011-04-28 01:04:47 <Vladimir> yea I guess it will on Q&A session
184 2011-04-28 01:04:51 <Vladimir> will be
185 2011-04-28 01:05:18 <jrabbit> or maybe they'll be like the SCOTUS: "Is it like a pager?"
186 2011-04-28 01:05:21 <sacarlson> jrabbit: seems #cocaine is avalable
187 2011-04-28 01:06:03 <phantomcircuit> who runs bitcoin.org again?
188 2011-04-28 01:06:34 <sacarlson> phantomcircuit: whois bitcoin.org
189 2011-04-28 01:06:36 <phantomcircuit> i think they need a donations pool for hosting
190 2011-04-28 01:06:37 <Vladimir> he's probably too busy to respond here
191 2011-04-28 01:07:02 <phantomcircuit> sacarlson, Anonymousspeech LLC?
192 2011-04-28 01:07:32 <sacarlson> phantomcircuit: ya I guess they don't want anyone to know
193 2011-04-28 01:07:59 <phantomcircuit> meh covertinferno.org is falseinfo
194 2011-04-28 01:08:02 <sacarlson> it was probly all financed by the CIA to start with
195 2011-04-28 01:08:05 <phantomcircuit> and yet im pretty open about who i am
196 2011-04-28 01:08:46 <dirtyfilthy> yeah i'd donate to a hosting pool
197 2011-04-28 01:08:52 <sacarlson> phantomcircuit: I"m stupid I put my name on everything
198 2011-04-28 01:08:53 <skyewm> hey could anyone send me the nvidia opencl sdk for linux?
199 2011-04-28 01:09:29 <skyewm> I didn't realize it takes up to five business days to register for an nvidia account...
200 2011-04-28 01:09:47 <dirtyfilthy> five days! that's crazy
201 2011-04-28 01:09:52 <phantomcircuit> that's ridiculous
202 2011-04-28 01:10:07 <AmpEater> lol
203 2011-04-28 01:10:19 <skyewm> yeah I'm pretty enraged atm
204 2011-04-28 01:10:26 <skyewm> I'm hoping it actually takes more like 1 day to approve it
205 2011-04-28 01:10:28 <sacarlson> skyewm: must be a torrent someplace
206 2011-04-28 01:10:34 <skyewm> but I was sort of hoping to set up something now...
207 2011-04-28 01:10:55 <OVerLoRDI> bitcoin forums down?
208 2011-04-28 01:11:01 <skyewm> sacarlson: I couldn't find one :(
209 2011-04-28 01:11:28 <da2ce7> ;;isitdown bitcoin.org/smf/
210 2011-04-28 01:11:33 <gribble> http://bitcoin.org Is Down -> Check if your website is up or down?
211 2011-04-28 01:12:03 <sacarlson> skyewm: would this work http://www.kat.ph/nvidia-opencl-1-0-conformant-release-tools-utilities-t2716967.html
212 2011-04-28 01:12:11 <Vladimir> lots of twits on Gavin's CIA gig... there is no such thing as bad publicity, isn't it?
213 2011-04-28 01:12:20 <da2ce7> lol
214 2011-04-28 01:12:43 <da2ce7> so this is all the CIA business
215 2011-04-28 01:12:59 <OVerLoRDI> hey da2ce7 out of curiosity how much hashing power do you have?
216 2011-04-28 01:13:07 <da2ce7> a bit.
217 2011-04-28 01:13:08 <Vladimir> propose new headline: CIA dosed bitcoin.org
218 2011-04-28 01:14:12 <da2ce7> well they have only killed the mysql so far
219 2011-04-28 01:14:47 <da2ce7> https://twitter.com/search?q=bitcoin
220 2011-04-28 01:15:12 <da2ce7> we need a squid on top of the smf
221 2011-04-28 01:15:40 <da2ce7> so it don't hit the mysql everytime somebody views the page
222 2011-04-28 01:17:51 <noagendamarket> looks like the whole of twitter came to the forum at once
223 2011-04-28 01:17:52 <Vladimir> not necessarily squid, but some hosting money and someone who knows what he is doing to advise
224 2011-04-28 01:18:17 <nanotube> or just stuff it up into sf.net, and let their beefy servers eat the load. :)
225 2011-04-28 01:18:36 <Vladimir> last time I seen forum online there were over 600 users, all time record
226 2011-04-28 01:20:10 <skyewm> sacarlson: oo looks promising, thanks!
227 2011-04-28 01:20:17 <da2ce7> it getting hit hard man
228 2011-04-28 01:20:49 <JFK911> ;;bc,mtgox
229 2011-04-28 01:20:49 <noagendamarket> last time it went down like this was the first slashdot
230 2011-04-28 01:20:50 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":1.98,"low":1.7201,"vol":43184,"buy":1.9415,"sell":1.971,"last":1.9455}}
231 2011-04-28 01:21:23 <noagendamarket> http://www.google.com/trends?q=bitcoin  look at this
232 2011-04-28 01:21:26 <noagendamarket> all time high
233 2011-04-28 01:21:41 <Vladimir> this storm is going to be much harder I think, I never saw twitter going so berserk over bitcoin
234 2011-04-28 01:21:54 <AmpEater> I was hitting twitter hard today
235 2011-04-28 01:22:11 <AmpEater> cros-promoting my #fuckSony hatred and bitcoin
236 2011-04-28 01:22:11 <nanotube> noagendamarket: hehe the russians are really digging bitcoin, it seems.
237 2011-04-28 01:22:27 <noagendamarket> lawl
238 2011-04-28 01:22:28 <AmpEater> plus that thread with 25k views
239 2011-04-28 01:22:40 <noagendamarket> the damn cia brought down the forum
240 2011-04-28 01:22:49 <noagendamarket> but accidentally!
241 2011-04-28 01:23:00 <noagendamarket> its kinda funny when you think about it
242 2011-04-28 01:23:14 <gekko_> I say $3 BTC by June 5
243 2011-04-28 01:23:14 <sacarlson> noagendamarket: it's the Russian man there invading
244 2011-04-28 01:23:43 <AmpEater> I say $3 BTC by june 4, 11:59 pm
245 2011-04-28 01:24:13 <da2ce7> the forum should use a squid (or some other transparent cache) for guest uses
246 2011-04-28 01:24:19 <RenaKunisaki> I say June 4, 11:58 PM. ;3
247 2011-04-28 01:24:21 <Vladimir> I'd say earlier, 20k$ buy and next stop 3, might happen today
248 2011-04-28 01:24:24 <AmpEater> :(
249 2011-04-28 01:24:43 <AmpEater> you've got 20k, do it already
250 2011-04-28 01:24:45 <sacarlson> AmpEater:  in a year we will be moving the decimal place on the user interface so you don't need to type so many .000034
251 2011-04-28 01:25:09 <nanotube> da2ce7: as i've been suggesting - just shove it up on sf.net and let them take care of it. they've got real beefy hw to handle all kinds of traffic.
252 2011-04-28 01:26:11 <AmpEater> I'm full prepared to handle that reality :) :)
253 2011-04-28 01:27:59 <luke-jr> sacarlson: don't bet on that
254 2011-04-28 01:29:11 <sacarlson> luke-jr  just being optomistic but in the long run I would assume that's what they would do with only 21 * 50 btc to play with I assume the numbers will get smaller
255 2011-04-28 01:29:16 <Vladimir> 1. separate static and dynamic content, 2. move statics to some CDN, 3. get rid of apache (if it is being used), 4. set up a reverse proxy in front. 5 separate db to another server(s). 6 Move to FastCGI for PHP, 7. Implement caching both on db and page level. 8. remove some features of forum which cause excessive db updates  9. tweak OS and TCP stack... in no particular order
256 2011-04-28 01:29:32 <sacarlson> sorry 21M * 50
257 2011-04-28 01:30:54 <sacarlson> wonder what the smalist soveran country has as an M2 money supply
258 2011-04-28 01:35:19 <da2ce7> bitcoin smf is back up!
259 2011-04-28 01:47:23 <gjs278> holy fuck fitting this 5970 was impossible
260 2011-04-28 01:47:27 <gjs278> had to remove my hd cage
261 2011-04-28 01:47:36 <luke-jr> gjs278: I just had to remove the HD itself
262 2011-04-28 01:47:45 <gjs278> my case is pretty big too
263 2011-04-28 01:48:15 <gjs278> my pc speaker got bumped out I think
264 2011-04-28 01:49:23 <Kiba> what would happen if IBM use linux instead of window?
265 2011-04-28 01:49:38 <Kiba> back in the PC war
266 2011-04-28 01:49:47 <luke-jr> &
267 2011-04-28 01:49:53 <Kiba> wait
268 2011-04-28 01:50:00 <Kiba> the PC  war was before the internet?
269 2011-04-28 01:50:39 <gekko_> Is there a way to tell how many BTC clients are on the network?
270 2011-04-28 01:56:08 <sacarlson> gekko_: you can see a minimum number by looking at the irc #bitcoin on ifnet.org  but that won't count system running with -noirc on lans
271 2011-04-28 01:56:55 <gekko_> thanks
272 2011-04-28 01:59:20 <sacarlson> Kiba:  they had os9 back then that I guess was linux or was unix before dos came out but I could be wrong that was already in the 80's
273 2011-04-28 02:01:16 <[Tycho]> Modern PC cases are way too small :(
274 2011-04-28 02:01:33 <[Tycho]> Most of them only allow 265-285 mm cards
275 2011-04-28 02:01:46 <[Tycho]> Rarely they allow 5970's 310
276 2011-04-28 02:09:49 <sacarlson> if anyone can enlighten me on the user interface needed to setup a simple escrow with bitcoin I'm ready to listen
277 2011-04-28 02:10:07 <luke-jr> JSON-RPC
278 2011-04-28 02:10:08 <sacarlson> a p2p escrow not to a site
279 2011-04-28 02:10:10 <luke-jr> see wiki
280 2011-04-28 02:10:19 <luke-jr> p2p escrow is impossible
281 2011-04-28 02:10:36 <sacarlson> luke-jr that's not what I saw in an article I was reading using scripts
282 2011-04-28 02:10:46 <luke-jr> sacarlson: the article was wrong then
283 2011-04-28 02:11:02 <sacarlson> luke-jr then I will have to devise my own
284 2011-04-28 02:11:28 <nanotube> i think most script has been disabled for security reasons
285 2011-04-28 02:11:59 <sacarlson> nanotube: I've enabled them on my vision with an added config to turn it on and off
286 2011-04-28 02:12:03 <noagendamarket> just use clearcoin
287 2011-04-28 02:12:11 <noagendamarket> now if gavin only had an api
288 2011-04-28 02:12:13 <noagendamarket> ....
289 2011-04-28 02:12:28 <sacarlson> noagendamarket: how can I use clearcoin to escrow weeds?
290 2011-04-28 02:12:37 <noagendamarket> lol
291 2011-04-28 02:12:49 <noagendamarket> ask gavin how he seti it up
292 2011-04-28 02:13:13 <sacarlson> noagendamarket: ok will do but sounds like he's busy,  he has given me alot already
293 2011-04-28 02:13:24 <noagendamarket> the cia shoulda paid in bitcoinffs
294 2011-04-28 02:23:16 <Vladimir> someone got seriously spooked by CIA thing, according to mtgox
295 2011-04-28 02:26:11 <nanotube> Vladimir: hehe yep. 20kbtc selloff... very niteresting :)
296 2011-04-28 02:26:15 <nanotube> good chance to buy more :)
297 2011-04-28 02:27:20 <noagendamarket> wow back to 1.9
298 2011-04-28 02:27:39 <purplezky> you can't keep a good coin down ;)
299 2011-04-28 02:28:13 <Vladimir> interestingly, unless I am mistaken that 20k were taken from higher asks and dumped to the bids
300 2011-04-28 02:28:27 <tcoppi> looks like it
301 2011-04-28 02:29:16 <purplezky> and some were set deliberatly at 1 BTC
302 2011-04-28 02:29:44 <purplezky> bots really are starting to use market manipulation tactics
303 2011-04-28 02:30:33 <nanotube> Vladimir: yep it does look like the asks slimmed down a bit.
304 2011-04-28 02:30:56 <purplezky> consuming these 1 BTC marker asks probably triggers different behaviour levels
305 2011-04-28 02:45:08 <luke-jr> where is jgarzik these days?
306 2011-04-28 02:48:34 <nanotube> on vacation, last i heard, luke-jr
307 2011-04-28 02:48:52 <Androgynous> luke-jr: you here? o3o
308 2011-04-28 02:49:04 <luke-jr> nanotube: ah
309 2011-04-28 02:49:10 <luke-jr> Androgynous: half
310 2011-04-28 02:49:14 <Androgynous> ah
311 2011-04-28 02:49:23 <Androgynous> well, you used GUI miner before?
312 2011-04-28 02:49:29 <Androgynous> cause my shares accepted
313 2011-04-28 02:49:31 <Androgynous> stopped showing up
314 2011-04-28 02:58:06 <Androgynous> luke-jr: I got it to show again... but it is still 0, how much on your end, if I can bug ya.
315 2011-04-28 02:58:26 <luke-jr> never used
316 2011-04-28 02:58:39 <luke-jr> still 1
317 2011-04-28 02:58:50 <Androgynous> any idea why my end isn't updating?
318 2011-04-28 02:58:51 <Androgynous> 3:
319 2011-04-28 03:01:20 <Kiba> somebody on HN hates the fact that bitcoin is receiving coverage constantly from hacker news
320 2011-04-28 03:01:49 <Androgynous> somebody on HN hates that bitcoin is getting coverage on HN
321 2011-04-28 03:01:50 <Androgynous> XD
322 2011-04-28 03:02:08 <Androgynous> know why?
323 2011-04-28 03:02:54 <noagendamarket> the usual
324 2011-04-28 03:03:03 <noagendamarket> its probably mr vegetable
325 2011-04-28 03:05:03 <Kiba> Androgynous: he was not very enthausastic about bitcoin
326 2011-04-28 03:05:18 <Androgynous> :P
327 2011-04-28 03:05:25 <Kiba> so he's rationalizing his hatred/unenthausim about bitcoin
328 2011-04-28 03:05:54 <Androgynous> so he's butthurt?
329 2011-04-28 03:06:23 <Kiba> Androgynous: don't know what's going on in his mind
330 2011-04-28 03:06:26 <Kiba> just a guess
331 2011-04-28 03:13:02 <sacarlson> I think I have a stupid idea of an escrow interface method:  bitcoind sendtoaddressescrowed <bitcoinaddress> <amount> <key>[comment] [comment-to];  and bitcoind unlockescrow <txnumber> <key>
332 2011-04-28 03:13:56 <sacarlson> I guess the unlock would have to be run on the reciever side that he get's the key from the sender when the sender is happy
333 2011-04-28 03:14:16 <d03boy> why not just use an escrow service like usual?
334 2011-04-28 03:14:49 <sacarlson> d03boy: because they won't work with weeds and that would require trust of the third party
335 2011-04-28 03:15:06 <d03boy> what's a weed
336 2011-04-28 03:15:22 <sacarlson> d03boy: weeds is the beginning of the new market order
337 2011-04-28 03:15:49 <sacarlson> were you can exange more than just money
338 2011-04-28 03:16:06 <d03boy> turtle shells?
339 2011-04-28 03:16:29 <sacarlson> d03boy: not sure what those are
340 2011-04-28 03:16:57 <sacarlson> d03boy: sure if there is a demand of turtle shells you should be able to trade them
341 2011-04-28 04:06:13 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":1.98,"low":1.66,"vol":60439,"buy":1.751,"sell":1.7817,"last":1.7818}}
342 2011-04-28 04:06:13 <JFK911> ;;bc,mtgox
343 2011-04-28 04:38:36 <pirrr> Hi, I am seeing 100 connections. Yesterday (before reboot, after the client was on for 8 days) there were 18. Does it not pick up new connections?
344 2011-04-28 04:56:42 <pirrr> WOW that was a price drop @ mtgox
345 2011-04-28 04:57:08 <pirrr> Bid
346 2011-04-28 04:58:29 <ersi> Oh? Wasn't most of the bidders in the 1.5-1.6 range yesterday?
347 2011-04-28 04:58:46 <ersi> Sure, 'last price' was up at 1.9.. but that doesn't say much
348 2011-04-28 05:03:06 <semarjt> I wonder if the bitcoin p2p/web of trust model could be extended to the world of signed ssl certs.
349 2011-04-28 05:09:16 <pirrr> still anonymous? :P
350 2011-04-28 05:09:45 <gjs278> I can't get my board to post with a 5870 and 5970
351 2011-04-28 05:09:46 <gjs278> wat do
352 2011-04-28 05:10:00 <gjs278> I take out the 58 and the 59 works fine
353 2011-04-28 05:10:03 <gjs278> I take out the 59, the 58 works fine
354 2011-04-28 05:22:45 <LightRider> Would there be any benefit to an x64 client?
355 2011-04-28 05:24:37 <gjs278> for what
356 2011-04-28 05:24:38 <gjs278> bitcoin
357 2011-04-28 05:25:20 <gjs278> the obvious reason you want architecture same as your os is so you don't have to keep around 32bit libraries
358 2011-04-28 05:25:43 <JFK911> but on windows you have to anyway
359 2011-04-28 05:38:53 <semarjt> err, so if i set up a new bitcoind server, and then send a tx to it, it wont show up in listransactions until the daemon has caught up with the blocks?
360 2011-04-28 05:39:00 <semarjt> i hope?
361 2011-04-28 05:51:32 <LightRider> I'm talking about computational ability. Would 64bit code increase hashing rate.
362 2011-04-28 06:07:33 <edcba> yes it does
363 2011-04-28 06:25:19 <taco_the_paco> GreenEYEDgirl hai
364 2011-04-28 06:26:21 <lfm> taco_the_paco: rong chan
365 2011-04-28 06:27:02 <taco_the_paco> sorry about that, lfm
366 2011-04-28 06:27:10 <lfm> np
367 2011-04-28 06:27:16 <taco_the_paco> forgot xchat is bleh and when it amsgs it it does it on every server
368 2011-04-28 07:26:49 <doublec> ;;mtgox
369 2011-04-28 07:26:49 <gribble> Error: "mtgox" is not a valid command.
370 2011-04-28 07:26:56 <doublec> ;;bc,mtgox
371 2011-04-28 07:26:56 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":1.98,"low":1.66,"vol":64439,"buy":1.7601,"sell":1.85,"last":1.84}}
372 2011-04-28 08:00:23 <johnlockwood> ;;bc,mtgox
373 2011-04-28 08:00:25 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":1.98,"low":1.66,"vol":65021,"buy":1.8001,"sell":1.832,"last":1.829}}
374 2011-04-28 08:01:03 <BlueMatt> new all-time high :)
375 2011-04-28 08:01:44 <johnlockwood> making ?? while I sleep
376 2011-04-28 08:01:49 <johnlockwood> :)
377 2011-04-28 08:40:07 <subpar> morning - anyone around ?
378 2011-04-28 08:43:12 <subpar> I can confirm the same issue of running bitcoind not working properly - had to add -daemon to have it work
379 2011-04-28 08:43:46 <BlueMatt> subpar: conscious change
380 2011-04-28 08:43:46 <MartianW> subpar, I'm around, but I'm not a dev.
381 2011-04-28 08:44:03 <BlueMatt> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/d12ea887bcf1eab4b029007c4bf5821992c0c6b1
382 2011-04-28 08:44:31 <subpar> BlueMatt: ok - someone in -otc said there were people doubting this was a real issue
383 2011-04-28 08:44:40 <subpar> just wnated to chime in was all
384 2011-04-28 08:44:54 <subpar> I'll watch for a new tarball
385 2011-04-28 08:45:11 <BlueMatt> the change was made on purpose
386 2011-04-28 08:45:36 <subpar> so even running bitcoind you need to add -daemon
387 2011-04-28 08:45:41 <BlueMatt> not really sure why myself, but it was made on purpose
388 2011-04-28 08:45:44 <BlueMatt> yes
389 2011-04-28 08:45:44 <Diablo-D3> http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/brun/pubs/pubs/Kiddon11.pdf
390 2011-04-28 08:46:07 <subpar> then why include bitcoind ?
391 2011-04-28 08:46:19 <ersi> Diablo-D3: l o l
392 2011-04-28 08:46:30 <subpar> thks BlueMatt
393 2011-04-28 08:49:22 <doublec> even the developer who committed the change seems to be unaware it was on purpose
394 2011-04-28 08:51:32 <BlueMatt> subpar: because it doesnt require wx or x
395 2011-04-28 08:51:47 <BlueMatt> honestly, Id rather it daemonize automatically, but its not a big deal
396 2011-04-28 08:52:05 <BlueMatt> doublec: well, Im sure he just forgot
397 2011-04-28 08:52:23 <BlueMatt> you could look through the chan logs, but Im too lazy
398 2011-04-28 08:53:42 <BlueMatt> devrandom: ping
399 2011-04-28 08:54:48 <rly> What changed between .19 and .21?
400 2011-04-28 08:55:13 <BlueMatt> +upnp, +support for nums <0.01, +dns seed, +a ton of fixes
401 2011-04-28 09:26:37 <topi`> i'm testing out lukejr's jsonrpc ServiceProxy class
402 2011-04-28 09:27:03 <topi`> oddly, my 0.00 paytxfee gets displayed as Decimal('0E-8')
403 2011-04-28 09:27:52 <JFK911> sounds like a good zero to me
404 2011-04-28 09:27:55 <Diablo-D3> because floats are fags.
405 2011-04-28 09:28:25 <topi`> JFK911: it *is* zero, but one needs to think of the correct representation to non-geeks :)
406 2011-04-28 09:30:18 <da2ce7> ;;bc,stats
407 2011-04-28 09:30:20 <gribble> Current Blocks: 120645 | Current Difficulty: 92347.59095209 | Next Difficulty At Block: 120959 | Next Difficulty In: 314 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 18 hours, 23 minutes, and 24 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 107517.69288539
408 2011-04-28 09:30:41 <da2ce7> ;;gend 1000000 107517
409 2011-04-28 09:30:41 <gribble> Error: "gend" is not a valid command.
410 2011-04-28 09:30:50 <da2ce7> ;;bc,gend 1000000 107517
411 2011-04-28 09:30:50 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 1000000 Khps, given the supplied difficulty of 107517, is 9.35506366979 BTC per day and 0.389794319575 BTC per hour.
412 2011-04-28 09:31:06 <da2ce7> ;;bc,gend 1000000 200000
413 2011-04-28 09:31:06 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 1000000 Khps, given the supplied difficulty of 200000, is 5.02914190292 BTC per day and 0.209547579288 BTC per hour.
414 2011-04-28 09:31:25 <BlueMatt> please do that in privmsg with gribble unless it is for public examination
415 2011-04-28 09:31:39 <da2ce7> k
416 2011-04-28 09:31:59 <BlueMatt> thanks
417 2011-04-28 09:47:11 <topi`> shit. I just realized that if we just *could* render banks obsolete, there would be no hindrance in creating networks of different money systems
418 2011-04-28 09:47:23 <topi`> as long as they're based on open technology like the bitcoin.
419 2011-04-28 09:47:45 <topi`> the networks themselves would negotiate the exchange rates and put the funds flowing around optimally.
420 2011-04-28 09:48:00 <topi`> this also means that bitcoin does not have to be the only network around.
421 2011-04-28 09:48:05 <MartianW> topi`, why would banks be obsolete?
422 2011-04-28 09:48:13 <mtrlt> the rendering process could prove very difficult :P
423 2011-04-28 09:48:19 <topi`> MartianW: if nobody would need them any longer?
424 2011-04-28 09:48:28 <MartianW> Considering the bandwidth needed most users will probably have a server manage their wallet for them.
425 2011-04-28 09:48:31 <MartianW> With an account for them.
426 2011-04-28 09:48:31 <topi`> mtrlt: I know, but it's just a wish from an old anarchist.
427 2011-04-28 09:48:37 <MartianW> Like MyBitcoin.
428 2011-04-28 09:48:44 <mtrlt> and i agree with MartianW.
429 2011-04-28 09:48:55 <topi`> MyBitcoin is just as centralized as banks.
430 2011-04-28 09:49:04 <mtrlt> no shit, it's a bitcoin bank :P
431 2011-04-28 09:49:16 <Diablo-D3> A BANK! BURN IT! ITS A WITCH!
432 2011-04-28 09:49:16 <topi`> except that with bitcoin, you need nobody's legal charter to start banking.
433 2011-04-28 09:49:17 <rly> topi`: how does anarchism cope with gangs deciding to burn down your house?
434 2011-04-28 09:49:46 <noagendamarket> witcoin is also a bank :)-
435 2011-04-28 09:49:51 <mtrlt> rly: he forms his own gang. then the gangs merge until there are countries :P
436 2011-04-28 09:50:00 <topi`> rly: well, christiania (in copenhagen) is pretty anarchistic, and they've managed without gangs burning their houses
437 2011-04-28 09:50:02 <rly> mtrlt: exactly.
438 2011-04-28 09:50:06 <noagendamarket> a knowledge bank...
439 2011-04-28 09:50:36 <rly> topi`: isn't anarchism a binary thing?
440 2011-04-28 09:50:43 <rly> Either you have it or you don't.
441 2011-04-28 09:50:45 <Diablo-D3> you either burn houses or you dont
442 2011-04-28 09:50:48 <topi`> nope. unless you ask pjotr kropotkin :)
443 2011-04-28 09:51:12 <topi`> rly: I think you're mixing anarchism up with anrachy.
444 2011-04-28 09:51:14 <topi`> anarchy
445 2011-04-28 09:51:33 <Diablo-D3> and now, psg.
446 2011-04-28 09:51:44 <MartianW> How is anarchism different from anarchy? Doesn't the 'ism' suffix just transform anarchy to a school of thought?
447 2011-04-28 09:51:54 <topi`> it does.
448 2011-04-28 09:52:04 <Diablo-D3> yes, and anarchy involves no thought
449 2011-04-28 09:52:10 <Diablo-D3> ergo your shits fuck, go troll elsewhere
450 2011-04-28 09:52:11 <topi`> :)
451 2011-04-28 09:52:44 <MartianW> Diablo-D3, ?
452 2011-04-28 09:53:49 <Diablo-D3> thats right, I just called politics trolling
453 2011-04-28 09:54:46 <topi`> well, the similarities between politicians and trolls are pretty evident, aren't they
454 2011-04-28 09:55:12 <MartianW> Both use irrationality to stir strong emotions, but for different ends.
455 2011-04-28 09:55:12 <rly> Anarchists have the image of just destroying office space.
456 2011-04-28 09:55:29 <Diablo-D3> for the profit, or for the lulz
457 2011-04-28 09:55:32 <Diablo-D3> whats the fifference
458 2011-04-28 09:55:40 <rly> They shit everywhere and move to other places, like parasites.
459 2011-04-28 09:56:03 <Diablo-D3> rly: so its anonymous?
460 2011-04-28 09:56:09 <MartianW> Diablo-D3, one aims to get people to agree with you and hate the opposition. The other wants people to not band together.
461 2011-04-28 09:56:32 <Diablo-D3> MartianW: you just described trolling twice
462 2011-04-28 09:56:40 <rly> Diablo-D3: I don't see what is anonymous about being in a physical location for an extended period of time.
463 2011-04-28 09:57:00 <MartianW> Diablo-D3, trolls don't attempt to create a group of people agreeing with each other?
464 2011-04-28 09:57:06 <noagendamarket> Diablo-D3 whats your opinion on gavin  meeting the cia ?
465 2011-04-28 09:57:24 <Diablo-D3> MartianW: yes they do... then they turn them into the feds for being a cult
466 2011-04-28 09:57:31 <rly> Diablo-D3 would love to meet Gavin.
467 2011-04-28 09:57:34 <rly> Oops
468 2011-04-28 09:57:37 <noagendamarket> lol
469 2011-04-28 09:57:45 <Diablo-D3> noagendamarket: so what
470 2011-04-28 09:57:49 <Diablo-D3> boo hoo the cia
471 2011-04-28 09:57:55 <Diablo-D3> big deal
472 2011-04-28 09:57:55 <rly> (that is a joke) ;)
473 2011-04-28 09:58:31 <rly> The CIA only has some cruise missiles under their control to destroy you whenever they want.
474 2011-04-28 09:58:46 <MartianW> Considering the CIA's massive success against wikileaks I doubt they'll be able to do much against bitcoin.
475 2011-04-28 09:58:53 <noagendamarket> haha
476 2011-04-28 09:58:58 <Diablo-D3> they couldnt even take down 4chan
477 2011-04-28 09:59:14 <rly> How much have you actually read on wikileaks?
478 2011-04-28 09:59:20 <noagendamarket> they just want to know wtf silk roads addres is so they can sell coke on there
479 2011-04-28 09:59:33 <Diablo-D3> rly: I dont have to, fox news and nyt are forced to write pieces against it
480 2011-04-28 09:59:42 <rly> Diablo-D3: forced?
481 2011-04-28 09:59:45 <Diablo-D3> <wikileaks> bush imprissioned innocents
482 2011-04-28 09:59:57 <Diablo-D3> <fox news and nyt> wikileaks supports freeing known terrorists
483 2011-04-28 10:00:00 <Diablo-D3> it all works out in the end
484 2011-04-28 10:00:08 <noagendamarket> heh
485 2011-04-28 10:00:18 <rly> heh
486 2011-04-28 10:00:25 <topi`> it took really long to get confirmation for my transaction. I tx'ed it at 13:37 and the 1st confirmation arrived at 13:59, hence 22 minutes later
487 2011-04-28 10:00:32 <noagendamarket> its akin to meeting with a criminal organisation imo
488 2011-04-28 10:00:47 <topi`> I'll calculate a probability for not solving a new block for 22 minutes instead of the expected 10
489 2011-04-28 10:00:54 <MartianW> topi`, it probably didn't get into the first block produced after you sent it out?
490 2011-04-28 10:00:57 <noagendamarket> like the neighbourhood mafia
491 2011-04-28 10:01:22 <topi`> MartianW: should have, it had plenty of time to propagate. it appeared quite immediately on my server 2000km away.
492 2011-04-28 10:01:31 <x5x> topi`, that doesn't sound that unlikely
493 2011-04-28 10:04:27 <topi`> shit, my statistics has gotten a bit rusty
494 2011-04-28 10:04:48 <topi`> I tried to use chi-square statistics for determining the possibility
495 2011-04-28 10:12:28 <topi`> damn. Once again, I got a 'fee' of 0.01 to my transaction, although I used luke's py-jsonrpc
496 2011-04-28 10:12:33 <topi`> what is it that I'm doing wrong?
497 2011-04-28 10:13:06 <topi`> {u'fee': Decimal('-0.01000000'), u'txid': u'503ed31abe618f9e3938940319d52b89033543030443c0948ef861b5fcbbb01e', u'amount': Decimal('-0.01000000'), u'confirmations': 0
498 2011-04-28 10:13:17 <topi`> says account.gettransaction(x)
499 2011-04-28 10:13:55 <topi`> what I did, was simply:
500 2011-04-28 10:13:56 <topi`> >>> acc.sendfrom('temporary','12tTZtjimWJb2hDbmWL9GTiiQtx6Dr67ae',0.01)
501 2011-04-28 10:19:10 <rly> Freetown Christiania is hilariously small, btw. (0.34 square kilometer)
502 2011-04-28 10:20:54 <luke-jr> topi`: bitcoinrpc is by jgarzik, not I
503 2011-04-28 10:22:48 <rly> "Christiania is thus one of the greatest tourist attractions in Copenhagen, and abroad it is a well-known "brand" for the progressive and liberated Danish lifestyle. Many Danish businesses and organizations also use Christiania as a show place for their foreign friends and guests. The purpose is to show something Danish that cannot be found anywhere else in the world."
504 2011-04-28 10:22:57 <rly> Yeah, that sounds like true anarchism. LOL
505 2011-04-28 10:23:04 <rly> It is just another business model.
506 2011-04-28 10:23:35 <rly> (nothing wrong with that, just calling it an example of anarchism is hilarious)
507 2011-04-28 10:36:45 <bencoder> rly: how so? I see nothing incompatible with anarchism in that
508 2011-04-28 10:36:59 <rly> bencoder: they are more like a zoo now.
509 2011-04-28 10:37:13 <rly> Look a monkey vs Look an anarchist with long hair.
510 2011-04-28 10:37:36 <rly> In Somalia their is sort of anarchism now.
511 2011-04-28 10:37:39 <rly> there*
512 2011-04-28 10:38:26 <rly> But because of a difference in power between them and the rest of the world it is basically getting destroyed by other nations/companies.
513 2011-04-28 10:38:41 <noagendamarket> anarchism = bitcoin
514 2011-04-28 10:38:49 <noagendamarket> thats how we roll
515 2011-04-28 10:38:57 <rly> noagendamarket: except you still have to pay taxes.
516 2011-04-28 10:39:12 <rly> noagendamarket: which you have to do in government issued credit notes.
517 2011-04-28 10:39:13 <noagendamarket> what taxes are those ?
518 2011-04-28 10:39:25 <rly> noagendamarket: are you saying you live somewhere without taxes?
519 2011-04-28 10:39:41 <noagendamarket> wtf read what I wrote
520 2011-04-28 10:39:43 <rly> noagendamarket: taxes on water for example.
521 2011-04-28 10:40:00 <rly> noagendamarket: taxes on owning property.
522 2011-04-28 10:40:06 <noagendamarket> bitcoin is a living example of anarchism
523 2011-04-28 10:40:32 <rly> noagendamarket: you already said that.
524 2011-04-28 10:40:48 <rly> noagendamarket: you ask what taxes are those. I told you and then there is no response.
525 2011-04-28 10:40:53 <noagendamarket> whatever
526 2011-04-28 10:41:10 <noagendamarket> the bitcoin client doesnt tax me lol
527 2011-04-28 10:41:25 <ersi> neither does your money
528 2011-04-28 10:41:36 <ersi> as in bills and/or other currencies in bank accounts
529 2011-04-28 10:41:46 <rly> noagendamarket: uhm, you are not entirely a source of great wisdom now.
530 2011-04-28 10:41:52 <rly> ersi: that is false.
531 2011-04-28 10:42:09 <ersi> Hm.
532 2011-04-28 10:42:31 <ersi> Well, perhaps if you count banks/goverments regulation of said currencies
533 2011-04-28 10:42:56 <rly> noagendamarket: I am a troll when you ask questions and then just say 'whatever'?
534 2011-04-28 10:43:19 <ersi> But the numbers in your bank account, or slips of paper and lumps of coins doesn't tax itself. Not without intervention
535 2011-04-28 10:43:46 <rly> ersi: your point being?
536 2011-04-28 10:44:16 <rly> ersi: if you do not pay up, you will get the military at your door ultimately. Do you have your own private army?
537 2011-04-28 10:44:17 <topi`> luke-jr: I see, i'll look at jgarzik's code
538 2011-04-28 10:44:24 <ersi> That neither form does it automatically. It's still something you have to manually/intervene
539 2011-04-28 10:44:35 <topi`> rly: Christiania is anarchistic in the sense that the local police won't intervene in their affairs
540 2011-04-28 10:44:53 <noagendamarket> rly we already know the deal
541 2011-04-28 10:44:55 <rly> topi`: what if they start building advanced weaponry?
542 2011-04-28 10:44:56 <topi`> an exception was an incident in 2004 where some motorbike gangs had a firefight
543 2011-04-28 10:45:10 <rly> topi`: see? No self-determination.
544 2011-04-28 10:45:22 <rly> That is not anarchism, that is a zoo.
545 2011-04-28 10:45:24 <da2ce7> rly is a fat troll under the fiat bridge.
546 2011-04-28 10:45:26 <topi`> I've been in Christiania, and talked to the people living there. they're basically squats, haven't paid anything for the land.
547 2011-04-28 10:45:28 <da2ce7> :O
548 2011-04-28 10:45:29 <noagendamarket> lol
549 2011-04-28 10:45:35 <topi`> lol :D
550 2011-04-28 10:46:10 <rly> What happens if one moves there?
551 2011-04-28 10:46:20 <rly> Do you just have to kill someone and take space? ;)
552 2011-04-28 10:46:25 <noagendamarket> they live with you under a bridge
553 2011-04-28 10:46:32 <da2ce7> lol
554 2011-04-28 10:46:47 <noagendamarket> and they trolololo
555 2011-04-28 10:46:59 <ersi> Hah
556 2011-04-28 10:47:02 <rly> I prefer not to hang around in shit.
557 2011-04-28 10:47:42 <da2ce7> any aussies want to buy $1000 of BTC
558 2011-04-28 10:47:43 <rly> That would be fun. Invite all the major owners of office space to go there and put shit on all their 'houses'.
559 2011-04-28 10:47:52 <noagendamarket> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0    is anarchy
560 2011-04-28 10:49:01 <da2ce7> lawl.
561 2011-04-28 10:50:11 <Diablo-D3> yeah, drug niggers flippin out, quite the anarchy there isnt it
562 2011-04-28 10:50:21 <Diablo-D3> er, dunk
563 2011-04-28 10:50:24 <Diablo-D3> *drunk.
564 2011-04-28 10:50:28 <Diablo-D3> Im so angry I cant even type.
565 2011-04-28 10:50:30 <Diablo-D3> Good job, asshole
566 2011-04-28 10:51:22 <rly> How many BTC would noagendamarket's home address be worth?
567 2011-04-28 10:51:24 <da2ce7> Diablo-D3, http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Margaret_Thatcher
568 2011-04-28 10:51:50 <Diablo-D3> yes, god forbid we lose a wonderful article like that
569 2011-04-28 10:52:24 <noagendamarket> rly nothing
570 2011-04-28 10:53:40 <da2ce7> sexy: http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/File:Bbw.jpg
571 2011-04-28 10:53:47 <da2ce7> I'd give here bitcoins.
572 2011-04-28 10:54:04 <JFK911> damn miner says he found a block but it doesnt show in the client :(
573 2011-04-28 10:54:23 <da2ce7> JFK911, it takes 2 confimations to show up
574 2011-04-28 10:54:46 <da2ce7> but annother miner might have found a block at the same time, and 'wins the race'
575 2011-04-28 10:54:55 <da2ce7> that means you are super unlucky
576 2011-04-28 10:55:15 <JFK911> da2ce7: ... 0/unconfirmed would show up.
577 2011-04-28 10:55:32 <da2ce7> hmm, not for block, for transcations yes.
578 2011-04-28 10:55:35 <JFK911> it also said: accepted
579 2011-04-28 10:55:48 <da2ce7> at least it didn't used to.
580 2011-04-28 10:55:50 <JFK911> i'll look at block history in a few mins.
581 2011-04-28 10:56:05 <JFK911> ive seen it for gens, also "matures in 120 more blocks"
582 2011-04-28 10:56:09 <ArtForz> JFK911: if you got no clue, stfu
583 2011-04-28 10:56:21 <ArtForz> gens only show up at 2 confirms
584 2011-04-28 10:57:13 <ArtForz> otherwise people would go WTF when their block lost a race and goes from 1 back to 0 (and stays there forever)
585 2011-04-28 10:57:20 <JFK911> p sure i remember seeing those lines before, but also i think you mined more than me
586 2011-04-28 10:58:04 <ArtForz> and why 2? as generations live in blocks, the one from a newly found block is already at 1
587 2011-04-28 10:58:23 <ArtForz> so if the next block builds on it, it goes to 2 and shows up
588 2011-04-28 10:58:46 <JFK911> kick your creation and find a couple blocks please, art
589 2011-04-28 10:58:50 <ArtForz> if the next block is built on a concurrent block at the same height, it juts goes to 0 and gets forgotten
590 2011-04-28 10:59:16 <ArtForz> well, not really fogotten, it will just sit in wallet forever
591 2011-04-28 11:00:57 <ArtForz> I'd be fine with changing the gui to show em as soon as they're found, but I bet my ass then we'll get dozens of "wahhh, my generation went from 1 to 0 and never gets confirmed"
592 2011-04-28 11:01:56 <bencoder> ersi: you could say that your money does tax you automatically, when they print more of it.
593 2011-04-28 11:03:25 <JFK911> i just need tcp for 8333, right?
594 2011-04-28 11:03:58 <ArtForz> yup
595 2011-04-28 11:04:10 <JFK911> danke
596 2011-04-28 11:04:51 <ersi> bencoder: yeah
597 2011-04-28 11:05:14 <ArtForz> JFK911: sorry for the strong language, I just hate people spreading misinformation on -dev
598 2011-04-28 11:05:33 <JFK911> well, i seriously misremembered :)
599 2011-04-28 11:05:57 <JFK911> never had an 'accepted' not show up
600 2011-04-28 11:06:37 <JFK911> does the client save the coin immediately?  what if he crashes before it's confirmed?
601 2011-04-28 11:07:08 <ArtForz> it saves it immediately
602 2011-04-28 11:07:08 <Diablo-D3> before whats confirmed?
603 2011-04-28 11:07:22 <ArtForz> generations
604 2011-04-28 11:07:29 <Diablo-D3> its probably already too late at that point
605 2011-04-28 11:07:31 <ArtForz> they just arent shown in the gui until at least 1 block is on top
606 2011-04-28 11:07:35 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 9448928 Khps, given current difficulty of 92347.59095209 , is 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 36 seconds
607 2011-04-28 11:07:35 <luke-jr> ;;bc,calc 9448928
608 2011-04-28 11:07:36 <Diablo-D3> if your client crashed, someone else beat you to the block
609 2011-04-28 11:07:43 <ArtForz> Diablo-D3: depends
610 2011-04-28 11:07:47 <JFK911> just throwing it out there
611 2011-04-28 11:08:15 <ArtForz> well, actually until they're at least 1 deep into the main chain
612 2011-04-28 11:08:34 <WakiMiko> sometimes they show up right away with 0 confirmations
613 2011-04-28 11:08:37 <WakiMiko> sometimes tehy dont
614 2011-04-28 11:08:42 <WakiMiko> on testnet that is
615 2011-04-28 11:08:46 <ArtForz> genrations? no
616 2011-04-28 11:08:52 <WakiMiko> i think it did for me
617 2011-04-28 11:08:54 <ArtForz> they shouldnt
618 2011-04-28 11:08:59 <ArtForz> if they do, thats a bug
619 2011-04-28 11:09:00 <WakiMiko> using an external miner
620 2011-04-28 11:09:20 <ArtForz> normal tx can and do show up at 0/unconfirmed
621 2011-04-28 11:09:20 <WakiMiko> hmm im not sure
622 2011-04-28 11:09:45 <WakiMiko> gonna test it but my hardware sucks so it will take some time even on testnet ;_;
623 2011-04-28 11:10:01 <ArtForz> it's certainly possible, the gui tx list is a bit... special
624 2011-04-28 11:10:31 <ArtForz> yeah, as in "special needs" special ;)
625 2011-04-28 11:10:36 <JFK911> haha
626 2011-04-28 11:10:37 <JFK911> okay
627 2011-04-28 11:10:47 <JFK911> when the blocks turned from 102651 to 102652
628 2011-04-28 11:10:47 <WakiMiko> is the only difference between the all transactions and send/received tabs that the former lists generations?
629 2011-04-28 11:10:48 <JFK911> it didnt show
630 2011-04-28 11:10:53 <JFK911> but i restarted the client and it's there
631 2011-04-28 11:11:13 <ArtForz> yep, thats what I mean with tx list being special
632 2011-04-28 11:11:24 <ArtForz> sometimes tx just don't show up at all
633 2011-04-28 11:12:03 <ArtForz> forcing it to refresh fixes it
634 2011-04-28 11:12:13 <JFK911> okay!  So, explain me how this works.  poclbm can say 'accepted' or 'rejected.'  when bitcoin returns him whatever negative status, what happened?  calculations for verification failed?  or network didn't accept?
635 2011-04-28 11:12:16 <luke-jr> ArtForz: sure you don't want to boost my pool a bit for fun? :P
636 2011-04-28 11:12:22 <ArtForz> luke-jr: nah
637 2011-04-28 11:12:35 <ArtForz> I prefer local mining, less points of failure
638 2011-04-28 11:12:37 <ArtForz> fewer
639 2011-04-28 11:16:09 <da2ce7> can I please have a dump of the wiki :)
640 2011-04-28 11:36:48 <appamatto> ;;bc,mtgox
641 2011-04-28 11:36:49 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":1.98,"low":1.66,"vol":71528,"buy":1.875,"sell":1.9478,"last":1.934}}
642 2011-04-28 11:36:55 <appamatto> Holy crap
643 2011-04-28 11:39:55 <edcba> damn i should have invested 1000??? in bitcoins
644 2011-04-28 11:40:21 <mtrlt> hehe
645 2011-04-28 11:40:33 <mtrlt> i did :-P but too late and bought at 1.5 or something
646 2011-04-28 11:40:42 <nanotube> https://dump.bitcoin.it/ da2ce7
647 2011-04-28 11:40:43 <noagendamarket> its not too late
648 2011-04-28 11:41:03 <da2ce7> thankyou
649 2011-04-28 11:41:06 <mtrlt> maybe, but i am a pessimist by nature :P
650 2011-04-28 11:44:52 <da2ce7> ey, nanotube those don't seem like to be full dumps. All they contain is one xml file.
651 2011-04-28 12:21:24 <BlueMatt> devrandom: left you a bunch of gribble msgs about this process, I think we are getting really close here.
652 2011-04-28 12:33:10 <nanotube> da2ce7: dunno, that's all i see. ask magicaltux when he's around.
653 2011-04-28 12:39:05 <ersi> da2ce7: Want a dump of bitcoin.it?
654 2011-04-28 12:39:11 <da2ce7> yep
655 2011-04-28 12:39:23 <ersi> I got a MediaWiki-dumper.py script laying right here
656 2011-04-28 12:40:14 <ersi> Dumping..
657 2011-04-28 12:41:58 <ersi> It's gonna take a little while. There's... a few pages. :)
658 2011-04-28 12:42:34 <devrandom> BlueMatt - did not get the gribble msgs
659 2011-04-28 12:42:47 <devrandom> oh, now I did
660 2011-04-28 12:43:11 <BlueMatt> devrandom: yea, you have to do something on the chan to get them
661 2011-04-28 12:43:18 <jrabbit> http://www.good.is/post/ku-klux-klan-says-it-doesn-t-condone-tea-party-or-koran-burning/
662 2011-04-28 12:43:41 <BlueMatt> jrabbit: ...wtf?
663 2011-04-28 12:44:38 <BlueMatt> since when does the kkk accept other people's ideas?
664 2011-04-28 12:54:37 <pirrr> <gribble> Apr28 14:53:35 mtgox      500.0000 @     1.945      USD
665 2011-04-28 12:58:33 <pirrr> <gribble> Apr28 14:58:21 mtgox    1,000.0000 @     1.95       USD
666 2011-04-28 12:59:51 <pirrr> wow :
667 2011-04-28 12:59:54 <pirrr> wow :D*
668 2011-04-28 12:59:58 <johnlockwood> omg
669 2011-04-28 13:00:47 <edcba> ?
670 2011-04-28 13:00:52 <edcba> 1M what ?
671 2011-04-28 13:00:56 <pirrr> noo
672 2011-04-28 13:00:57 <pirrr> not 1m
673 2011-04-28 13:00:58 <pirrr> 1k
674 2011-04-28 13:01:02 <edcba> oh
675 2011-04-28 13:01:06 <edcba> ok
676 2011-04-28 13:01:09 <johnlockwood> lol
677 2011-04-28 13:01:12 <edcba> not that much
678 2011-04-28 13:01:36 <pirrr> but the prices vary much
679 2011-04-28 13:01:42 <pirrr> over 24h
680 2011-04-28 13:02:01 <edcba> as long it goes up it's not a problem lol
681 2011-04-28 13:08:28 <pirrr> <gribble> Apr28 15:08:14 mtgox      793.5640 @     1.98       USD
682 2011-04-28 13:08:30 <pirrr> rise up, rise up
683 2011-04-28 13:10:31 <edcba> maybe i should sell my 10k bitcoins
684 2011-04-28 13:10:48 <mtrlt> do that :)
685 2011-04-28 13:11:06 <zq> do it ^^
686 2011-04-28 13:11:14 <pirrr> <gribble> Apr28 15:10:43 mtgox      562.3460 @     1.9914     USD
687 2011-04-28 13:11:23 <edcba> pb is i don't have 10k bitcoins
688 2011-04-28 13:11:34 <edcba> maybe i should lend some
689 2011-04-28 13:11:58 <zq> I think it would be a good time to short the market soon
690 2011-04-28 13:12:04 <pirrr> only 1200 bitcoins on mtgox for <$2
691 2011-04-28 13:12:12 <mtrlt> if it goes over 2, i think it won't come down in a while
692 2011-04-28 13:12:33 <pirrr> who knows  :P
693 2011-04-28 13:12:45 <edcba> depends on ppl wanting to sell or not
694 2011-04-28 13:13:25 <pirrr> aaaaand we reached $2
695 2011-04-28 13:13:33 <pirrr> Bid
696 2011-04-28 13:14:13 <edcba> yeah !
697 2011-04-28 13:14:24 <edcba> quick let's submit that to /. !
698 2011-04-28 13:14:41 <edcba> to drive up difficulty
699 2011-04-28 13:14:47 <pirrr> where has been no $2 sale yet
700 2011-04-28 13:14:49 <edcba> (and prices :)
701 2011-04-28 13:15:01 <rli> $2 reached !
702 2011-04-28 13:15:12 <edcba> sell ! sell !
703 2011-04-28 13:16:10 <pirrr> <gribble> Apr28 15:16:03 mtgox        2.0000 @     2.00       USD
704 2011-04-28 13:17:06 <pirrr> sell! sell!
705 2011-04-28 13:17:21 <UukGoblin> :->
706 2011-04-28 13:18:11 <johnlockwood> buy
707 2011-04-28 13:24:21 <da2ce7> Freenet Bitcoin: USK@fhPDBxP3nusIatIHk076GYmov05n2zIDlG6L8pySdIs,Q7R9g4ZW7JNE4ouuvbtClAdt2mvZZbIWPIX~DhYiJY8,AQACAAE/Bitcoin/0/
708 2011-04-28 13:25:10 <RenaKunisaki> hmm
709 2011-04-28 13:25:14 <RenaKunisaki> ?
710 2011-04-28 13:25:24 <da2ce7> ah freenet.
711 2011-04-28 13:25:33 <RenaKunisaki> what's the relation between Freenet and Bitcoin here?
712 2011-04-28 13:25:41 <da2ce7> https://freenetproject.org/
713 2011-04-28 13:26:03 <da2ce7> I have made a freesite that cointants bitcoin.
714 2011-04-28 13:26:04 <RenaKunisaki> I'm familiar with it, I'm just wondering what Freenet Bitcoin is
715 2011-04-28 13:26:09 <jaromil> guys: i've just seen a mod of bitcoind exposing an API to python and java. i mean the core C++ - neat. i guess we'll have an interesting branch soon. the presence of genjix in amsterdam is seminal. that guy is an inseminator.
716 2011-04-28 13:26:13 <RenaKunisaki> Bitcoin over Freenet or just a donation system or what
717 2011-04-28 13:26:30 <da2ce7> no this isn't the BtcFn project
718 2011-04-28 13:26:32 <RenaKunisaki> needs more Lua :p
719 2011-04-28 13:26:38 <da2ce7> this is just a mirror
720 2011-04-28 13:29:15 <pirrr> www.mtgox.com down?
721 2011-04-28 13:29:29 <mtrlt> nope
722 2011-04-28 13:29:44 <edcba> no it goes up ! :)
723 2011-04-28 13:29:51 <mtrlt> :P
724 2011-04-28 13:34:49 <pirrr> Will transactions get processed quicker if the network is bigger?
725 2011-04-28 13:35:03 <mtrlt> no because the difficulty will readjust itself
726 2011-04-28 13:37:45 <luke-jr> ;;bc,calc 292000
727 2011-04-28 13:37:46 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 292000 Khps, given current difficulty of 92347.59095209 , is 2 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 18 minutes, and 41 seconds
728 2011-04-28 13:37:58 <luke-jr> ;;bc,calcd 292000 [bc,estimate]
729 2011-04-28 13:37:59 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 292000 Khps, given the supplied difficulty of 107359.12410948, is 2 weeks, 4 days, 6 hours, 38 minutes, and 43 seconds
730 2011-04-28 13:38:03 <luke-jr> hmm
731 2011-04-28 13:38:09 <luke-jr> ;;bc,calcd 265000 [bc,estimate]
732 2011-04-28 13:38:10 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 265000 Khps, given the supplied difficulty of 107359.12410948, is 2 weeks, 6 days, 3 hours, 20 minutes, and 14 seconds
733 2011-04-28 13:46:13 <tcoppi> ;;bc,stats
734 2011-04-28 13:46:15 <gribble> Current Blocks: 120672 | Current Difficulty: 92347.59095209 | Next Difficulty At Block: 120959 | Next Difficulty In: 287 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 14 hours, 44 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 107367.17564121
735 2011-04-28 13:59:18 <kika> Diablo-D3: hey
736 2011-04-28 14:00:29 <kika> Diablo-D3: do you have idea why diablominer is working slower with my pushpool server than using deepbit ? if i connect to deepbit the speed is 200Mhash/s however if i do it on my own pushpool pool its only 20 Mhash/s
737 2011-04-28 14:03:15 <cosurgi> Diablo-D3: I got a question. What is 'target[6]' here? if(G <= currentWork.target[6]) {
738 2011-04-28 14:03:30 <cosurgi> Diablo-D3: I guess it's related to difficulty. but exactly?
739 2011-04-28 14:03:39 <Diablo-D3> cosurgi: G.
740 2011-04-28 14:03:58 <cosurgi> so it's the next 32bits ?
741 2011-04-28 14:03:58 <UukGoblin> it's one of the bytes of the target
742 2011-04-28 14:04:02 <Diablo-D3> kika: dunno, sounds like the pushpool isnt working
743 2011-04-28 14:04:11 <Diablo-D3> cosurgi: yes, its 8 numbers, indexes start from 0.
744 2011-04-28 14:04:18 <kika> Diablo-D3: it connects and works, however its slower
745 2011-04-28 14:04:42 <kika> Diablo-D3: Phenix gives me 150Mhash/s using my pushpool
746 2011-04-28 14:04:43 <kika> *Prohenix
747 2011-04-28 14:04:48 <kika> *Phoenix
748 2011-04-28 14:04:50 <Diablo-D3> kika: yeah, but if the pool doesnt handle concurrent connections correctly, my miner is going to run slowly
749 2011-04-28 14:05:05 <cosurgi> Diablo-D3: so, for slush's pool, where difficulty=1 this check isn't necessary? (I ask not tuo optimize, but to understand)
750 2011-04-28 14:05:26 <kika> Diablo-D3: so you say the pushpool dont handle correctly concurrent connections, ill have to fix the pushpool code right? do you know which miner software deepbit uses?
751 2011-04-28 14:05:35 <cosurgi> Diablo-D3: I mean, when diff=1, only H must be 0, and G can be random.
752 2011-04-28 14:05:43 <Diablo-D3> cosurgi: its technically necessary
753 2011-04-28 14:05:46 <kika> Diablo-D3: the diablominer was the only client connected to the pushpool btw
754 2011-04-28 14:05:57 <cosurgi> Diablo-D3: why?
755 2011-04-28 14:06:03 <sipa_> cosurgi: technically, no
756 2011-04-28 14:06:08 <Diablo-D3> cosurgi: diff 1 technically doesnt mean H == 0
757 2011-04-28 14:06:21 <kika> Diablo-D3: why would it need concurrent connections ? i tought diablominer just issues a getwork command once every x seconds
758 2011-04-28 14:06:23 <sipa_> at difficulty 1, H==0 and G<-0xFFFF0000
759 2011-04-28 14:06:27 <cosurgi> isn't it 00000000FFFFFFFFFFFFF.... ?
760 2011-04-28 14:06:46 <Diablo-D3> kika: because it runs multiple executor threads at the same time
761 2011-04-28 14:06:49 <sipa_> difficulty==1: target==0x00000000FFFF0000000000000...
762 2011-04-28 14:06:58 <cosurgi> oh.
763 2011-04-28 14:07:11 <cosurgi> I thought it's F until the end.
764 2011-04-28 14:07:16 <kika> Diablo-D3: so basically diablominer runs different executor threads and creates a connection on each one of those to pushpoold
765 2011-04-28 14:07:25 <Diablo-D3> kika: yes.
766 2011-04-28 14:07:45 <kika> Diablo-D3: do you know which pool software deebit runs ? or btcminer.com ?
767 2011-04-28 14:07:46 <Diablo-D3> kika: its the only way to make sure that the GPU is always mining
768 2011-04-28 14:07:53 <Diablo-D3> deepbit runs their own
769 2011-04-28 14:07:57 <Diablo-D3> as does slush
770 2011-04-28 14:08:02 <Diablo-D3> they're both closed source
771 2011-04-28 14:08:06 <kika> i see
772 2011-04-28 14:08:14 <kika> so ill need to create a closed source one
773 2011-04-28 14:08:24 <Diablo-D3> or just use mine when its done
774 2011-04-28 14:08:43 <kika> Diablo-D3: ? when pushpool be done?
775 2011-04-28 14:08:55 <Diablo-D3> mine isnt pushpool =P
776 2011-04-28 14:09:10 <kika> Diablo-D3: brb
777 2011-04-28 14:09:28 <kika> whats mine? a pool software?
778 2011-04-28 14:09:47 <Diablo-D3> mine is a noun implying ownership of the speaker
779 2011-04-28 14:10:09 <kika> Diablo-D3: i see can i contribute to yours so get it done faster? when it will be released?
780 2011-04-28 14:10:16 <cosurgi> or is a noun describing a hole in the ground which is full of gold.
781 2011-04-28 14:10:58 <Diablo-D3> cosurgi: yes, but then its also a verb
782 2011-04-28 14:11:04 <cosurgi> :)
783 2011-04-28 14:11:13 <kika> Diablo-D3:  when yours will be done ? can i help you to finish it faster?
784 2011-04-28 14:11:25 <Diablo-D3> it'll be done when its done.
785 2011-04-28 14:11:42 <Diablo-D3> diablo time is worse than valve time.
786 2011-04-28 14:11:45 <kika> Diablo-D3: so you dont have a release date yet i see
787 2011-04-28 14:12:40 <Diablo-D3> release dates exist to be ignored.
788 2011-04-28 14:12:51 <kika> Diablo-D3: so basically diablominer opens many threads and in each thread it requests work via rpc from the pooler, and each threads works on its work, right ?