1 2011-05-03 00:00:05 <Diablo-D3> ntosme2: what driver, what os
  2 2011-05-03 00:01:52 <ntosme2> drivers 10.11, OS Gentoo
  3 2011-05-03 00:02:32 <Diablo-D3> and you're comparing it to what?
  4 2011-05-03 00:04:15 <ntosme2> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/ati-stream-sdk/lib/x86_64
  5 2011-05-03 00:04:29 <ntosme2> comparing a single card running in poclbm
  6 2011-05-03 00:04:48 <Diablo-D3> poclbm WITH bfi_int on?
  7 2011-05-03 00:04:54 <ntosme2> no
  8 2011-05-03 00:05:13 <ntosme2> I get ~140mhash without bfi_int
  9 2011-05-03 00:05:27 <Diablo-D3> hrrm
 10 2011-05-03 00:05:39 <ntosme2> so I'd expect almost 300
 11 2011-05-03 00:05:45 <gjs278> I got 11.3, and 2.1 on my opencl
 12 2011-05-03 00:05:48 <gjs278> what card are you ntosme2
 13 2011-05-03 00:06:00 <ntosme2> 2x 5770
 14 2011-05-03 00:06:04 <Diablo-D3> ntosme2: 150 seems high for a 5770
 15 2011-05-03 00:06:29 <gjs278> no
 16 2011-05-03 00:06:31 <ntosme2> well I'm showing 133652/135059 khash/sec
 17 2011-05-03 00:06:33 <gjs278> 5770 can do higher than 150
 18 2011-05-03 00:06:44 <Diablo-D3> ntosme2: and my miner lists both gpus?
 19 2011-05-03 00:06:49 <ntosme2> yes
 20 2011-05-03 00:06:58 <ntosme2> [5/3/11 5:00:58 AM] Added Juniper (#1) (10 CU, local work size of 64)
 21 2011-05-03 00:07:03 <Diablo-D3> try fiddling with -w 128 or -w 256
 22 2011-05-03 00:07:10 <gjs278> the new new poclbm can do 180 I believe
 23 2011-05-03 00:08:01 <gjs278> my friend has 3 of them going
 24 2011-05-03 00:08:21 <Diablo-D3> thats with bfi_int, gjs278
 25 2011-05-03 00:08:28 <gjs278> yeah
 26 2011-05-03 00:08:33 <ntosme2> Diablo-D3: ah! thank you very much
 27 2011-05-03 00:08:44 <ntosme2> now I'm getting 325mhash
 28 2011-05-03 00:08:55 <gjs278> not using bfi_int is derp with poclbm
 29 2011-05-03 00:09:06 <Diablo-D3> meh, I swear to god Im just going to put -w back to max
 30 2011-05-03 00:09:17 <ntosme2> now to condense this os down to a 1GB flash stick
 31 2011-05-03 00:09:47 <Diablo-D3> I can already imagine the commit message
 32 2011-05-03 00:09:51 <Diablo-D3> "fixing AMD derp forever"
 33 2011-05-03 00:09:52 <ntosme2> Diablo-D3: well at least that wasn't my initial problem, my bios was being retarded
 34 2011-05-03 00:11:07 <ntosme2> this is a good test of my fanless 80+ gold PSU, so far so good
 35 2011-05-03 00:11:34 <ntosme2> it's still barely warm with just convection
 36 2011-05-03 00:11:43 <retinal> I'd be wary if you intend to keep that on 24/7
 37 2011-05-03 00:11:51 <B0g4r7> Efficiency ftw.
 38 2011-05-03 00:12:02 <ntosme2> I've been running it with 1 gpu for ~3 months
 39 2011-05-03 00:12:40 <retinal> I personally wouldn't be worried unless it were at 80%+ load
 40 2011-05-03 00:13:22 <ntosme2> ya it's at ~270W
 41 2011-05-03 00:14:53 <B0g4r7> What's it's load rating?
 42 2011-05-03 00:16:00 <ntosme2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151097   400W
 43 2011-05-03 00:19:06 <B0g4r7> Cool.
 44 2011-05-03 00:19:17 <B0g4r7> I have this one:
 45 2011-05-03 00:19:18 <B0g4r7> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371039
 46 2011-05-03 00:19:23 <B0g4r7> running 2 5970s.
 47 2011-05-03 00:19:25 <B0g4r7> Soon to be 3.
 48 2011-05-03 00:19:46 <B0g4r7> Well, almost that one.  Mine doesn't have the knobs.
 49 2011-05-03 00:20:14 <ntosme2> I guess that's a reasonable power rating for 3
 50 2011-05-03 00:21:15 <ntosme2> I wish people on craigslist were selling 5970s lol, I really don't want to pay retail
 51 2011-05-03 00:22:05 <ntosme2> I've gotten about a 30% discount buying from people locally, also no shipping
 52 2011-05-03 00:22:56 <gjs278> ntosme2 you can get them from hardocp for $400
 53 2011-05-03 00:24:00 <ntosme2> do they have an online store?
 54 2011-05-03 00:24:06 <ntosme2> email sales?
 55 2011-05-03 00:24:50 <gjs278> nah
 56 2011-05-03 00:24:52 <gjs278> forums
 57 2011-05-03 00:24:56 <gjs278> just trading with people
 58 2011-05-03 00:25:01 <ntosme2> ah ok
 59 2011-05-03 00:26:14 <luke-jr> http://paulspontifications.blogspot.com/2011/04/patent-5893120-reduced-to-mathematical.html
 60 2011-05-03 00:27:27 <ntosme2> is $200 reasonable for 5870s?
 61 2011-05-03 00:28:40 <gjs278> sure. I've seen $175 at the lowest
 62 2011-05-03 00:28:47 <gjs278> $200 is a decent price
 63 2011-05-03 00:29:02 <gjs278> they were retail $180 at one point with rebates
 64 2011-05-03 00:29:06 <gjs278> but gl finding them now
 65 2011-05-03 00:29:37 <ntosme2> I see a few on ebay for around that
 66 2011-05-03 00:29:39 <TheKid> ahhhh
 67 2011-05-03 00:29:44 <TheKid> newegg is all ugly all the sudden
 68 2011-05-03 00:29:47 <TheKid> what the fuck
 69 2011-05-03 00:30:01 <ntosme2> looks normal here
 70 2011-05-03 00:30:32 <TheKid> there's two gigantic columns of tan on the sides
 71 2011-05-03 00:30:50 <ntosme2> do the ati cards automatically downclock when they get hot?
 72 2011-05-03 00:31:08 <TheKid> yes
 73 2011-05-03 00:31:40 <ntosme2> great, I'm heating my closet enough to slow the hash rate lol
 74 2011-05-03 00:32:17 <gjs278> umm
 75 2011-05-03 00:32:22 <gjs278> if you're on linux
 76 2011-05-03 00:32:26 <gjs278> they will not downclock
 77 2011-05-03 00:32:49 <gjs278> I've never seen my card downclock even when it accidentally hit 89c once
 78 2011-05-03 00:33:34 <ntosme2> no? they seem to slow down when I close the closet door and it gets to 90F in there
 79 2011-05-03 00:35:23 <TheKid> 89c is almost at the VRM throttling temp
 80 2011-05-03 00:35:26 <TheKid> 120c
 81 2011-05-03 00:35:32 <TheKid> at least for my cards
 82 2011-05-03 00:36:23 <gjs278> you'll need to speak in C
 83 2011-05-03 00:36:30 <gjs278> I dont know F when ti comes to cards
 84 2011-05-03 00:36:31 <ntosme2> would water cooling be worth it for maybe 10 cards?
 85 2011-05-03 00:36:38 <gjs278> lol
 86 2011-05-03 00:36:39 <gjs278> no
 87 2011-05-03 00:36:51 <gjs278> you'd have to watercool each system
 88 2011-05-03 00:37:00 <gjs278> so 3 systems worse case
 89 2011-05-03 00:37:00 <TheKid> ntosme2: not at all
 90 2011-05-03 00:37:22 <TheKid> The only time water cooling is efficient is when you have a big fishtank of mineral oil
 91 2011-05-03 00:37:27 <TheKid> and you submerge the cards in that
 92 2011-05-03 00:37:42 <xelister> yes the fuck
 93 2011-05-03 00:38:12 <ntosme2> I'm not seeing the need for multiple pumps/systems
 94 2011-05-03 00:39:08 <TheKid> You'd need one bigass radiator
 95 2011-05-03 00:39:22 <TheKid> the biggest problem is the cooling block for each gpu/vrm set. Those don't come cheap.
 96 2011-05-03 00:39:23 <ntosme2> I'm thinking a large water pump and a standard water block for each
 97 2011-05-03 00:39:32 <ntosme2> I can make them actually
 98 2011-05-03 00:39:46 <TheKid> oh
 99 2011-05-03 00:39:48 <TheKid> that is impressive
100 2011-05-03 00:39:50 <ntosme2> I have a CNC mill and the necessary software
101 2011-05-03 00:39:56 <TheKid> if you can do it cheaply, then that might be worthwhile
102 2011-05-03 00:40:19 <TheKid> you might consider offering your services to people for btc :)
103 2011-05-03 00:40:29 <ntosme2> hmmmmmm...indeed
104 2011-05-03 00:40:47 <plato> hey guys, I edited nanotube's gpgsigner.py script to work in python 3. i would like to commit it to git and issue a pull request to nanotube. I can't figure out what I need to do next
105 2011-05-03 00:41:02 <plato> I have forked nanotube's repo, and I have installed git on my system, and I have the script available
106 2011-05-03 00:42:14 <plato> i haven't linked my github repo to my comp's git install at all
107 2011-05-03 00:47:48 <nanotube> plato: you need to create a branch on github, and push your changes to github. then you can submit a pull request.
108 2011-05-03 00:53:23 <TheKid> ArtForz: you ther?
109 2011-05-03 00:57:33 <apache> I'd like to personally thank the teamof dev who brought us bit coin....MAD RESPECT 2 U!
110 2011-05-03 00:57:58 <xelister> apache:  :)
111 2011-05-03 00:57:59 <apache> this is the future.
112 2011-05-03 00:58:06 <xelister> apache: yeap we hope so
113 2011-05-03 01:01:43 <_ape> do you guys know if the msi 790fx-gd70 can take 4*5870 without extenders?
114 2011-05-03 01:02:02 <_ape> trying to determine if i should use 2 cards per system or 4
115 2011-05-03 01:02:18 <_ape> if i have to buy extenders and stick a bunch of extra fans to run 4 it doesnt seem worth it for the minor power savings
116 2011-05-03 01:02:27 <tcatm> _ape: it might work if you add powerful fans
117 2011-05-03 01:02:31 <Diablo-D3> apache: more like one person, satoshi.
118 2011-05-03 01:02:38 <Riking> fans?
119 2011-05-03 01:02:43 <_ape> i think i will just go with 2 per box and stick with cheaper psu/case/mobo
120 2011-05-03 01:02:43 <fabianhjr> _ape: buy instead 2x 5970s
121 2011-05-03 01:02:46 <Riking> i like space.
122 2011-05-03 01:02:55 <_ape> i want to get 5970s but they are really hard to find at decent prices atm
123 2011-05-03 01:03:15 <_ape> ive seen a handful on forums/ebay used but i dont want to risk one with no warranty when its $400 heh
124 2011-05-03 01:04:27 <plato> _ape: that might get you a steep discount
125 2011-05-03 01:04:32 <Riking> bah, mibbit.
126 2011-05-03 01:05:04 <_ape> i will definitely look out for 5970s to add once i get the first 2 machines going i think
127 2011-05-03 01:05:29 <_ape> i should be able to use one of those $14 pci=>pcie converters to add another card in each box
128 2011-05-03 01:05:38 <B0g4r7> ebay is $700+ anymore.
129 2011-05-03 01:05:56 <_ape> if the power use doesnt go too high heh
130 2011-05-03 01:06:11 <grbgout> plato: how goes the trip?
131 2011-05-03 01:06:22 <plato> grbgout: pretty good
132 2011-05-03 01:06:30 <grbgout> what state are you in now?
133 2011-05-03 01:06:40 <plato> i keep meaning to edit some video footage together and write up some posts but i get sidetracked every time
134 2011-05-03 01:06:42 <plato> still alabama
135 2011-05-03 01:06:53 <plato> i will probably leave in a couple days for new orleans
136 2011-05-03 01:07:01 <grbgout> nice
137 2011-05-03 01:07:11 <grbgout> My parents are visiting Alabama this coming weekend.
138 2011-05-03 01:07:24 <AAA_awright> noagendamarket: Ping
139 2011-05-03 01:08:46 <noagendamarket> hey
140 2011-05-03 01:08:49 <noagendamarket> wassup?
141 2011-05-03 01:21:18 <sacarlson> my new multi chain client will soon be adding headers to gennewaddress and will use the header to pick what config file to use WEEDS_mouAkvGktCQ6m1VoPS6hVwTi4dE7HU7KDC for example
142 2011-05-03 01:21:43 <Netsniper> i got .99 bitcoins!
143 2011-05-03 01:22:13 <B0g4r7> Hit up the faucet!
144 2011-05-03 01:22:40 <Netsniper> i did last night!
145 2011-05-03 01:22:56 <Netsniper> it gave me 230 million coins!
146 2011-05-03 01:23:15 <B0g4r7> jackpot
147 2011-05-03 01:23:15 <Netsniper> jk
148 2011-05-03 01:23:46 <B0g4r7> I was gonna say, you must've spent 'em awful quick.
149 2011-05-03 01:24:29 <Netsniper> yeah if i had that many i'd buy a mclaren and a garage to keep it in
150 2011-05-03 01:24:37 <Netsniper> within 24 hours
151 2011-05-03 01:24:48 <B0g4r7> If I had that I'd buy an OC-3.
152 2011-05-03 01:24:59 <Netsniper> yeah, i'd prolly get that later
153 2011-05-03 01:25:10 <Netsniper> whats that run a month?
154 2011-05-03 01:25:25 <B0g4r7> A t3 is maybe 15k/mo.
155 2011-05-03 01:25:29 <B0g4r7> So more than that.
156 2011-05-03 01:25:35 <Netsniper> i had a quote of $12,000/month or some shit back in 1998 for fiber
157 2011-05-03 01:25:45 <Netsniper> yeah
158 2011-05-03 01:26:15 <Netsniper> i miss the days of local isp's
159 2011-05-03 01:26:35 <B0g4r7> I was real happy when I was subscribed to one.
160 2011-05-03 01:26:44 <Netsniper> same
161 2011-05-03 01:27:26 <EPiSKiNG> god damn.... mtgox down again
162 2011-05-03 01:27:37 <EPiSKiNG> no wonder the uptrend has ceased
163 2011-05-03 01:27:41 <EPiSKiNG> no one can trade
164 2011-05-03 01:27:54 <B0g4r7> That's sure to put some fear into the market.
165 2011-05-03 01:28:12 <B0g4r7> The possibility of inaccessible funds for who knows how long.
166 2011-05-03 01:28:19 <luke-jr> Bitcoin Market is getting some activity lately
167 2011-05-03 01:28:29 <EPiSKiNG> why doesn't mtgox have redundant servers?
168 2011-05-03 01:28:39 <luke-jr> $3.39 there
169 2011-05-03 01:28:45 <luke-jr> EPiSKiNG: wouldn't help
170 2011-05-03 01:28:59 <B0g4r7> A ddos can knock out 12 IPs as easily as 1.
171 2011-05-03 01:29:05 <B0g4r7> Well, not as esaily, but it still can.
172 2011-05-03 01:29:10 <luke-jr> besides, IIRC MtGox already has 3 servers
173 2011-05-03 01:29:30 <B0g4r7> I heard that it was a SYN flood.
174 2011-05-03 01:29:37 <luke-jr> o rly
175 2011-05-03 01:29:41 <luke-jr> MagicalTux: turn on syn cookies
176 2011-05-03 01:29:58 <B0g4r7> I wonder, does ipv6 offer any advantages for this situation?
177 2011-05-03 01:29:58 <Diablo-D3> he already did
178 2011-05-03 01:30:09 <B0g4r7> Yeah, I mentioned syncookies earlier.
179 2011-05-03 01:30:58 <MagicalTux> [12:29:14] <luke-jr> MagicalTux: turn on syn cookies <- it's already on
180 2011-05-03 01:31:18 <luke-jr> MagicalTux: point the DNS at BTCex servers
181 2011-05-03 01:31:25 <MagicalTux> luke-jr: I thought about that one :p
182 2011-05-03 01:31:34 <EPiSKiNG> MagicalTux=mtgox?
183 2011-05-03 01:31:41 <luke-jr> MagicalTux: or better yet, the botnet controller
184 2011-05-03 01:31:47 <MagicalTux> luke-jr: tell me his ip
185 2011-05-03 01:31:53 <luke-jr> MagicalTux: that's not too difficult
186 2011-05-03 01:32:12 <luke-jr> scan all the attacking IPs for port 80 with contact info
187 2011-05-03 01:32:19 <luke-jr> contact the admin and get him to cooperate in a trace
188 2011-05-03 01:32:21 <luke-jr> voila
189 2011-05-03 01:32:47 <MagicalTux> luke-jr: could you help there? I posted a list of ~7000 ips already, but more busy having mtgox back up than tracking the attack
190 2011-05-03 01:33:02 <luke-jr> where's the list again?
191 2011-05-03 01:33:09 <B0g4r7> 7000 IPs huh.
192 2011-05-03 01:33:15 <MagicalTux> luke-jr: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/381851/
193 2011-05-03 01:33:20 <B0g4r7> Can you block just those, or do more rapidly pop up?
194 2011-05-03 01:33:29 <MagicalTux> B0g4r7: ?
195 2011-05-03 01:33:38 <luke-jr> although tbh, I do rather think it helps Bitcoin for MtGox to have all this downtime& :P
196 2011-05-03 01:33:44 <B0g4r7> Could you blacklist those 7000 IPs?
197 2011-05-03 01:33:53 <MagicalTux> B0g4r7: it's already the case
198 2011-05-03 01:34:00 <MagicalTux> but they keep adding more ips
199 2011-05-03 01:34:09 <B0g4r7> mmm
200 2011-05-03 01:34:18 <EPiSKiNG> block all but those who were there previous to the attack?
201 2011-05-03 01:34:26 <B0g4r7> hah
202 2011-05-03 01:34:36 <B0g4r7> whitelist
203 2011-05-03 01:35:06 <B0g4r7> Do the zombies appear to have any sort of signatue you can use to automatically detect (and automatically block) them?
204 2011-05-03 01:35:10 <luke-jr> MagicalTux: I presume you know Nihongo?
205 2011-05-03 01:35:24 <MagicalTux> luke-jr: yep
206 2011-05-03 01:35:28 <EPiSKiNG> maybe it's the US government trying to take it down... MtGox is the new ultra-villan
207 2011-05-03 01:35:45 <EPiSKiNG> haha
208 2011-05-03 01:35:47 <B0g4r7> us.gov would take the domain.
209 2011-05-03 01:36:19 <B0g4r7> It'sa probably paypal.
210 2011-05-03 01:37:25 <EPiSKiNG> interesting
211 2011-05-03 01:37:45 <B0g4r7> mt, if you would care to send me a tcpdump log showing some of the attacker activity I wouldn't mind looking at it to look for a signature or somesuch.
212 2011-05-03 01:37:57 <B0g4r7> (or wireshark capture, same thing)
213 2011-05-03 01:41:37 <gjs278> honestly, blackhole any attempts at connecting for the next 15 minutes at the load balancer level.
214 2011-05-03 01:41:44 <gjs278> then unban gribble
215 2011-05-03 01:41:47 <gjs278> and we'll be good to go
216 2011-05-03 01:42:10 <gjs278> I just won't connect during the honeypot stage and be fine
217 2011-05-03 01:42:42 <B0g4r7> A proper DDoS will hold IPs in reserve for days.
218 2011-05-03 01:43:07 <Diablo-D3> a proper ddos will use better means.
219 2011-05-03 01:43:27 <gjs278> a proper ddos is always chinese and russians so it's satoshi
220 2011-05-03 01:44:18 <xelister> gjs278: hm?
221 2011-05-03 01:44:41 <gjs278> ban everyone, sort the bodies out later
222 2011-05-03 01:45:22 <tcatm> hrm
223 2011-05-03 01:46:17 <tcatm> make the target urls static html files with javascript redirect to a new url with the script. ban every IP that requests that page without accessing the static file first. could this work?
224 2011-05-03 01:46:44 <Diablo-D3> tcatm: easy to work around.
225 2011-05-03 01:46:46 <gjs278> well it depends if they are just pinging or actively viewing the website
226 2011-05-03 01:46:58 <Diablo-D3> tcatm: and even doing that kind of shit costs.
227 2011-05-03 01:47:12 <tcatm> Diablo-D3: static files are free
228 2011-05-03 01:47:21 <Diablo-D3> not if I just keep slamming your static file server.
229 2011-05-03 01:47:25 <gjs278> eventually, static files arent free
230 2011-05-03 01:47:52 <gjs278> in all seriousness though, there's no way in hell I'm ever using mtusd
231 2011-05-03 01:48:18 <tcatm> keep them in memory, don't log access to them to disk.
232 2011-05-03 01:48:41 <Diablo-D3> you're just trying to varnish the problem
233 2011-05-03 01:48:45 <Diablo-D3> I can still bust varnish.
234 2011-05-03 01:48:59 <an20> cant you just keep a list of IP's that makes it past the login.  then during a ddos only allow IP's from prior days that were able to login.  I know the ddos uses spoofed IP's but it wont spoof very many ip's that are allowed
235 2011-05-03 01:49:13 <Diablo-D3> an20: requires upstream participation
236 2011-05-03 01:49:19 <an20> exactly
237 2011-05-03 01:49:23 <Diablo-D3> and syncookies does that at an IP level anyhow
238 2011-05-03 01:49:24 <an20> zebra null rout
239 2011-05-03 01:50:14 <Diablo-D3> it makes new connections harder while letting through existing ones
240 2011-05-03 01:50:17 <B0g4r7> To permanently combat a distrtibuted attack, we need a distributed service.
241 2011-05-03 01:50:22 <Diablo-D3> B0g4r7: yes but
242 2011-05-03 01:50:31 <Diablo-D3> to combat a distributed attack... you just ignore it.
243 2011-05-03 01:50:34 <an20> magitux is not google
244 2011-05-03 01:50:44 <Diablo-D3> I already told MagicalTux to move to RX
245 2011-05-03 01:50:49 <Diablo-D3> he needs to listen to my advice.
246 2011-05-03 01:50:56 <gjs278> what's rx
247 2011-05-03 01:51:03 <Diablo-D3> rapidxen
248 2011-05-03 01:51:09 <MagicalTux> Diablo-D3: moving stuff is not "that" easy
249 2011-05-03 01:51:12 <Diablo-D3> the only company thats really capable of dealing with this.
250 2011-05-03 01:51:22 <B0g4r7> I'm talking about a trading protocol that runs on the existing bitcoin p2p network.
251 2011-05-03 01:51:24 <gjs278> moving stuff couldn't have taken longer than this ddos
252 2011-05-03 01:51:25 <Diablo-D3> MagicalTux: setup three new VPS, move shit, make sure it works, change DNS.
253 2011-05-03 01:51:29 <an20> I have a feeling RX doesnt want this type of traffic
254 2011-05-03 01:51:38 <Diablo-D3> an20: RX laughs at this kind of traffic
255 2011-05-03 01:51:53 <Diablo-D3> RX users have been hit with 100gbit floods and ... well, no one actually noticed.
256 2011-05-03 01:52:09 <an20> this sounds inflated
257 2011-05-03 01:52:09 <Diablo-D3> service wasnt interrupted, and the automatic stuff kicked in
258 2011-05-03 01:52:12 <gjs278> this is a pretty good service
259 2011-05-03 01:52:17 <Diablo-D3> an20: nope
260 2011-05-03 01:52:37 <B0g4r7> Sounds like win.
261 2011-05-03 01:52:37 <Diablo-D3> and like 2 years ago I was hit with 40gbit/sec from the /b/tard army
262 2011-05-03 01:52:37 <gjs278> lol
263 2011-05-03 01:52:37 <MagicalTux> [12:50:57] <Diablo-D3> MagicalTux: setup three new VPS, move shit, make sure it works, change DNS. <- how do they protect from a large botnet?
264 2011-05-03 01:52:41 <Diablo-D3> like goggles, it did nothing
265 2011-05-03 01:53:12 <gjs278> they probably don't let that shit in the first place, that or their vps have enough bandiwdth to not care
266 2011-05-03 01:53:13 <Diablo-D3> I didnt even know about it until I checked my bw graph later on
267 2011-05-03 01:53:19 <Diablo-D3> gjs278: both.
268 2011-05-03 01:53:39 <Diablo-D3> the guy who owns it is almost a pioneer in ddos mitigation
269 2011-05-03 01:53:45 <Diablo-D3> he knows more about it than pretty much anyone
270 2011-05-03 01:53:49 <gjs278> is it igor
271 2011-05-03 01:53:53 <an20> what type of routers are they using?
272 2011-05-03 01:54:16 <Diablo-D3> an20: not cisco. hes not a noob.
273 2011-05-03 01:54:30 <an20> my guess it is some kind of hybrid foundry setup
274 2011-05-03 01:54:47 <B0g4r7> Quantum routers.
275 2011-05-03 01:54:52 <an20> lol
276 2011-05-03 01:54:52 <Diablo-D3> he has some foundry gear
277 2011-05-03 01:54:57 <B0g4r7> They route to all potential destination IPs simultaneiously.
278 2011-05-03 01:55:01 <Diablo-D3> and some of that other company that I think brocade bought
279 2011-05-03 01:56:09 <an20> well, if the russian maffia is involved I would not want to mess with them. poor Tux might have to go into hiding
280 2011-05-03 01:56:20 <Diablo-D3> dude, fuck the russian mofia
281 2011-05-03 01:56:23 <Diablo-D3> they cant do shit
282 2011-05-03 01:56:29 <gjs278> that's because of igor
283 2011-05-03 01:56:31 <an20> had a friedn selling cars to them, and for 10K anybody can turn up missing
284 2011-05-03 01:56:47 <Diablo-D3> the owner of RX laughs at russians
285 2011-05-03 01:56:52 <an20> dude, there are these groups that buy nice cars from the usa, and they are for real
286 2011-05-03 01:57:14 <forrestv> B0g4r7, i was thinking of something similar
287 2011-05-03 01:57:16 <Diablo-D3> dude, anyone can buy "nice cars" from the US.
288 2011-05-03 01:57:31 <gjs278> move to rx
289 2011-05-03 01:57:35 <sacarlson> what if he just changes the port he uses?
290 2011-05-03 01:57:36 <gjs278> install nginx for everything static
291 2011-05-03 01:57:41 <gjs278> proxy everything through nginx
292 2011-05-03 01:57:41 <sacarlson> like 8080
293 2011-05-03 01:57:42 <an20> they need to get them titled so they do it through dealers, its complicated
294 2011-05-03 01:57:48 <Diablo-D3> sacarlson: ... yes, and what, we type in port now? fuck that.
295 2011-05-03 01:58:09 <Diablo-D3> only pansy runs from ddos
296 2011-05-03 01:58:15 <Diablo-D3> I eat ddos for breakfast!
297 2011-05-03 01:58:26 <Diablo-D3> and then have sensible lunch, need to keep weight down :,
298 2011-05-03 01:58:28 <Diablo-D3> :<
299 2011-05-03 01:58:34 <gjs278> install nginx
300 2011-05-03 01:58:34 <sacarlson> Diablo-D3: well at least as an option until he fixes the ddos sure what's so hard about adding :8080 at the end
301 2011-05-03 01:58:42 <gjs278> igor eats ddos for breakfast
302 2011-05-03 01:58:45 <Diablo-D3> sacarlson: because bots just flood 8080.
303 2011-05-03 01:59:01 <Diablo-D3> gjs278: igor must pump iron, ddos very filling
304 2011-05-03 01:59:05 <forrestv> send coins to one global address with the liberty reserve name encoded in the tx somehow
305 2011-05-03 01:59:09 <forrestv> no need for a website :p
306 2011-05-03 01:59:25 <gjs278> I wish paypal just let bitcoin trading
307 2011-05-03 01:59:29 <gjs278> that would make everything too easy
308 2011-05-03 01:59:34 <Diablo-D3> I wish paypal would quit being the little girl.
309 2011-05-03 01:59:50 <Diablo-D3> In soviet russia, you know what we do to the little girl.
310 2011-05-03 01:59:52 <B0g4r7> paypal's probably behind the attack.
311 2011-05-03 01:59:58 <gjs278> doubt it
312 2011-05-03 02:00:01 <B0g4r7> It's certainly in their interest,
313 2011-05-03 02:00:04 <Diablo-D3> IN SOVIET RUSSIA _YOU_ ARE THE LITTLE GIRL
314 2011-05-03 02:00:08 <Diablo-D3> WA-HA HA HA HA HA
315 2011-05-03 02:00:19 <gjs278> the technology from soviet russia doesnt get ddossed
316 2011-05-03 02:00:20 <forrestv> bitcoin.local needs more participants
317 2011-05-03 02:00:21 <gjs278> thats all they do
318 2011-05-03 02:00:25 <xelister> Diablo-D3: there are CHK@ of that
319 2011-05-03 02:00:27 <gjs278> they walk down the streets ddossing each other
320 2011-05-03 02:00:36 <Diablo-D3> YOU ARE ALL READING THIS IN THE VOICE OF HEAVY WEAPONS GUY
321 2011-05-03 02:00:50 <sacarlson> I see it comeing from mexico, india, KAZAKHSTAN, UKRAINE,COLOMBIA  so he can't use a method to block locations
322 2011-05-03 02:01:08 <xelister> sacarlson: block all nigers fuckem o/
323 2011-05-03 02:01:16 <xelister> wait, that means also pollocks are blocked :<
324 2011-05-03 02:01:17 <gjs278> he can
325 2011-05-03 02:01:20 <gjs278> geoip
326 2011-05-03 02:01:33 <Diablo-D3> IN MOTHER RUSSIA, WE HAVE TWO KINDS OF ALCOHOLIC DRINK
327 2011-05-03 02:01:36 <xelister> MagicalTux: you around?
328 2011-05-03 02:01:38 <Diablo-D3> VODKA, AND MORE VODKA.
329 2011-05-03 02:01:45 <xelister> that reminds me
330 2011-05-03 02:01:48 <xelister> how much will it cost
331 2011-05-03 02:01:51 <MagicalTux> xelister: yes?
332 2011-05-03 02:01:52 <sacarlson> gjs278: geoip is what I used to find those locations above
333 2011-05-03 02:01:57 <Diablo-D3> OM NOM NOM NOM NOM
334 2011-05-03 02:02:06 <xelister> to have Adobe Flash developers being beaten up by an legion of drunken russian soliders
335 2011-05-03 02:02:15 <Diablo-D3> ONE PING ONLY
336 2011-05-03 02:02:21 <Diablo-D3> wait, wrong russian stereotype
337 2011-05-03 02:02:48 <Diablo-D3> american hardware, russian hardware, all made in taiwan!
338 2011-05-03 02:03:00 <xelister> MagicalTux: jabber?
339 2011-05-03 02:03:30 <B0g4r7> http://www.totallycrap.com/magazine/drunk_russian_guy_fall_off_a_tractor/
340 2011-05-03 02:04:27 <xelister> shit I cant spell.
341 2011-05-03 02:04:30 <Diablo-D3> fail
342 2011-05-03 02:04:33 <xelister> when drunk
343 2011-05-03 02:04:53 <Diablo-D3> I go on irc and troll LIKE A BAWS
344 2011-05-03 02:05:03 <xelister> btw I have a video
345 2011-05-03 02:05:22 <xelister> news report about why world trading should be moved to USD but in Tonall system
346 2011-05-03 02:05:36 <luke-jr> that's self-contradictatory
347 2011-05-03 02:05:46 <xelister> http://tinyurl.com/yzfp8dt
348 2011-05-03 02:06:18 <xelister> that dude is awesome.
349 2011-05-03 02:06:25 <Diablo-D3> IN MOTHER RUSSIA, WE HAVE OWN VERSION OF YOUR... ROCK AND ROLL.
350 2011-05-03 02:06:45 <Diablo-D3> ahaha I was right, its trololololo
351 2011-05-03 02:06:45 <gjs278> I only use software written by russians
352 2011-05-03 02:06:48 <gjs278> I've decided that right now
353 2011-05-03 02:07:00 <gjs278> I'm uninstalling linux I want the russian version
354 2011-05-03 02:07:02 <Diablo-D3> IN MOTHER RUSSIA, OUR TERMINALS ARE GREEN AND BLACK, AND RUN THE MATRIX SCREEN SAVER
355 2011-05-03 02:07:13 <luke-jr> Russians can make softwares?
356 2011-05-03 02:07:24 <gjs278> russians make the best software
357 2011-05-03 02:07:40 <Diablo-D3> IN MOTHER RUSSIA, WE JUST PIRATE THE SOFTWARE. SERIOUSLY. $250 FOR WINDOWS LICENSE? FUCK THAT.
358 2011-05-03 02:07:48 <xelister> WINDOWS LICENSE
359 2011-05-03 02:07:51 <xelister> wtf nigger please
360 2011-05-03 02:07:55 <xelister> who uses windows
361 2011-05-03 02:07:58 <gjs278> that's why they kidnapped Kaspersky
362 2011-05-03 02:08:04 <gjs278> because his anti-virus was too good
363 2011-05-03 02:08:05 <Diablo-D3> xelister: russians in mother russia, duh
364 2011-05-03 02:08:33 <Netsniper> IN SOVIET TIMES, SOFTWARE PIRATE *YOU*
365 2011-05-03 02:08:38 <gjs278> if I were russian I would use itunes to export munitions and missiles
366 2011-05-03 02:08:42 <Diablo-D3> YOU KNOW, MEDIC ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY, WE CALL IT MOTHER RUSSIA, DA? BUT GERMANY IS THE FATHERLAND.
367 2011-05-03 02:09:05 <B0g4r7> Der Vaterlund!
368 2011-05-03 02:10:20 <Riking> HEIL HITLER
369 2011-05-03 02:10:56 <B0g4r7> Fur den sieg!
370 2011-05-03 02:10:57 <Diablo-D3> <MEDIC> NEIN!
371 2011-05-03 02:17:17 <forrestv> has anybody thought of transporting their computer's airflow to outside or the attic, to avoid heat?
372 2011-05-03 02:19:39 <Netsniper> forrestv: http://www.gearlog.com/2011/01/geek_harnesses_nature_turns_ou.php
373 2011-05-03 02:25:16 <plato> pull request for python 3 version of nanotube's gpg signer script: https://github.com/nanotube/supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor/pulls
374 2011-05-03 02:26:02 <EvanR> forrestv: well as long as the attic super insulated and can withstand arbitrary temperatures
375 2011-05-03 02:26:03 <luke-jr> plato: tested how? was Supybot migrated to Py3?
376 2011-05-03 02:26:22 <plato> luke-jr: no, this is just a python script to clearsign a challenge string
377 2011-05-03 02:26:28 <AAA_awright> noagendamarket: Ping
378 2011-05-03 02:26:47 <AAA_awright> Oh
379 2011-05-03 02:26:48 <plato> AAA_awright: 23:26 <+noagendamarket> afk
380 2011-05-03 02:26:58 <AAA_awright> noagendamarket: If I ping you you need to pong me back
381 2011-05-03 03:01:12 <B0g4r7> ;;bc,calc 1200000
382 2011-05-03 03:01:13 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 1200000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 4 days, 13 hours, 2 minutes, and 4 seconds
383 2011-05-03 03:07:36 <noagendamarket> AAA_awright :pong
384 2011-05-03 03:07:44 <AAA_awright> Ah!
385 2011-05-03 03:07:52 <AAA_awright> I should have posted the link too, uh
386 2011-05-03 03:08:11 <AAA_awright> noagendamarket: From ##dns-p2p http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=6197.0
387 2011-05-03 03:08:26 <AAA_awright> I'm trying to figure out what all this DNS stuff is about
388 2011-05-03 03:08:32 <AAA_awright> Who's working on this stuff
389 2011-05-03 03:09:03 <noagendamarket> ah come to #namecoin
390 2011-05-03 03:09:08 <Kiba> AAA_awright: the dns p2p group?
391 2011-05-03 03:09:20 <AAA_awright> Yes
392 2011-05-03 03:09:30 <Kiba> I am using a DNS server that got its data from the namecoin blockchain
393 2011-05-03 03:09:32 <AAA_awright> noagendamarket: No you come to us, we work on theory
394 2011-05-03 03:09:38 <Kiba> their site looks dead to me
395 2011-05-03 03:09:44 <AAA_awright> Who?
396 2011-05-03 03:09:56 <Kiba> the dns p2p group
397 2011-05-03 03:10:16 <AAA_awright> It works on my end
398 2011-05-03 03:11:07 <Kiba> not what I mean
399 2011-05-03 03:11:10 <B0g4r7> ;;bc,stats
400 2011-05-03 03:11:12 <gribble> Current Blocks: 121547 | Current Difficulty: 109670.13329248 | Next Difficulty At Block: 122975 | Next Difficulty In: 1428 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 12 hours, 29 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 144897.25366824
401 2011-05-03 03:11:19 <Kiba> the activity level of the group is next to none?
402 2011-05-03 03:14:11 <sacarlson> Kiba: I should look at it does it work?
403 2011-05-03 03:14:40 <Kiba> namecoin is working software
404 2011-05-03 03:14:51 <AAA_awright> Kiba: On dead principles
405 2011-05-03 03:15:11 <Kiba> explains
406 2011-05-03 03:15:13 <sacarlson> AAA_awright: dead principles?
407 2011-05-03 03:15:25 <AAA_awright> I'm not entirely sure how Namecoin works, but
408 2011-05-03 03:15:35 <AAA_awright> If you have to generate domain names, you've killed it
409 2011-05-03 03:15:35 <noagendamarket> I dont know how it works either
410 2011-05-03 03:16:02 <AAA_awright> I've shown that through my research on the site which I encourage anyone implementing a solution to look at
411 2011-05-03 03:16:04 <Kiba> umm.
412 2011-05-03 03:16:05 <AAA_awright> and understand
413 2011-05-03 03:16:06 <Kiba> it's a working system
414 2011-05-03 03:16:24 <Kiba> you don't generate domain names
415 2011-05-03 03:16:28 <Kiba> you generate coins
416 2011-05-03 03:16:35 <Kiba> that you spent to get new names
417 2011-05-03 03:17:24 <sacarlson> Kiba: or you buy coins to buy a name that last for how long?
418 2011-05-03 03:18:18 <Kiba> 3 months
419 2011-05-03 03:18:19 <Kiba> roughly
420 2011-05-03 03:19:38 <doublec> it last 3 months but updates are free iirc
421 2011-05-03 03:32:40 <npouillard> AAA_awright: you don't generate domain names but namecoins which can be spent to pay fees for domain names operations
422 2011-05-03 03:35:00 <npouillard> AAA_awright: oh you switched to #namecoin
423 2011-05-03 03:35:08 <luke-jr> ;;bc,eligius
424 2011-05-03 03:35:09 <gribble> 27616639.7133
425 2011-05-03 03:35:13 <luke-jr> ;;bc,calc [bc,eligius]
426 2011-05-03 03:35:14 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 27616639.7133 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 4 hours, 44 minutes, and 16 seconds
427 2011-05-03 03:35:22 <luke-jr> wtf is taking so long -.-
428 2011-05-03 03:40:55 <luke-jr> [01:37:53] <ljrbot> Blk 0000000000001c06fe3805f664cdb1b877bf6eebcc48c0f95419bb60e2468dd1: 1jT8tyQe4p1vF9TZ8zsxzsj2L3aehvF1v 9.30106262 BTC, 1NJiq6mPGWaEQUFwcnAWBjVAJES5UZLeQp 8.89388155 BTC, 1QDs3u4NawCmPBfMxWzZARbwjWwEQdTFTd 4.71823627 BTC, 1KoBYhF3uNS5ZvGTd4RNjWc7VbMqQfDwzy 2.76073659 BTC, 1Dh225PqFhD8eDFzqPoT8j5uhPF2j815Cb
429 2011-05-03 03:40:56 <luke-jr> ll
430 2011-05-03 03:40:58 <luke-jr> lol*
431 2011-05-03 03:41:31 <Diablo-D3> wtf am I looking at
432 2011-05-03 03:43:14 <luke-jr> Diablo-D3: my pool found a block 2 minutes after I complained it was taking too long
433 2011-05-03 03:43:44 <Diablo-D3> hax
434 2011-05-03 03:43:45 <phantomcircuit> lulz
435 2011-05-03 03:43:49 <luke-jr> http://blockexplorer.com/block/0000000000001c06fe3805f664cdb1b877bf6eebcc48c0f95419bb60e2468dd1
436 2011-05-03 03:43:51 <phantomcircuit> LUKE IS HACKING
437 2011-05-03 03:43:54 <phantomcircuit> GUYS HES CHEATING
438 2011-05-03 03:43:58 <phantomcircuit> MOOOOMMMMM
439 2011-05-03 03:44:07 <luke-jr> imma try again
440 2011-05-03 03:44:12 <luke-jr> ;;bc,eligius
441 2011-05-03 03:44:14 <gribble> 25640954.7571
442 2011-05-03 03:44:16 <luke-jr> ;;bc,calc [bc,eligius]
443 2011-05-03 03:44:17 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 25640954.7571 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 5 hours, 6 minutes, and 10 seconds
444 2011-05-03 03:44:22 <luke-jr> wtf only 1 block yesterday
445 2011-05-03 03:44:30 <plato> que pasa
446 2011-05-03 03:46:30 <luke-jr> aww, not working -.
447 2011-05-03 03:46:31 <luke-jr> -.-
448 2011-05-03 03:46:32 <xelister> phantomcircuit: ?
449 2011-05-03 03:46:33 <luke-jr> gnight
450 2011-05-03 03:46:40 <phantomcircuit> xelister, it's a joke bro
451 2011-05-03 03:46:42 <phantomcircuit> also
452 2011-05-03 03:46:44 <luke-jr> lol
453 2011-05-03 03:46:44 <xelister> luke-jr is wallhacking
454 2011-05-03 03:54:04 <FellowTraveler> Any Bitcoin coders around?  Writing a Bitcoin GUI right now, and running into this bug, which occurs also on command line
455 2011-05-03 03:54:12 <FellowTraveler> Bitcoin freezes when I do this:  ./bitcoin getaccountaddress ""
456 2011-05-03 03:54:40 <FellowTraveler> running 0.3.20.1
457 2011-05-03 03:54:41 <xelister> yo FellowTraveler
458 2011-05-03 03:54:44 <xelister> :)
459 2011-05-03 03:54:56 <xelister> FellowTraveler: blockchain downloaded and all?
460 2011-05-03 03:55:10 <FellowTraveler> it says 24,930 blocks
461 2011-05-03 03:55:13 <tcatm> FellowTraveler: just after starting bitcoind on an empty datadir?
462 2011-05-03 03:55:23 <tcatm> i.e. virgin wallet.dat?
463 2011-05-03 03:55:30 <FellowTraveler> yes but I can try again
464 2011-05-03 03:55:36 <FellowTraveler> just erase that dir and try again?
465 2011-05-03 03:55:39 <tcatm> known problem
466 2011-05-03 03:55:50 <FellowTraveler> well then what's the workaround?
467 2011-05-03 03:55:51 <alkor> ;;gpg auth alkor
468 2011-05-03 03:55:51 <gribble> Request successful for user alkor. Your challenge string is: 47166ede6cb5b977362a3251fb5a9ec4417445cc530048bd9e57b7c10cd7eb76
469 2011-05-03 03:55:57 <alkor> ;;gpg verify http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/381994/
470 2011-05-03 03:55:57 <gribble> You are now authenticated for user 'alkor' with key DF3E2313092D03BB
471 2011-05-03 03:56:27 <tcatm> FellowTraveler: calling getinfo once after creating the new wallet
472 2011-05-03 03:56:46 <tcatm> FellowTraveler: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/185
473 2011-05-03 03:56:54 <FellowTraveler> tcatm: therefore if I just code the client to call getInfo whenever it loads, problem will disappear?
474 2011-05-03 03:56:57 <xelister> good work on your projects FellowTraveler o/
475 2011-05-03 03:57:35 <tcatm> FellowTraveler: yep. well eventually there'll be a fix for bitcoind...
476 2011-05-03 03:59:32 <sacarlson> I seem to note when my dynamic ip changes that my bitcoind seems to never recover back into the IRC is this normal?
477 2011-05-03 03:59:47 <Diablo-D3> sacarlson: it doesnt need to join irc
478 2011-05-03 03:59:48 <plato> FellowTraveler: didn't know you were here, i've been pimping Open Transactions lately
479 2011-05-03 03:59:58 <Diablo-D3> infact, the irc code is going to be removed at some point
480 2011-05-03 03:59:59 <sacarlson> Diablo-D3: why not?
481 2011-05-03 04:00:05 <Diablo-D3> its not needed for the functioning of bitcoin
482 2011-05-03 04:00:11 <Diablo-D3> sacarlson: it keeps a list of all the nodes it knows of
483 2011-05-03 04:00:15 <phantomcircuit> sacarlson, irc is just to bootstrap a list of peers
484 2011-05-03 04:00:15 <plato> FellowTraveler: also, i'd love to hear your thoughts on my post here - http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=7096
485 2011-05-03 04:00:19 <Diablo-D3> and nodes can send each other more nodes
486 2011-05-03 04:00:31 <Diablo-D3> and bitcoin comes with a list of 200 well known nodes
487 2011-05-03 04:00:39 <Diablo-D3> irc just isnt needed, even for bootstrapping
488 2011-05-03 04:00:47 <sacarlson> phantomcircuit: in this case it's the only system that is on the IRC so without it the network is dead
489 2011-05-03 04:01:07 <tcatm> sacarlson: there are some bug reports for problems with dynamic IP changes. most are due to faulty routers
490 2011-05-03 04:01:24 <phantomcircuit> sacarlson, what?
491 2011-05-03 04:01:41 <phantomcircuit> sacarlson, you're running a parallel block chain?
492 2011-05-03 04:01:41 <sacarlson> phantomcircuit: it's my weeds network
493 2011-05-03 04:01:47 <sacarlson> phantomcircuit: yes
494 2011-05-03 04:02:04 <phantomcircuit> meh
495 2011-05-03 04:02:14 <phantomcircuit> mainline client has no reason to fix that
496 2011-05-03 04:03:01 <sacarlson> phantomcircuit: I was looking at the namecoin method that I might add something similar or the same to weeds
497 2011-05-03 04:07:37 <shazow> I just misread "weeds" as "tweets" and imagined a twitter-like service built on bitcoin-like blockchains where you buy slots for short messages
498 2011-05-03 04:08:24 <xelister> lol shazow
499 2011-05-03 04:11:28 <sacarlson> seems a transaction over a certain value should be able to add a dns if desired to the blockchain but I guess if the dns was poluted with wrong addresses it would also cause a failure of the network
500 2011-05-03 04:39:26 <JFK911> ;;bc,mtgox
501 2011-05-03 04:39:36 <gribble> timed out
502 2011-05-03 04:41:38 <sacarlson> JFK911: bummer must be being attacked again?
503 2011-05-03 04:41:55 <sacarlson> ;;bc,mtgox
504 2011-05-03 04:42:06 <gribble> timed out
505 2011-05-03 04:57:58 <eluos> bitcoin is so hot right
506 2011-05-03 04:57:59 <eluos> now
507 2011-05-03 04:59:24 <ersi> ;;bc,mtgox
508 2011-05-03 04:59:36 <gribble> Unknown host.
509 2011-05-03 04:59:43 <RenaKunisaki> oh dear
510 2011-05-03 04:59:53 <RenaKunisaki> last I saw was 3.495
511 2011-05-03 05:00:12 <ersi> bitcoincharts lateast poll was "Previous Close: 3.2$" at mtgox
512 2011-05-03 05:00:28 <ersi> and "Latest Price: 3.1211$"
513 2011-05-03 05:00:40 <ersi> Is anyone here selling or buying for that price? :o
514 2011-05-03 05:04:03 <molecular> mtgox is really slow. is the ddos still going on? or did MagicalTux put some rate-limiting stuff?
515 2011-05-03 05:04:14 <xelister> molecular: still going
516 2011-05-03 05:04:28 <molecular> wow, congrats for making things accessible to MagicalTux then ;)
517 2011-05-03 05:05:28 <molecular> I'm assuming they use a botnet? how long can they sustain this typically?
518 2011-05-03 05:05:57 <MagicalTux> molecular: seems like they can hold for a while
519 2011-05-03 05:06:27 <xelister> btw guys, please review BtcFn bitcoin transport protocol freenet:SSK@oG7cGoUEBuHyulWpcmqV0yc-I569Re2A7RRs8zRljEs,IWIcXczmLdP9FEjTvoxJgGnXnK5~PxOppN-wYSADPWQ,AQACAAE/bitcoin-over-freenet-1/
520 2011-05-03 05:06:53 <gjs278> post it on a real url
521 2011-05-03 05:06:56 <gjs278> and I'll consider it
522 2011-05-03 05:07:40 <xelister> most interesting for people actually using freenet =) but ok
523 2011-05-03 05:10:42 <molecular> MagicalTux, I just hope it costs them a lot of $$$ (or should I say "RUB")
524 2011-05-03 05:10:45 <da2ce7> yo xelister
525 2011-05-03 05:11:23 <da2ce7> https://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=2312.0
526 2011-05-03 05:12:44 <xelister> da2ce7: missing image... need to repate to normal internet
527 2011-05-03 05:12:46 <CoinMan> Wow, super nice of this guy but is bitcoin ready for this exposure now? http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=6619.0
528 2011-05-03 05:15:30 <molecular> ugh, I hate radio ads.
529 2011-05-03 05:16:10 <molecular> that's why I dont listen to traditional radio stations
530 2011-05-03 05:17:05 <CoinMan> :)
531 2011-05-03 05:17:56 <CoinMan> I just wonder what the devs think...if bitcoin is really ready for mainstream after the events of the past couple of days.
532 2011-05-03 05:23:28 <molecular> it's not like millions will join because of a radio ad, is it?
533 2011-05-03 05:26:03 <molecular> what do you guys think of my first bitcoin-related idea: https://bitpoll.dyndns.org?poll=1 (sorry 'bout the cert and the shameless plug)
534 2011-05-03 05:26:23 <comboy> MagicalTux: I'm not up to date, but about ddos, are there a lot of ips there? any chance you could publish list somewhere?
535 2011-05-03 05:26:56 <MagicalTux> comboy: got a 7k ips list on the forum
536 2011-05-03 05:27:12 <comboy> oh, sorry I missed that, will search thx
537 2011-05-03 05:27:46 <MagicalTux> it's in the "mtgox vs mysterious russia" thread
538 2011-05-03 05:27:47 <MagicalTux> page 3
539 2011-05-03 05:27:49 <MagicalTux> near the end
540 2011-05-03 05:27:56 <comboy> got it, thanks
541 2011-05-03 05:29:22 <molecular> anyone else have problems accessing forums?
542 2011-05-03 05:29:30 <comboy> yup
543 2011-05-03 05:29:42 <molecular> also ddos??
544 2011-05-03 05:30:08 <comboy> it's getting interesting, doesn't it? :)
545 2011-05-03 05:30:12 <molecular> sure is ;)
546 2011-05-03 05:30:33 <molecular> I kinda like being attacked, means you're important ;)
547 2011-05-03 05:30:39 <MagicalTux> meh
548 2011-05-03 05:30:39 <[Tycho]> Why would anyone ddos the forums ? You only need to post a link to hnews and it's done :)
549 2011-05-03 05:30:55 <molecular> did someone post a link to hnews?
550 2011-05-03 05:30:57 <xelister> [Tycho]: are you the russian guy responsible =)
551 2011-05-03 05:30:58 <MagicalTux> [Tycho]: in 10 minutes, clone attack in the channel, I'd guess?
552 2011-05-03 05:30:59 <xelister> >_>
553 2011-05-03 05:31:22 <MagicalTux> it's not the forums which are targetted, but bitcoin.org (wild guess)
554 2011-05-03 05:31:54 <molecular> hmm, bitcoin.org itself seams to load rapidly, though
555 2011-05-03 05:32:09 <[Tycho]> No, i'm not evil.
556 2011-05-03 05:32:12 <molecular> oh, no it doesnt
557 2011-05-03 05:32:32 <[Tycho]> And i don't agree with btcex guy.
558 2011-05-03 05:32:48 <MagicalTux> ok, so forum is attacked
559 2011-05-03 05:32:49 <MagicalTux> great
560 2011-05-03 05:33:18 <BurtyB> :/
561 2011-05-03 05:33:19 <molecular> lol
562 2011-05-03 05:33:57 <[Tycho]> He wants the exchange to be stopped when rate changes rapidly and during night, i don't like it.
563 2011-05-03 05:34:33 <BurtyB> have verisign not called up yet to offer you ddos protection?
564 2011-05-03 05:35:13 <comboy> I'm no Russia enemy but they may still have some ideas hardcoded about things like "everyone should get evenly", that what limiting trading sounds to me like
565 2011-05-03 05:35:37 <BurtyB> looks like britcoin is broken now too :(
566 2011-05-03 05:35:40 <MagicalTux> [16:34:03] <BurtyB> have verisign not called up yet to offer you ddos protection? <- actually, they did
567 2011-05-03 05:35:59 <ersi> comboy: No need to generalise that much dude. It's a freckin' huge country.
568 2011-05-03 05:36:06 <ersi> Makes you sound like an idiot.
569 2011-05-03 05:36:26 <comboy> ersi: there may be some truth in what you're saying, sorry then
570 2011-05-03 05:36:36 <BurtyB> MagicalTux sounds similar to someone else I know then heh
571 2011-05-03 05:36:40 <ersi> Just sayin'
572 2011-05-03 05:37:12 <MagicalTux> BurtyB: got an email "Hi, google alerts told us you got attacked blablabla we don't tell you how much right now because you'd faint"
573 2011-05-03 05:37:14 <comboy> so let's say I only meant those who want to limit trading/mtgox, I may have some opinion about them I guess
574 2011-05-03 05:38:46 <MagicalTux> anyway I'm speeding up the process of setting up the new server for mtgox
575 2011-05-03 05:38:50 <comboy> MagicalTux: how many boxes do you have for mtgox if many?
576 2011-05-03 05:39:10 <BurtyB> MagicalTux :) yes i imagine their price will have have a few digits :(
577 2011-05-03 05:39:12 <MagicalTux> comboy: for now I used to run on 3 servers, I'll move to a single server at a specific provider specialized in ddos mitigation
578 2011-05-03 05:39:33 <MagicalTux> BurtyB: one of the first "cheap" alternative was US$9k/month
579 2011-05-03 05:39:48 <comboy> MagicalTux: there are some providers like this? any links if it's not confidential?
580 2011-05-03 05:39:49 <BurtyB> MagicalTux nice... not
581 2011-05-03 05:40:05 <MagicalTux> [16:39:18] <comboy> MagicalTux: there are some providers like this? any links if it's not confidential? <- the name passed here a few times
582 2011-05-03 05:40:15 <MagicalTux> prolexic.com for example
583 2011-05-03 05:40:59 <comboy> sorry I just only have time to read irc from time to time lately, so then I end up asking questions that have been asked many times before
584 2011-05-03 05:41:13 <comboy> I just cannot stop curiosity
585 2011-05-03 05:41:28 <MagicalTux> np
586 2011-05-03 05:42:39 <molecular> anyone know a simple way to geolocate a list of 7000 ips and draw them on a map?
587 2011-05-03 05:42:55 <comboy> hmm, I had a script for that
588 2011-05-03 05:43:09 <comboy> but with 7000 may be problem, common appis have daily limits like 1k max afair
589 2011-05-03 05:43:41 <MagicalTux> [16:42:09] <molecular> anyone know a simple way to geolocate a list of 7000 ips and draw them on a map? <- most are in mexico, tcatm checked the locations already (not as pretty as on a map, but good enough for what I had to do)
590 2011-05-03 05:43:42 <molecular> had a rapid-proxy-switching script laying around for google map ripping
591 2011-05-03 05:44:34 <comboy> nice, I wonder if google is still accepting tor ips for this
592 2011-05-03 05:46:19 <molecular> tor is probably too slow to rip considerable amounts of google map data, I used "traditional" proxy lists back when I did this
593 2011-05-03 05:46:34 <molecular> ripped over 1.000.000 jpegs
594 2011-05-03 05:46:55 <comboy> it's not really that slow when you're doing many connections in parallel, I guet 1-2s per request after warmup
595 2011-05-03 05:47:05 <comboy> look what I found:
596 2011-05-03 05:47:09 <comboy> http://www.phpace.com/tools/network-tools/ip-to-location/
597 2011-05-03 05:47:18 <comboy> worked with 200+ ips for me from the list
598 2011-05-03 05:47:27 <molecular> nice
599 2011-05-03 05:47:43 <comboy> ok
600 2011-05-03 05:47:50 <comboy> I pasted 200 ;p
601 2011-05-03 05:47:56 <comboy> it cuts to 100 but still
602 2011-05-03 05:48:37 <molecular> yeah
603 2011-05-03 05:48:42 <MagicalTux> comboy: just download the "maxmind geoip lite database" and use it
604 2011-05-03 05:48:49 <MagicalTux> it's free and since you lookup locally, no rate limit
605 2011-05-03 05:48:55 <comboy> looks like maybe first ips were from like vietnam, but last ones are mostly europe
606 2011-05-03 05:48:59 <molecular> am at it
607 2011-05-03 05:49:03 <comboy> somebody have a nice botnet
608 2011-05-03 05:49:08 <MagicalTux> comboy: in the whole list, the winner is mexico
609 2011-05-03 05:49:13 <molecular> or multiple ones
610 2011-05-03 05:49:31 <comboy> MagicalTux: thx, didn't know that one
611 2011-05-03 05:50:25 <MagicalTux> maxmind is like the most famous company when it comes to ip geolocalisation
612 2011-05-03 05:50:45 <BurtyB> and maxmind are sane and actually update listings when you complain :)
613 2011-05-03 05:52:20 <comboy> haven't tested this lite version accuracy yet but this is so way cooler than querying some remote apis
614 2011-05-03 05:52:47 <TD> molecular: funny
615 2011-05-03 05:52:52 <TD> molecular: my job used to be to stop guys like you
616 2011-05-03 05:53:02 <BurtyB> php.net uses the lite version and there aren't many complaints
617 2011-05-03 05:53:11 <TD> you realize ripping google maps imagery is against the terms of service, right?
618 2011-05-03 05:53:27 <comboy> TD: at google or somewhere else?
619 2011-05-03 05:53:48 <TD> yes, i worked on google maps, one of the things i did was block scrapers like moleculars. i didn't work on it for a couple of years though.
620 2011-05-03 05:54:35 <comboy> it sounds like a difficult job
621 2011-05-03 05:55:18 <comboy> especially if you have some policy (if you have) to keep tor ips non-blocked
622 2011-05-03 05:55:46 <BurtyB> blocking tor exit nodes isnt too hard
623 2011-05-03 05:56:16 <comboy> sure, there are ips list ready to download, but not everyone wants to get rid of all tor users
624 2011-05-03 05:57:01 <LightRider> What if Egypt happens again? Do you want to be on the side of the oppressors?
625 2011-05-03 05:57:09 <comboy> still I don't get why people run these tor nodes, I would be really afraid of making all these nasty requests
626 2011-05-03 05:58:24 <comboy> what I want is a independent internet p2p physipcal structure, it's doable already, starting with networks in big cities, from hotspot to hotspot, only then internet will be safe
627 2011-05-03 05:59:54 <TD> comboy: it's hard to stop people who are willing to break the law to get the imagery yes, if they use thousands of proxies they are almost certainly doing that.
628 2011-05-03 06:00:09 <TD> tor ips are not treated specially. they're just proxies like any other.
629 2011-05-03 06:00:30 <molecular> TD, stop guys like me from doing what?
630 2011-05-03 06:01:06 <TD> scraping maps imagery
631 2011-05-03 06:01:45 <molecular> oh, well, not that easy to find something I won't wind my way around, though (if I have enough IPs available)
632 2011-05-03 06:02:04 <comboy> TD, well for maps I use openstreetmap, getting data for some own research seems reasonable, but I don't know what one could do with images since he cannot use them in public
633 2011-05-03 06:02:09 <TD> yes, like i said, people who are willing to used thousands of hacked machines are very hard to stop without inconveniencing regular users
634 2011-05-03 06:02:26 <TD> and unfortunately the fact that people like molecular are around does make things work worse for lots of other people
635 2011-05-03 06:02:46 <molecular> yeah, well. there's not much of a point in doing this anyway
636 2011-05-03 06:03:04 <molecular> as you said: you can't really use the data except for private uses
637 2011-05-03 06:03:10 <TD> so why were you doing it?
638 2011-05-03 06:03:18 <comboy> TD, oh, that sounds bad, it sounds like somewhat like security by obscurity, if something is possible just assume people will do it
639 2011-05-03 06:03:24 <molecular> I wanted to take map material on a rally jordan
640 2011-05-03 06:03:30 <molecular> *to jordan
641 2011-05-03 06:04:01 <TD> yeah. i don't think there's a free service that will let you do that today. the satellite companies want you to buy it from them, for that sort of thing.
642 2011-05-03 06:04:38 <TD> comboy: abuse fighting is all about raising the costs, raising the bar
643 2011-05-03 06:04:39 <molecular> I _did_ take the db with the images, which made for a queer situation on syrian border when they asked about gps or map material looking at my car pc ;)
644 2011-05-03 06:05:01 <molecular> "nooo, this is just for music (cranking it up)" solved the situation ;)
645 2011-05-03 06:05:32 <TD> hah
646 2011-05-03 06:05:40 <comboy> hehe
647 2011-05-03 06:08:37 <BurtyB> hmm has the new (0.3.21) client got different rules re fees?
648 2011-05-03 06:09:24 <molecular> I think it suggests you pay a fee if your tx meets certain critery which wasnt in 0.3.20 ?
649 2011-05-03 06:10:49 <BurtyB> hmm it says over size limit :/
650 2011-05-03 06:10:58 <molecular> the gui? yeah
651 2011-05-03 06:11:43 <molecular> I wish it was 0.001 instead of 0.01. 0.01 is not a reasonable fee for small (BTC-wise) tx
652 2011-05-03 06:11:50 <BurtyB> yeah in the gui
653 2011-05-03 06:12:04 <molecular> this was put in to avoid huge transaction backlog (anti-tx-spam)
654 2011-05-03 06:12:29 <molecular> well, rather it was put in so people wouldn't have to wait very long for their tx to get into block
655 2011-05-03 06:13:16 <BurtyB> oh well i want to move it so i guess i have to pay :/
656 2011-05-03 06:13:32 <molecular> if you're able to compile bitcoin yourself you could hack it
657 2011-05-03 06:24:23 <MagicalTux> meh
658 2011-05-03 06:24:26 <MagicalTux> forum ?
659 2011-05-03 06:24:44 <MagicalTux> "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.bitcoin.org" ... guess something happened while I was setting up a server
660 2011-05-03 06:26:11 <mrb_> yeah what's up with that? I hope it is not someone ddos'ing bitcoin.org too
661 2011-05-03 06:27:40 <comboy> I don't know if I should say that loud but you know, p2p can be ddosed too, and it's *much* harder to protect against that
662 2011-05-03 06:54:40 <sacarlson> genjix  how's your black-market doing?
663 2011-05-03 07:13:58 <jaromil> jgarzik: read now some conversations yesterday. autotools solves lots of headache with ubuntu packaging already
664 2011-05-03 07:14:02 <netxshare> it's been offline for me
665 2011-05-03 07:14:08 <netxshare> I wanted to test it out today =/
666 2011-05-03 07:14:25 <jaromil> branch is not moving since almost a week now, last thing missing is win32 build but i doubt i can do that alone
667 2011-05-03 07:14:45 <jaromil> i just plan to verify why some configure --flags aren't responding, hopefully that will fix
668 2011-05-03 07:16:09 <jaromil> so more or less that is it.
669 2011-05-03 07:16:47 <jaromil> btw for debian/ubuntu packaging, using multiple branches and git-buildpackage its a piece of cake
670 2011-05-03 07:17:16 <jaromil> since i'm rolling lots more stuff this way it can be easy for me to maintain .deb binary packages
671 2011-05-03 07:17:28 <jaromil> so if you like consider i can volunteer on that
672 2011-05-03 07:36:19 <topi`> my opinion is that we need a better client that is not written in C++ :)
673 2011-05-03 07:37:20 <disq> i think separating the ui from the internals would make this easier
674 2011-05-03 07:37:44 <topi`> funnily, I agree with Diablo on the point that libboost is a PITA
675 2011-05-03 07:37:48 <disq> unless someone was to rewrite it in a modern language (which is what c++ is not imo :P )
676 2011-05-03 07:38:19 <topi`> Erlang would be a good candidate, and then some formal verification tools could be used to verify the logic
677 2011-05-03 07:39:48 <jaromil> IMHO C and C++ are production ready languages, all the rest is toying and prototyping for kids in legoland <g>
678 2011-05-03 07:40:03 <jaromil> i agree libboost is PITA and actually could be substituted
679 2011-05-03 07:40:06 <disq> i never liked cpp
680 2011-05-03 07:40:45 <jaromil> if you want different langs on top of bitcoin you simply SWIG the shit out of its cpp classess, they are there for that
681 2011-05-03 07:40:47 <topi`> jaromil: I see it requires a working code to convince you otherwise.
682 2011-05-03 07:40:49 <topi`> we shall do that.
683 2011-05-03 07:40:57 <sacarlson> disq: you can make the user interface with anything just use rpc to comunicate with bitcoind
684 2011-05-03 07:41:10 <disq> libboost looks too heavy. i think if you don't want to use the 'v' flag with tar, then it's too heavy. (of course this rule could/should change with faster machines)
685 2011-05-03 07:41:14 <jaromil> topi`: sure you can take my skepticism as motivation if that suffices
686 2011-05-03 07:41:19 <topi`> my problem with c++ is that it's inherently difficult to prove that it works correctly. on functional languages, it's just a question of mathematics and determinism
687 2011-05-03 07:41:28 <topi`> jaromil: thank you for that!
688 2011-05-03 07:42:20 <jaromil> you knew i was a conservative bastard didn't you
689 2011-05-03 07:42:24 <sacarlson> disq: and there is the java branch if you like that lang better
690 2011-05-03 07:42:47 <sipa> java jre is a lot heavier then libboost, afaik :)
691 2011-05-03 07:42:48 <disq> sacarlson: true, but what about the core developers? they have feelings too? :)
692 2011-05-03 07:43:13 <jaromil> java ahahhahah java is not even good for prototyping
693 2011-05-03 07:43:28 <genjix> me and caedes already swig-enabled bitcoin
694 2011-05-03 07:43:32 <netxshare> what's the blackmarket website?
695 2011-05-03 07:43:34 <netxshare> errr
696 2011-05-03 07:43:40 <netxshare> the bitcoin blackmarket
697 2011-05-03 07:43:44 <jaromil> genjix: y0. i was waiting you to say it to not spoil the pleasure :D
698 2011-05-03 07:43:44 <netxshare> .py
699 2011-05-03 07:43:45 <netxshare> yes
700 2011-05-03 07:43:50 <genjix> http://glbse.com/
701 2011-05-03 07:43:53 <netxshare> thanks
702 2011-05-03 07:43:59 <sacarlson> I'm just learning c++ I haven't programed in C for years it's not that bad
703 2011-05-03 07:44:02 <netxshare> anyway to list the symbols from the client?
704 2011-05-03 07:44:09 <genjix> sup jaromil. you ran off before i got to say bye :p
705 2011-05-03 07:44:24 <netxshare> fyi, it's Monday.
706 2011-05-03 07:44:25 <genjix> netxshare: blackmarket help
707 2011-05-03 07:44:27 <jaromil> genjix: c'mon i'm sitting side by side here all day don't be sentimental now
708 2011-05-03 07:44:51 <jaromil> :) i was sorry but had stuff to do and was very annoyed by the weather
709 2011-05-03 07:44:58 <genjix> kk no worries
710 2011-05-03 07:45:24 <netxshare> bah
711 2011-05-03 07:45:32 <netxshare> can't list them with out knowning them?
712 2011-05-03 07:45:38 <topi`> genjix: so, did you already leave adam?
713 2011-05-03 07:45:44 <genjix> yes
714 2011-05-03 07:45:49 <topi`> cool
715 2011-05-03 07:46:26 <sacarlson> genjix: so hows your glbse.com doing?  I was just taking a look at it, the pages said would be down til monday but todays tuesday here
716 2011-05-03 07:48:21 <genjix> sacarlson: ask nefario
717 2011-05-03 07:48:59 <sacarlson> genjix: ok,  I didn't look at the code or see how it works I guess it works from a server not pure p2p?
718 2011-05-03 07:49:32 <netxshare> servers down again
719 2011-05-03 07:49:50 <genjix> yep server based.
720 2011-05-03 07:50:15 <sacarlson> genjix: ok cool thanks
721 2011-05-03 07:59:35 <genjix> topi`: #bitcoinconsultancy
722 2011-05-03 08:00:01 <CIA-30> bitcoin: genjix exper * r0e10fa10144e intersango/transfer.php: added recipient to text http://tinyurl.com/6yk5u6m
723 2011-05-03 08:00:07 <CIA-30> bitcoin: genjix exper * rd94c13f8e3da intersango/ (DATABASE transfer.php util.php withdraw.php): transferring files to other users works. TODO: - show past transfers in profile. - do exchange mechanism http://tinyurl.com/69x73xy
724 2011-05-03 08:00:08 <CIA-30> bitcoin: genjix exper * rc5afbeca2fae intersango/transfer.php: exchange funds is now working. http://tinyurl.com/6f5j2bx
725 2011-05-03 08:00:13 <CIA-30> bitcoin: genjix exper * r0204b38e981c intersango/profile.php: profile is showing transfers initiated by you. TODO: show transfers queued up FOR me. http://tinyurl.com/5spfezh
726 2011-05-03 08:07:45 <pirrr> Where can I find updates for mtgox?
727 2011-05-03 08:16:49 <genjix> ;;bc,seen tcatm
728 2011-05-03 08:16:50 <gribble> Error: "bc,seen" is not a valid command.
729 2011-05-03 08:17:00 <genjix> ;;seen tcatm
730 2011-05-03 08:17:00 <gribble> tcatm was last seen in #bitcoin-dev 4 hours, 15 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <tcatm> sacarlson: there are some bug reports for problems with dynamic IP changes. most are due to faulty routers
731 2011-05-03 08:22:24 <gribble> 29807073.0342
732 2011-05-03 08:22:24 <sipa> ;;bc,eligius
733 2011-05-03 08:22:29 <sipa> ooh nice
734 2011-05-03 08:22:31 <UukGoblin> eliwhat?
735 2011-05-03 08:22:36 <sipa> luke-jr's pool
736 2011-05-03 08:22:44 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 29807073.0342 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 4 hours, 23 minutes, and 22 seconds
737 2011-05-03 08:22:44 <sipa> ;;bc,calc [bc,eligius]
738 2011-05-03 08:22:56 <BlueMatt> ;;seen gavinandresen
739 2011-05-03 08:22:56 <gribble> gavinandresen was last seen in #bitcoin-dev 13 hours, 40 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <gavinandresen> talk to y'all later, I've gotta go...
740 2011-05-03 08:24:08 <UukGoblin> are any nodes under attack too?
741 2011-05-03 08:25:02 <BlueMatt> UukGoblin: you mean the ddoses going around?
742 2011-05-03 08:25:07 <UukGoblin> yeah
743 2011-05-03 08:25:45 <BlueMatt> nothing showing up odd on my graphs here
744 2011-05-03 08:25:49 <UukGoblin> cool
745 2011-05-03 08:26:01 <BlueMatt> wouldnt bet against it for the fallback nodes though
746 2011-05-03 08:26:10 <BlueMatt> gonna go add mine to that list :)
747 2011-05-03 08:26:18 <UukGoblin> yeah I should probably add mine too
748 2011-05-03 08:26:46 <UukGoblin> but need to tighten it up a bit first
749 2011-05-03 08:28:00 <da2ce7_laptop> :_)
750 2011-05-03 08:28:21 <BlueMatt> da2ce7: yay, welcome to the wonderful world of wonderfulness
751 2011-05-03 08:28:46 <sipa> cat /boot/vmlinuz >/dev/dsp to hear the voice of god
752 2011-05-03 08:30:05 <da2ce7> still have windows on this bad boy tho.
753 2011-05-03 08:30:09 <BlueMatt> yay, bluematt.me now on fallback nodes list
754 2011-05-03 08:30:18 <BlueMatt> (just dont kill my dsl ;)
755 2011-05-03 08:37:18 <eps> ;;bc,stats
756 2011-05-03 08:37:20 <gribble> Current Blocks: 121589 | Current Difficulty: 109670.13329248 | Next Difficulty At Block: 122975 | Next Difficulty In: 1386 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 7 hours, 33 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 144455.68731208
757 2011-05-03 08:37:32 <eps> ;;bc,help
758 2011-05-03 08:37:32 <gribble> Alias bc,avgprc, Alias bc,bcm, Alias bc,blocks, Alias bc,btcex, Alias bc,calc, Alias bc,calcd, Alias bc,channels, Alias bc,diff, Alias bc,eligius, Alias bc,estimate, Alias bc,gen, Alias bc,gend, Alias bc,help, Alias bc,hextarget, Alias bc,labs, Alias bc,lbs, Alias bc,lukepool, Alias bc,mtgox, Alias bc,nexttarget, Alias bc,poolstats, Alias bc,prob, Alias bc,stats, Alias bc,timetonext, Alias (1 more message)
759 2011-05-03 08:37:35 <eps> ;;bc,help
760 2011-05-03 08:37:35 <gribble> Alias bc,avgprc, Alias bc,bcm, Alias bc,blocks, Alias bc,btcex, Alias bc,calc, Alias bc,calcd, Alias bc,channels, Alias bc,diff, Alias bc,eligius, Alias bc,estimate, Alias bc,gen, Alias bc,gend, Alias bc,help, Alias bc,hextarget, Alias bc,labs, Alias bc,lbs, Alias bc,lukepool, Alias bc,mtgox, Alias bc,nexttarget, Alias bc,poolstats, Alias bc,prob, Alias bc,stats, Alias bc,timetonext, Alias (1 more message)
761 2011-05-03 08:37:39 <eps> ;;bc,mtgox
762 2011-05-03 08:37:40 <gribble> Connection refused.
763 2011-05-03 08:37:48 <BlueMatt> mtgox is down - server upgrades
764 2011-05-03 08:37:53 <eps> ahh cool, thanks
765 2011-05-03 08:38:13 <UukGoblin> thought it was 'ddos' ;-P
766 2011-05-03 08:38:29 <BlueMatt> UukGoblin: it was, hence the upgrades
767 2011-05-03 08:38:32 <UukGoblin> ;-)
768 2011-05-03 08:39:18 <UukGoblin> kinda like 'signalling failure' on british underground
769 2011-05-03 08:39:24 <UukGoblin> when there was a bomb earlier
770 2011-05-03 08:39:31 <UukGoblin> sure, it failed to signal because it got blown up ;-]
771 2011-05-03 08:40:06 <BlueMatt> when was this?
772 2011-05-03 08:40:39 <UukGoblin> bomb attacks on london underground? uh... 7/7 2005
773 2011-05-03 08:40:57 <UukGoblin> unsure if it was /actually/ said it was signalling failure though
774 2011-05-03 08:41:06 <BlueMatt> oh that one
775 2011-05-03 08:41:06 <UukGoblin> definitely wasn't later, but I'd imagine some early reports might be that
776 2011-05-03 08:41:20 <UukGoblin> they use 'signalling failure' as a problem description quite often ;-]
777 2011-05-03 08:52:57 <UukGoblin> MagicalTux, btw, check out webscreen ;-]
778 2011-05-03 08:53:20 <disq> sipa: back in the day it was called the sound of linux
779 2011-05-03 08:53:42 <disq> and it was /vmlinuz because everybody used slackware :P
780 2011-05-03 08:57:00 <UukGoblin> hehe
781 2011-05-03 08:57:13 <UukGoblin> yeah OSS is kinda deprecated these days :-/
782 2011-05-03 08:57:38 <UukGoblin> and it's not as easy to pipe using ALSA
783 2011-05-03 08:57:41 <BlueMatt> lol, oss deprecated?
784 2011-05-03 08:57:48 <UukGoblin> in linux
785 2011-05-03 08:57:55 <UukGoblin> and 'kinda' ;-)
786 2011-05-03 08:58:05 <UukGoblin> I know OSSv4 is doing well in BSD
787 2011-05-03 11:09:03 <UukGoblin> MagicalTux, that was fast :-)
788 2011-05-03 11:09:21 <MagicalTux> UukGoblin: server is still in raid resync
789 2011-05-03 11:09:50 <UukGoblin> MagicalTux, btw, I tried to use the trading API a few times before, and it was always giving me some kind of 'not logged in' error...
790 2011-05-03 11:10:25 <MagicalTux> UukGoblin: "POST"
791 2011-05-03 11:10:39 <MagicalTux> it's displayed with ?user=blabla in the page, but you need to pass that as POST
792 2011-05-03 11:11:46 <UukGoblin> $ curl -k -X POST 'https://mtgox.com/code/getFunds.php?name=goblin&pass=secret'
793 2011-05-03 11:11:51 <UukGoblin> {"error":"Not logged in."}
794 2011-05-03 11:12:50 <MagicalTux> no
795 2011-05-03 11:13:28 <MagicalTux> curl -d 'name=goblin&pass=secret' 'https://mtgox.com/code/getFunds.php'
796 2011-05-03 11:15:27 <UukGoblin> oh, the... aaah
797 2011-05-03 11:15:35 <UukGoblin> that's confusing ;-]
798 2011-05-03 11:16:17 <UukGoblin> cool that works, thanks :-)
799 2011-05-03 11:16:21 <MagicalTux> yes, it is
800 2011-05-03 11:18:59 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: what is this I hear about going ahead with my/devrandom/sipa's builds as the "official builds"
801 2011-05-03 11:19:23 <gavinandresen> BlueMatt:  sounds like a good idea to me.
802 2011-05-03 11:19:46 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: ok so I upload the files to you to go to sf?
803 2011-05-03 11:20:09 <gavinandresen> Yes
804 2011-05-03 11:20:27 <gavinandresen> (well, just put them someplace I can get them, I suppose)
805 2011-05-03 11:20:57 <BlueMatt> alright one sec, Ill put it on the mirrors
806 2011-05-03 11:21:10 <gavinandresen> If that gets annoying, I'll anoint one of you the official built team leader, and let you upload to sourceforge
807 2011-05-03 11:21:32 <gavinandresen> Hang on, you don't mean nightlies, do you?
808 2011-05-03 11:21:34 <BlueMatt> Well, devrandom is working on a better idea
809 2011-05-03 11:21:45 <BlueMatt> no, Im just putting it on that server
810 2011-05-03 11:21:51 <gavinandresen> I was talking about next major release....
811 2011-05-03 11:21:56 <sipa> i assume he's talking about the gitian builds
812 2011-05-03 11:22:35 <BlueMatt> gavinandresen: yea, ok, devrandom left me a gribble msg which seemed to indicate otherwise
813 2011-05-03 11:22:39 <BlueMatt> ie current 0.3.21 goes up
814 2011-05-03 11:22:44 <gavinandresen> Nah, why bother?
815 2011-05-03 11:22:49 <BlueMatt> thats what I thought
816 2011-05-03 11:23:01 <gavinandresen> Next release == gitian would be most excellent.
817 2011-05-03 11:23:07 <BlueMatt> or maybe I read it wrong...
818 2011-05-03 11:23:14 <gavinandresen> Otherwise it's just busy work, and I don't believe in busy-work
819 2011-05-03 11:23:23 <BlueMatt> tell me about it...
820 2011-05-03 11:23:39 <BlueMatt> (I am just getting out of hs ;)
821 2011-05-03 11:23:48 <BlueMatt> In any case, I suppose I read it wrong...my bad
822 2011-05-03 11:25:55 <BlueMatt> and I thought this decision had been made a while ago