1 2011-05-05 00:00:04 <vorlov> and see if that solves the noise problem at all
  2 2011-05-05 00:00:10 <vorlov> or atleast mitigate it....
  3 2011-05-05 00:00:55 <xelister> vorlov: lol
  4 2011-05-05 00:00:58 <xelister> I did same thing
  5 2011-05-05 00:01:01 <xelister> its the green wire.
  6 2011-05-05 00:01:16 <vorlov> green and any black right?
  7 2011-05-05 00:02:11 <xelister> yea
  8 2011-05-05 00:10:21 <jmpespxoreax> There is a comment in main.h stating that private keys have an expiration date: why is this?
  9 2011-05-05 00:10:31 <vorlov> btw can anyone recomend a pool to join?
 10 2011-05-05 00:12:47 <forrestv> what tool do you use for overclocking ati cards on windows..?
 11 2011-05-05 00:13:50 <vorlov> also what do you guys use in terms of miner? what produces more mhash (pocl/pocl-mod/diablo ?)?
 12 2011-05-05 00:14:58 <Diablo-D3> well
 13 2011-05-05 00:15:28 <vorlov> Diablo-D3: i gotta tell you that on my macbook, your miner took pocl ;-)
 14 2011-05-05 00:15:49 <Diablo-D3> outside of bfi_int, mine is.
 15 2011-05-05 00:16:26 <vorlov> BFI_INT is phoenix?
 16 2011-05-05 00:16:38 <vorlov> what did they do exactly to go up there? what does that BFI_INT do?
 17 2011-05-05 00:16:45 <Diablo-D3> bfi_int refers to a specific radeon 5xxx instruction
 18 2011-05-05 00:16:58 <Diablo-D3> pheonix is not the first to implement the use of it
 19 2011-05-05 00:18:47 <vorlov> i see
 20 2011-05-05 00:18:54 <vorlov> question
 21 2011-05-05 00:19:04 <vorlov> my bios i can tell to keep using the integrated video card on the mobo
 22 2011-05-05 00:19:15 <vorlov> but windows ensists on using the my new 5870... is there a way to force window
 23 2011-05-05 00:19:18 <vorlov> windows
 24 2011-05-05 00:19:21 <vorlov> to use the mobo one
 25 2011-05-05 00:24:58 <luke-jr> vorlov: poclbm
 26 2011-05-05 00:25:46 <Diablo-D3> vorlov: plug your monitor into the mobo one
 27 2011-05-05 00:26:31 <vorlov> Diablo-D3: i did.... but when windows loads up it defaults to trying to use the new 5870
 28 2011-05-05 00:26:47 <vorlov> Diablo-D3: so i changed the setting in the bios to allow me to keep using the onboard one
 29 2011-05-05 00:27:13 <vorlov> Diablo-D3: and when the computer loads it indeed shows stuff up while the monitor is connected to the mobo card... however when windows loads up it goes dark
 30 2011-05-05 00:27:26 <Diablo-D3> vorlov: hrm
 31 2011-05-05 00:27:30 <Diablo-D3> weird
 32 2011-05-05 00:27:42 <Diablo-D3> Im glad I dont use windows
 33 2011-05-05 00:28:50 <luke-jr> lol
 34 2011-05-05 00:29:19 <Sthebig> vorlov: Try safe mode with it set up to use the mobo.
 35 2011-05-05 00:29:43 <vorlov> Diablo-D3: to be quite honest with u im in unfamiliar teritorry myself.... last time i used windows was 13+ years ago... been a command prompt junky for all those years :)
 36 2011-05-05 00:29:59 <vorlov> Sthebig: ill try that!
 37 2011-05-05 00:30:28 <Diablo-D3> Ive ran nothing but linux for the past ten years
 38 2011-05-05 00:30:29 <Sthebig> Configure it to use the mobo while in safe mode
 39 2011-05-05 00:30:42 <Sthebig> Then reboot and hopefully it will work
 40 2011-05-05 00:30:45 <vorlov> Sthebig: do you happen to know where in windows 7 i can find that?
 41 2011-05-05 00:32:07 <Sthebig> Not off the top of my head.
 42 2011-05-05 00:32:23 <Sthebig> Try Display settings (same place where you choose resolution and such)
 43 2011-05-05 00:32:29 <Sthebig> Or Device manager
 44 2011-05-05 00:35:24 <vorlov> okay i will
 45 2011-05-05 00:35:25 <vorlov> ill report back
 46 2011-05-05 00:36:34 <Sthebig> good luck
 47 2011-05-05 00:36:52 <xelister> 74829bdb7c0c2a3a0450905a54ce776ffb33f3047202fce29619402b61e179a0  amdoverdrivectrl_1.1.4_amd64.deb
 48 2011-05-05 00:37:47 <xelister> uh wrong window
 49 2011-05-05 00:46:54 <vorlov> i think i got it under control
 50 2011-05-05 00:47:06 <vorlov> in the mean time, im wondering... have anyone tried to run a miner as a "Service" in windows?
 51 2011-05-05 00:47:22 <Diablo-D3> dpesnt seem worth it
 52 2011-05-05 00:53:18 <Diablo-D3> alright Im going to bed
 53 2011-05-05 00:53:19 <Diablo-D3> night
 54 2011-05-05 00:54:22 <xelister> Diablo-D3:
 55 2011-05-05 00:54:40 <xelister> an idea how to gt  r5970 mem to 300? I got it to 500 so far
 56 2011-05-05 01:29:14 <kika> jgarzik
 57 2011-05-05 01:45:31 <davex__> molecular
 58 2011-05-05 02:00:56 <kika> so basically each node has a list of txs in ram, when a node wants to create a txt it notifies every other node about a new tx and then every other node adds the txt to his ram?
 59 2011-05-05 02:17:42 <kika> anyone here?
 60 2011-05-05 02:18:09 <kika> anyone can help me test my pool?
 61 2011-05-05 02:29:44 <kika> jgarzik: are you there?
 62 2011-05-05 02:29:46 <kika> luke-jr|otg: are you there?
 63 2011-05-05 02:29:48 <kika> sipa: ?
 64 2011-05-05 02:29:56 <kika> ArtForz: ?
 65 2011-05-05 02:30:04 <kika> sacarlson: ?
 66 2011-05-05 02:30:20 <sacarlson> kika who me?
 67 2011-05-05 02:30:35 <kika> sacarlson: yes
 68 2011-05-05 02:30:40 <kika> sacarlson: when a node wants to create  tx
 69 2011-05-05 02:30:52 <sacarlson> kika: what do I need to run to test your pool?
 70 2011-05-05 02:31:02 <kika> sacarlson: it notifies all other nodes about the tx right?
 71 2011-05-05 02:31:03 <kika> sacarlson: its a pushpoold
 72 2011-05-05 02:31:10 <kika> sacarlson: which miners do you have?
 73 2011-05-05 02:31:31 <sacarlson> kika I just run the one built into bitcoind to drive my net
 74 2011-05-05 02:32:06 <kika> sacarlson: that one is pundippop one? its very slow
 75 2011-05-05 02:32:08 <[Tycho]> Oh, another new pool ? :)
 76 2011-05-05 02:32:12 <sacarlson> kika: will it run on ubuntu ?
 77 2011-05-05 02:32:22 <kika> sacarlson: which one?
 78 2011-05-05 02:32:49 <kika> sacarlson: which miner?
 79 2011-05-05 02:33:15 <sacarlson> kika no it just drives 1/2 of my dual amd procesor
 80 2011-05-05 02:33:26 <sacarlson> no gpu
 81 2011-05-05 02:33:43 <kika> okay you can try using
 82 2011-05-05 02:33:46 <sacarlson> you don't need alot of power to drive a small net
 83 2011-05-05 02:34:17 <kika> sacarlson: but the main bitcoin network is very big
 84 2011-05-05 02:34:33 <sacarlson> kika yes it is
 85 2011-05-05 02:35:06 <sacarlson> another reason to have multi net I think it will require less power to run
 86 2011-05-05 02:35:14 <kika> sacarlson: im testing this on the main network
 87 2011-05-05 02:36:04 <sacarlson> kika:  that's fine if you need help on main I would be glad to help just choose a minner for me to run if you just want to verify comunication
 88 2011-05-05 02:36:41 <kika> you dont have a gpu so you wont be able to test gpu miners :(
 89 2011-05-05 02:37:23 <sacarlson> kika: oh IC,  well I have a nvida gpu but I don't think I've seen miners that suport it
 90 2011-05-05 02:37:38 <kika> sacarlson: thxs for your help im falling asleep now, ill get back tomorrow so maybe we can test
 91 2011-05-05 02:37:54 <sacarlson> but I thought minners ran on anything just slower with less power cpu gpu
 92 2011-05-05 02:38:21 <kika> sacarlson: what do you mean?
 93 2011-05-05 02:39:27 <sacarlson> kika:  I'm not sure what protocol your minners use it should work with any engin to share the resources available on each node
 94 2011-05-05 02:40:52 <tippenein> what do I have to do on linux besides put bitcoin bin in /usr/bin ?
 95 2011-05-05 02:41:05 <sacarlson> I guess the job of the pool is to detect the amount of work being performed by each node and determine the payoff distibution to the amount of work done by each
 96 2011-05-05 02:41:29 <sacarlson> tippenein: ubuntu?
 97 2011-05-05 02:41:40 <tippenein> basically
 98 2011-05-05 02:41:46 <tippenein> gnome
 99 2011-05-05 02:41:59 <sacarlson> tippenein: there is a package that you can get from ppa
100 2011-05-05 02:42:22 <sacarlson> tippenein: it will only work on main net not -testnet
101 2011-05-05 02:44:20 <tippenein> thanks, i'm adding repo now
102 2011-05-05 02:44:23 <sacarlson> tippenein: I've personaly tested this package on ubuntu 10.04 https://launchpad.net/~stretch/+archive/bitcoin  on main
103 2011-05-05 02:45:57 <kika> and i connect 4 ati cards to it?
104 2011-05-05 02:46:00 <kika> without crossfire?
105 2011-05-05 02:46:26 <JFK911> nothing bad
106 2011-05-05 02:46:33 <kika> how it would choose which graphic card to use as main output?
107 2011-05-05 02:46:37 <tippenein> ty, that repository works perfect
108 2011-05-05 02:47:22 <sacarlson> tippenein: cool remember it only works on main it's the old version so the -testnet is no longer supported
109 2011-05-05 02:47:29 <kika> anyone here can test using diablominer
110 2011-05-05 02:50:29 <sacarlson> kika this one https://github.com/Diablo-D3/DiabloMiner ?
111 2011-05-05 02:50:50 <kika> sacarlson: yes
112 2011-05-05 02:51:03 <sacarlson> kika it seems to suport my nvidia
113 2011-05-05 02:51:05 <sacarlson> gpu
114 2011-05-05 02:51:25 <sacarlson> but like I said I think it will still run without just slower
115 2011-05-05 02:51:32 <sacarlson> I'll see if it compiles
116 2011-05-05 02:52:06 <kika> sacarlson: you dont need to compile it just run it using java
117 2011-05-05 02:52:56 <sacarlson> kika it must have binaries then?
118 2011-05-05 02:53:17 <sacarlson> I'll download it and take a look
119 2011-05-05 02:54:01 <kika> sacarlson: you can get the command line for diablominer from deepbit.net
120 2011-05-05 02:54:05 <kika> sacarlson: the diablominer you download it from github
121 2011-05-05 02:55:24 <tippenein> what does it mean if it won't connect and start generating the blocks?
122 2011-05-05 02:55:37 <kika> sacarlson: guiminer should work with your card i think
123 2011-05-05 02:55:43 <kika> sacarlson: we continue tomorro
124 2011-05-05 02:55:56 <sacarlson> kika ok night
125 2011-05-05 02:56:35 <sacarlson> tippenein: won't connect?  you running in -testnet?
126 2011-05-05 02:57:05 <tippenein> i did no arguments after bitcoin cmd
127 2011-05-05 02:57:51 <sacarlson> tippenein: when it first connects in main as you started it, it will need to download the chain so you should see the block count increasing
128 2011-05-05 02:58:05 <tippenein> that's what I'm not seeing
129 2011-05-05 02:59:08 <sacarlson> yes I guess first you should see a connection count that should go up to about 8,  so maybe comunication problems?  does your isp filter IRC?
130 2011-05-05 02:59:32 <sacarlson> if your here now on the same system than that must not be it
131 2011-05-05 02:59:45 <tippenein> never had a problem before.  I used to have bitcoin on this same computer running windows
132 2011-05-05 03:00:51 <sacarlson> tippenein: user privige problem?  I guess to start try sudo netstat -pant  and see if you see connections on port 8333 and port 8332
133 2011-05-05 03:01:09 <tippenein> howbout sudo bitcoin?
134 2011-05-05 03:01:23 <sacarlson> tippenein: that shouldn't be required
135 2011-05-05 03:01:44 <sacarlson> if those ports are open you won't need sudo to run bitcoin
136 2011-05-05 03:02:06 <tippenein> 8333 and 8332 are not shown in netstat -pant
137 2011-05-05 03:02:30 <sacarlson> are there any 18333 or 18332 ?
138 2011-05-05 03:02:45 <tippenein> nothing about 5145
139 2011-05-05 03:03:04 <sacarlson> you did run sudo netstat -pant  since netstat require sudo
140 2011-05-05 03:04:10 <tippenein> yes
141 2011-05-05 03:04:46 <sacarlson> you can take a look at the log file I think it's in /home/youruser/.bitcoin  and see what error it must have passed to not be able to open those ports
142 2011-05-05 03:06:40 <sacarlson> you might check the user priv in System>administration>user and groups>advanced
143 2011-05-05 03:07:47 <sacarlson> and make sure allow connect to wireless and ethernet networks is checked
144 2011-05-05 03:07:47 <tippenein> that's the ticket
145 2011-05-05 03:07:54 <tippenein> thanks
146 2011-05-05 03:08:10 <tippenein> msg me your bc addr?
147 2011-05-05 03:08:27 <sacarlson> tippenein: cool ok just a moment
148 2011-05-05 03:08:38 <tippenein> i'm gonna climb mtgox
149 2011-05-05 03:08:48 <gjs278> ;;bc,mtgox
150 2011-05-05 03:08:48 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":3.5699,"low":3.3,"vol":13081,"buy":3.42,"sell":3.445,"last":3.4449}}
151 2011-05-05 03:09:32 <tippenein> <---should've bought when they were $.3 / bc  : (
152 2011-05-05 03:14:25 <sacarlson> tippenein: my bc address 12XFAN22VQFNcYwa9iNB3wZBTAFvvizK3j
153 2011-05-05 03:20:07 <tippenein> is dwolla a good way to transfer funds?
154 2011-05-05 03:25:43 <nanotube> tippenein: people seem to like it
155 2011-05-05 03:26:07 <tippenein> some ppl seem to like Sarah Palin too.. but that doesn't make it good
156 2011-05-05 03:27:41 <midnightmagic> "it"
157 2011-05-05 03:29:22 <midnightmagic> anyone want some testnet coins?
158 2011-05-05 03:29:25 <midnightmagic> free
159 2011-05-05 03:50:03 <CIA-30> bitcoin: various watch * r5c3a55..878bef supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor-personal/ (config.py bitcoin.py plugin.py): (21 commits) http://tinyurl.com/5sefxl7
160 2011-05-05 03:52:31 <jargon> Ok, I can't do more of the source audit tonight because I have court in the morning and may potentially end up in prison again for dumbass crap I didn't even do.
161 2011-05-05 03:53:12 <jargon> I will however just trace that null root Teller memory model pointer.
162 2011-05-05 03:53:41 <jargon> It sounds to me like the developers of bitcoin don't even understand their own code.
163 2011-05-05 03:54:08 <doublec> the current developers didn't write it
164 2011-05-05 03:54:10 <luke-jr> jargon: Satoshi wrote the original code
165 2011-05-05 03:54:16 <luke-jr> jargon: and he's gone forever
166 2011-05-05 03:55:05 <midnightmagic> prison, jesus. what did you do?
167 2011-05-05 03:55:09 <midnightmagic> er..  not do?
168 2011-05-05 03:56:07 <citiz3n> what do you mean satoshi is gone?
169 2011-05-05 03:57:11 <doublec> satoshi is no longer involved in bitcoin
170 2011-05-05 03:57:18 <citiz3n> link?
171 2011-05-05 03:57:31 <luke-jr> &
172 2011-05-05 03:57:58 <citiz3n> i thought he was still involved somewhat
173 2011-05-05 03:58:04 <citiz3n> i never heard that he walked away from it
174 2011-05-05 03:58:10 <doublec> citiz3n: see https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto
175 2011-05-05 03:58:22 <doublec> "His involvement in the Bitcoin project had tapered and by late 2010 it has ended. The most recent messages reportedly indicate that Satoshi is "gone for good""
176 2011-05-05 03:58:31 <doublec> there's a link to a cite there
177 2011-05-05 03:59:20 <doublec> see here http://veritas.maximilianeum.ch/bitcoin/irc/logs/2011/04/26#l1530
178 2011-05-05 04:00:12 <jargon> line 217 in db.h: DbTxn* ptxn = NULL;
179 2011-05-05 04:00:38 <jargon> I don't know if it is 216 or 217 due to line numbering in the github viewer being mis-aligned
180 2011-05-05 04:01:04 <jrabbit> lol satoshi conspiracy.
181 2011-05-05 04:01:09 <doublec> jargon: what about that line?
182 2011-05-05 04:01:22 <jargon> That is the only series issue I have seen due to only doing a partial audit on that single source-file thus far.
183 2011-05-05 04:01:28 <doublec> it's 217 btw
184 2011-05-05 04:01:28 <jargon> serious issue*
185 2011-05-05 04:01:36 <doublec> in what way?
186 2011-05-05 04:02:31 <jargon> It is a Teller memory modeled database
187 2011-05-05 04:02:56 <jargon> You don't index the root pointer as NULL, ever.
188 2011-05-05 04:04:19 <doublec> That code creates a new transaction and gets a pointer to it
189 2011-05-05 04:04:22 <doublec> how is that wrong again?
190 2011-05-05 04:04:40 <doublec> and how does it relate to "index the root pointer as NULL"
191 2011-05-05 04:06:58 <jargon> just give me an hour to manually trace
192 2011-05-05 04:08:28 <jargon> first-off, the 'vector' directive is obsolete.
193 2011-05-05 04:08:44 <doublec> jargon: what 'vector' directive?
194 2011-05-05 04:08:57 <jargon> line 17
195 2011-05-05 04:09:02 <jargon> db.h
196 2011-05-05 04:09:13 <doublec> line 17 is empty in db.h
197 2011-05-05 04:09:43 <jargon> extern vector<unsigned char> vchDefaultKey;
198 2011-05-05 04:09:47 <doublec> the only use of vector in db.h is the standard C++ vector class
199 2011-05-05 04:09:53 <doublec> how is that obsolete?
200 2011-05-05 04:10:12 <jargon> nobody has improved the backend for vector in 20 some years.
201 2011-05-05 04:10:37 <doublec> ah, I see
202 2011-05-05 04:10:42 <doublec> you have no idea what you're talking about
203 2011-05-05 04:10:44 <doublec> now I understand
204 2011-05-05 04:11:18 <PLATO> PLATO> there's a thread about distributed exchange discussion
205 2011-05-05 04:11:22 <doublec> either that, or I'm completely misunderstanding you
206 2011-05-05 04:11:22 <PLATO> PLATO> if anyone is interested in working on this, I have set up a mailing list for project discussion
207 2011-05-05 04:11:25 <PLATO> PLATO> details here: http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=7096.msg107062#msg107062
208 2011-05-05 04:11:35 <jargon> Vapor was a cycle-sharing distributed database that was pretty similar to what bitcoin is hush-hush striving to be.
209 2011-05-05 04:11:49 <doublec> Vapor is what you've been inhaling
210 2011-05-05 04:11:57 <doublec> you should sell it for btc
211 2011-05-05 04:12:12 <jargon> Vapor's Teller was ridonculously faster than vector
212 2011-05-05 04:12:32 <doublec> a vector is an array of data
213 2011-05-05 04:12:33 <jargon> You are trying to combine vector with Teller. it don't work that way without issues down the road.
214 2011-05-05 04:12:43 <doublec> ok, you definitely are tolling
215 2011-05-05 04:12:45 <doublec> trolling
216 2011-05-05 04:12:48 <doublec> sorry for the noise
217 2011-05-05 04:12:53 <jargon> No, I am sorry to say I am not.
218 2011-05-05 04:13:21 <jargon> Also, vector uses ass-tons more memory than the Teller method.
219 2011-05-05 04:13:45 <jargon> ..in the long run
220 2011-05-05 04:14:46 <jargon> you are trying to make a Teller DB using a vector back-end.
221 2011-05-05 04:14:55 <jargon> That is a major no-no.
222 2011-05-05 04:15:46 <jargon> It is as if someone started work on that, then halfassed a compile.
223 2011-05-05 04:27:52 <jargon> For now I am starting to trace whether a NULL Key/Value passed to the entire p2p will hijack the entire db.
224 2011-05-05 04:28:37 <jargon> Doing so may induce everyone's wallets into having zero value.
225 2011-05-05 04:28:57 <jargon> (meaning all coins are deleted in the entire p2p)
226 2011-05-05 04:29:19 <PLATO> o.O
227 2011-05-05 04:36:18 <jargon> yeah the data integrity protection in bitcoin is total crap
228 2011-05-05 04:39:02 <wumpus> it's not even possible to delete coins
229 2011-05-05 04:43:21 <wumpus> data integrity is actually good, as everything is hashed with the previous block; it is similar to how version control systems such as git/mercurial work... unless you can rewind the block chain, there is no way to make intermediate blocks/coins disappear
230 2011-05-05 04:51:55 <jargon> collisions and procedure jmp's
231 2011-05-05 04:52:15 <jargon> two different ways to do it
232 2011-05-05 04:55:11 <jargon> plus you don't even have so much as an event chain integrity checksum
233 2011-05-05 04:55:47 <jargon> The hashes don't mean dick.
234 2011-05-05 04:57:10 <jargon> you don't even have a register of flags for what processes did what under which forks.
235 2011-05-05 04:57:54 <jargon> You have zero integrity protection against middle-end procedure jumps
236 2011-05-05 04:58:51 <nanotube> jargon: please file bug reports on the github issue tracker?
237 2011-05-05 04:59:03 <jargon> in-otherwords, your stack is wide open to corruption
238 2011-05-05 04:59:16 <jargon> nanotube i am doing an audit, not a bug report
239 2011-05-05 05:01:42 <nanotube> an audit, if it finds anything, would normally result in bug reports.
240 2011-05-05 05:01:50 <jargon> I freelance for the United States DARPA TTO
241 2011-05-05 05:02:21 <jargon> If anyone knows how to properly do an audit, it is me.
242 2011-05-05 05:03:15 <ersi> jargon: DERP DERP DERP
243 2011-05-05 05:03:27 <jargon> nanotube, the entire db.h is jacked to Hell --and that is the only source-file I have looked at in this audit so far.
244 2011-05-05 05:03:56 <DD-> i derp for the US Derpie derp
245 2011-05-05 05:04:00 <ersi> wumpus: Be aware, jargon is a trolololo.
246 2011-05-05 05:04:33 <jargon> it lacks self-detection of procedure chain compromise.
247 2011-05-05 05:04:45 <DD-> yes
248 2011-05-05 05:04:54 <DD-> and backward encryptions methods
249 2011-05-05 05:05:11 <wumpus> ah, right,I see now
250 2011-05-05 05:05:25 <wumpus> nice technobabble, why don't you write a scifi novel instead :)
251 2011-05-05 05:05:50 <JFK911> ;;bc,mtgox
252 2011-05-05 05:05:51 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":3.5699,"low":3.3,"vol":13026,"buy":3.42,"sell":3.445,"last":3.42}}
253 2011-05-05 05:06:31 <jargon> And program that doesn't detect a direct jump into an given procedure of-which skirts the external API, is dead in the water these days.
254 2011-05-05 05:06:48 <jargon> Any program*
255 2011-05-05 05:07:34 <diki> luke, why has my balance been reset?
256 2011-05-05 05:07:48 <jargon> Fawkes@Home
257 2011-05-05 05:09:41 <jargon> using a hash as a security measure is obsolete
258 2011-05-05 05:10:40 <diki> and what isnt?
259 2011-05-05 05:11:01 <jargon> You even realize you have a turing-complete interpreter up in this bitch?
260 2011-05-05 05:11:23 <DD-> yes
261 2011-05-05 05:11:24 <diki> i use a triple md5 hashed salted password
262 2011-05-05 05:11:39 <wumpus> not only that, it can even fly a helicopter if connected right
263 2011-05-05 05:12:12 <DD-> we did build in a defense system against portal guns tho , u can find it in portal.h
264 2011-05-05 05:12:17 <DD-> very well start of the art
265 2011-05-05 05:13:15 <wumpus> yes the state of the art defense systems inside bitcoin even surprise the secret cults of cthulhu
266 2011-05-05 05:14:40 <wumpus> but the layman might not be able to distinghuish them as they work very subtle and use colored quantum hashing with unicorn dust
267 2011-05-05 05:15:40 <DD-> ah damn , didnt know that you pushed the unicorn dust version live
268 2011-05-05 05:15:44 <DD-> thought it was still in testing
269 2011-05-05 05:20:57 <wumpus> ah, testing, I knew we forgot something
270 2011-05-05 05:21:29 <wumpus> nah, who tests weapons of mass distraction anyway
271 2011-05-05 05:21:39 <jargon> You aren't even using the Keal Demux method for base58, and you really think this crap can't have it's hashing out-run?
272 2011-05-05 05:22:33 <wumpus> yes the Keal Demux would give it that extra 'oomph'
273 2011-05-05 05:22:35 <pirrr> I use 0.3.19beta and maybe you already know this, but when I suspend my PC and wake it up again (a few times), over time I lose all my connections and have to restart bitcoin. Soneone might want to look into that?
274 2011-05-05 05:22:49 <pirrr> someone*
275 2011-05-05 05:23:03 <jargon> Keal Demux instantly solves each digit, instead of cycling through counting with a remainder.
276 2011-05-05 05:23:40 <wumpus> it instantly solves digits? that must be heavy acid, man
277 2011-05-05 05:23:54 <jargon> Just Google it you fat retard fuck,
278 2011-05-05 05:23:58 <jargon> :P
279 2011-05-05 05:24:27 <DD-> how about we feed Keal Demux a base quantum phased twelve flip-flop duplex , and send it back in time?
280 2011-05-05 05:24:33 <nanotube> pirrr: first, try latest version... and if that persists, file an issue on github (i think it may be a known problem though... so check)
281 2011-05-05 05:24:52 <jargon> Keal Demux works with irrational bases too, assuming you have a nice little laser lab.
282 2011-05-05 05:24:56 <wumpus> pirrr: sleep mode causes all network connections to be broken, which makes sense, but I'm less sure why they are not reestablished
283 2011-05-05 05:25:23 <pirrr> Allright, I'll check
284 2011-05-05 05:26:12 <wumpus> I knew nature was pulling a base58 behind our backs, we should have known all along
285 2011-05-05 05:26:33 <wumpus> maybe you should patch the source and introduce this wonderful technology
286 2011-05-05 05:26:54 <jargon> If you have a laserlab, you can solve any base-foo digit of pi in a single step with Keal Demux
287 2011-05-05 05:27:22 <DD-> i got a druglab , will that work?
288 2011-05-05 05:27:52 <jargon> You can even detect fluctuations in temporal space itself due to any given digit being deformed.
289 2011-05-05 05:28:32 <DD-> that wont work
290 2011-05-05 05:28:57 <DD-> what if space anomalies turn up with broccoli ?
291 2011-05-05 05:28:57 <wumpus> depends on the kind of drugs, DD-, I think you need hallucinogenics to remove all cognitive barriers and experience the universe as it really is, and then patch it into the timespace fabric
292 2011-05-05 05:29:16 <jargon> Watch the youtube video under mediaplague regarding your "that wont work" jackass. :)
293 2011-05-05 05:29:24 <DD-> again , the broccoli will catch you in the base58
294 2011-05-05 05:29:36 <jargon> my show on Youtube is whack as fuck
295 2011-05-05 05:29:52 <jargon> But there is a lot of ridiculously advanced mathematics in there.
296 2011-05-05 05:30:20 <wumpus> yeah of course it will work, but fr some reason the cams are always of flakey quality and the person holding the cam can't hold it still, so effectively you see nothing
297 2011-05-05 05:30:31 <jargon> It even shows how to grow a specific biological weapon.
298 2011-05-05 05:31:33 <DD-> does this biological weapon happends to have anything todo with broccoli?
299 2011-05-05 05:31:36 <jargon> ..out of common fridge items.
300 2011-05-05 05:31:46 <jargon> no
301 2011-05-05 05:31:50 <wumpus> that's good, everyone should have biological weapons
302 2011-05-05 05:31:56 <wumpus> to protect against other biological weapons
303 2011-05-05 05:32:41 <wumpus> I usually just grow them out of my nose when I am lazy
304 2011-05-05 05:32:53 <_ape> i've been the victim of biological weapons in several elevators/movie theaters
305 2011-05-05 05:33:49 <Props> where's a quantum computer when you need one
306 2011-05-05 05:33:55 <jargon> People are starting to catch on that pretty much everything in the Supervillain Sabbath show is real despite how surreal.
307 2011-05-05 05:35:34 <wumpus> which isn't surprising, as we all know, everything is true
308 2011-05-05 05:36:03 <jargon> I even had one dude throwing death threats my way over the show.
309 2011-05-05 05:36:09 <DD-> ah a famous Keal Demux quote
310 2011-05-05 05:36:13 <DD-> 1 of my favorite
311 2011-05-05 05:36:39 <jargon> And yes, I did Fukushima, not the jews.
312 2011-05-05 05:45:05 <jargon> You can't even fathom the complex of such a device as-to wormhole a mile tall tsunami around Hawaii and into Japan a year later.
313 2011-05-05 05:46:32 <DD-> i can phantom is tho , dunno if thats any good
314 2011-05-05 05:48:08 <jargon> crunch the numbers, see that the origin and destination don't align in the Solar calendar.
315 2011-05-05 05:50:10 <wumpus> but that's because your computatins don't take into account earth's second, dark moon Lilith
316 2011-05-05 05:50:59 <DD-> or the great moon from saturn , Titan
317 2011-05-05 05:55:48 <jargon> There is a second Earth on the far side of the sun.
318 2011-05-05 05:55:53 <jargon> ..same orbit path.
319 2011-05-05 05:56:22 <DD-> yes
320 2011-05-05 05:56:24 <wumpus> how conveniently out of sight
321 2011-05-05 05:56:32 <DD-> between the space mirror , into the vortex!
322 2011-05-05 05:57:41 <jargon> NASA has images of it, using a probe launched perpendicular to the Solar disc.
323 2011-05-05 05:58:15 <jargon> Never thought beyond two dimensions did you?
324 2011-05-05 05:58:16 <wumpus> ssh, that's where the unicorns live, now everyone will go there to harvest unicorn meat and sell it on ebay
325 2011-05-05 05:58:23 <DD-> THE DUST!
326 2011-05-05 05:58:28 <DD-> we must save the dust
327 2011-05-05 06:00:17 <jargon> ..and yes I have made a star system model which did not follow a ring of orbits, but an ordered set of complex orbits.
328 2011-05-05 06:00:26 <jargon> ..in stability of each other.
329 2011-05-05 06:12:40 <DD-> all that for the TTO uh?
330 2011-05-05 06:15:16 <jargon> Galaxies are expendable.
331 2011-05-05 06:15:26 <zebrah_> jargon
332 2011-05-05 06:15:37 <jargon> We already annihilated the Crab Nebula into quantum foam last year.
333 2011-05-05 06:15:57 <zebrah_> Joe I know you're in here
334 2011-05-05 06:16:12 <jargon> Well do you want to talk bitcoin or run the log or what?
335 2011-05-05 06:17:03 <zebrah_> I want a lot of things. But mostly I was looking for joe
336 2011-05-05 06:18:22 <diki> i only know of joe from vivthomas
337 2011-05-05 06:18:51 <zebrah_> Hmm I don't think he's here. I don't even know his name on here. So cya
338 2011-05-05 06:25:28 <gjs278> ;;tell Diablo-D3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125318 it's $154 with mail in rebate, I just got mine today it looks pretty solid
339 2011-05-05 06:25:38 <gribble> Error: I haven't seen Diablo-D3, I'll let you do the telling.
340 2011-05-05 06:25:40 <gjs278> gribble you faggot robot
341 2011-05-05 06:31:06 <DD-> now u done it gjs278 , you made gribble upset
342 2011-05-05 06:31:14 <gjs278> fuck gribble
343 2011-05-05 06:31:18 <gjs278> the one time I want to use ;;tell
344 2011-05-05 06:31:20 <gjs278> he can't do it
345 2011-05-05 06:32:31 <jargon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ft6gNYh0Xk eight-inch tall robot makes f- coffee
346 2011-05-05 06:39:34 <molecular> davex__, "<davex__> molecular", yes?
347 2011-05-05 06:43:35 <diki> ;;bc,gen 340000
348 2011-05-05 06:43:48 <diki> ;;bc
349 2011-05-05 06:44:58 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 340000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 3.11827513228 BTC per day and 0.129928130512 BTC per hour.
350 2011-05-05 06:44:59 <gribble> Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
351 2011-05-05 06:52:01 <dirtyfilthy> oh when did the karma system come online in the forums
352 2011-05-05 06:54:53 <gjs278> ;;bc,mtgox
353 2011-05-05 06:55:00 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":3.5699,"low":3.3,"vol":13052,"buy":3.4201,"sell":3.445,"last":3.4201}}
354 2011-05-05 06:56:26 <diki> ;;bc,calc
355 2011-05-05 06:56:27 <gribble> (bc,calc <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo The average time to generate a block at $1 Khps, given current difficulty of [bc,diff], is [time elapsed [math calc 1/((2**224-1)/[bc,diff]*$1*1000/2**256)]]".
356 2011-05-05 06:56:34 <diki> ;;bc,calc 340000
357 2011-05-05 06:56:35 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 340000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 2 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 49 minutes, and 41 seconds
358 2011-05-05 06:56:46 <diki> ;;bc,calc 342000
359 2011-05-05 06:56:48 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 342000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 2 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 34 minutes, and 39 seconds
360 2011-05-05 06:57:56 <diki> ;;bc,calc 345000
361 2011-05-05 06:57:58 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 345000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 2 weeks, 1 day, 19 hours, 15 minutes, and 3 seconds
362 2011-05-05 06:58:07 <diki> ;;bc,calc 350000
363 2011-05-05 06:58:08 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 350000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 2 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 49 minutes, and 58 seconds
364 2011-05-05 07:00:54 <gribble> Alias bc,avgprc, Alias bc,bcm, Alias bc,blocks, Alias bc,btcex, Alias bc,calc, Alias bc,calcd, Alias bc,channels, Alias bc,diff, Alias bc,eligius, Alias bc,estimate, Alias bc,gen, Alias bc,gend, Alias bc,help, Alias bc,hextarget, Alias bc,labs, Alias bc,lbs, Alias bc,lukepool, Alias bc,mtgox, Alias bc,nexttarget, Alias bc,poolstats, Alias bc,prob, Alias bc,stats, Alias bc,timetonext, Alias (1 more message)
365 2011-05-05 07:00:54 <thedrs> ;;bc,help
366 2011-05-05 07:01:05 <thedrs> ;;bc,gen 180000
367 2011-05-05 07:01:06 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 180000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 1.65085154062 BTC per day and 0.0687854808592 BTC per hour.
368 2011-05-05 07:04:48 <diki> ;;bc,eligius
369 2011-05-05 07:04:50 <gribble> 14688788.1523
370 2011-05-05 07:06:32 <thedrs> 14Ghash not bad
371 2011-05-05 07:07:44 <thedrs> ;;bc,gen 8000
372 2011-05-05 07:07:45 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 8000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 0.0733711795832 BTC per day and 0.00305713248263 BTC per hour.
373 2011-05-05 07:10:22 <eps> ;;bc,stats
374 2011-05-05 07:10:24 <gribble> Current Blocks: 121980 | Current Difficulty: 109670.13329248 | Next Difficulty At Block: 122975 | Next Difficulty In: 995 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 3 hours, 16 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 147838.93300532
375 2011-05-05 07:10:39 <eps> ;;bc,poolstats
376 2011-05-05 07:10:40 <gribble> {"ghashes_ps": "283.072", "shares": 223374, "active_workers": 2333, "round_duration": "0:56:20", "score": "138793.4033", "round_started": "2011-05-05 08:14:03", "shares_cdf": "86.96", "getwork_ps": 771}
377 2011-05-05 07:14:20 <cdecker> ;;bc,gen 343000
378 2011-05-05 07:14:20 <sgornick> Anyone know anything about this?   http://www.bitcoinplus.com/generate
379 2011-05-05 07:14:21 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 343000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 3.14578932463 BTC per day and 0.131074555193 BTC per hour.
380 2011-05-05 07:15:10 <diki> ;;bc,calc 6000
381 2011-05-05 07:15:11 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 6000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 2 years, 25 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 55 minutes, and 39 seconds
382 2011-05-05 07:20:31 <jargon> Oh, that's right, javascript.
383 2011-05-05 07:20:54 <jargon> never thought of that, did you?
384 2011-05-05 07:20:57 <wumpus> sgornick: seems to start a java applet when you click generate
385 2011-05-05 07:21:29 <jargon> Dude, I wrote an exact clone of DoomII in javascript, trust me, java is shit
386 2011-05-05 07:22:03 <wumpus> wonder how well CPU mining in a JRE will do, probably even slower than normal CPU mining, but heh, it's a fun idea
387 2011-05-05 07:22:13 <wumpus> yes webGL  is nice
388 2011-05-05 07:23:00 <jargon> I wonder how well it will do in BlitzBasic
389 2011-05-05 07:23:11 <jargon> (considering BB is 9000x faster than C+)
390 2011-05-05 07:23:29 <wumpus> hehe
391 2011-05-05 07:24:33 <jargon> most of your mining time is wasted in Base58
392 2011-05-05 07:25:35 <jargon> As I said before, using Keal Demux instead of your shitty Base58 crap that looks like a 12yo wrote it, would annihilate damn near 100% of the lag.
393 2011-05-05 07:27:31 <cosurgi> ;;isitdown bitcoinwatch.com
394 2011-05-05 07:27:32 <gribble> http://bitcoinwatch.com Is Up -> Check if your website is up or down?
395 2011-05-05 07:27:37 <cosurgi> ;;isitdown mtgox.com
396 2011-05-05 07:27:37 <gjs278> it's working for me
397 2011-05-05 07:27:38 <gribble> http://mtgox.com Is Up -> Check if your website is up or down?
398 2011-05-05 07:28:49 <diki> ;
399 2011-05-05 07:28:51 <diki> ;;
400 2011-05-05 07:28:54 <diki> ;; help
401 2011-05-05 07:28:55 <gribble> The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
402 2011-05-05 07:29:34 <jargon> Well, I'm gonna soup this bitch up and potentially generate severalt thousand bitcoins a minute.
403 2011-05-05 07:30:16 <jargon> That's what happens when you piss off the TTO with your bullshit lame coders with a Fawkes@Home client, they rob you blind.
404 2011-05-05 07:30:44 <DD-> Good luck! send a postcard when ur done
405 2011-05-05 07:31:43 <jargon> Vapor's gonna kick your ass flat to the ground
406 2011-05-05 07:31:57 <jargon> (Vapor is the "original" bitcoin)
407 2011-05-05 07:32:28 <wumpus> more coding, less talk please :)
408 2011-05-05 07:36:53 <molecular> I'm trying to use amdovdrvctrl on a remote miner. setting DISPLAY=mymachine:0.0 results in no graphics card being found through adl, setting DISPLAY=:0 however results in me not seing pretty wx gui of the app. any ideas?
409 2011-05-05 07:37:22 <molecular> can I pass wx a different DISPLAY at init somehow?
410 2011-05-05 07:38:05 <sipa> molecular: afaik amdovdrctrl cannot be used on a remote display
411 2011-05-05 07:38:16 <sipa> what you can do howver is create a config file, and use it in batch mode
412 2011-05-05 07:38:21 <sipa> (without gui)
413 2011-05-05 07:38:52 <molecular> is there documentation or sample config file?
414 2011-05-05 07:39:08 <molecular> damn, who connects displays to their graphics card anyways?
415 2011-05-05 07:39:37 <gjs278> molecular what are you teying to do with it?
416 2011-05-05 07:39:40 <gjs278> lower your memclock?
417 2011-05-05 07:40:10 <gjs278> anyways
418 2011-05-05 07:40:15 <gjs278> you need to specify your adapter index
419 2011-05-05 07:40:16 <gjs278> like
420 2011-05-05 07:40:18 <gjs278> DISPLAY=:0.1 ./AMDOverdriveCtrl --adapter-index=3
421 2011-05-05 07:40:35 <molecular> no, I can lower memclock with my own tool ;). Just wanted to check out amdovdrvctrl out of curiosity
422 2011-05-05 07:40:40 <gjs278> but more importantly, you should set it up once, save your defaults, run it, ctrl+c it, and the memclock will stick
423 2011-05-05 07:40:41 <gjs278> oh
424 2011-05-05 07:40:45 <gjs278> what tool do you use
425 2011-05-05 07:40:47 <gjs278> for memclocks
426 2011-05-05 07:41:08 <gjs278> also amdoverctrl fucks with your fan
427 2011-05-05 07:41:20 <gjs278> like the second you actually get it running, it will lower your fan to like 30% on you
428 2011-05-05 07:41:34 <gjs278> and then you have to jack it back up really quick
429 2011-05-05 07:41:39 <molecular> gjs278, this wont work, I need DISPLAY=mydesktopmachine:0
430 2011-05-05 07:41:48 <molecular> gjs278, it wont even initialize adl
431 2011-05-05 07:41:53 <gjs278> you're lucky
432 2011-05-05 07:41:55 <sipa> molecular: i can give you mine
433 2011-05-05 07:42:04 <molecular> your what?
434 2011-05-05 07:42:22 <gjs278> if you can get it connected without the gui
435 2011-05-05 07:42:25 <gjs278> use the batch file method
436 2011-05-05 07:42:35 <sipa> molecular: http://pastebin.com/1bQKj4x8
437 2011-05-05 07:42:37 <molecular> thing is: I _want_ to see the gui, that's the whole point
438 2011-05-05 07:42:43 <gjs278> no you dont
439 2011-05-05 07:42:44 <cosurgi> molecular: what tool do you use to lower memclock? AMDOverdriveCtrl isn't working for me :(
440 2011-05-05 07:42:48 <gjs278> I'll screenshot it for you
441 2011-05-05 07:43:01 <molecular> cosurgi, I hacked one myself using adl calls
442 2011-05-05 07:43:12 <cosurgi> molecular: can you share it?
443 2011-05-05 07:43:14 <gjs278> it offers nothing except memclock lowering and crappy fan control
444 2011-05-05 07:43:23 <molecular> cosurgi, it was initially a PID fan regulator by ArtForz
445 2011-05-05 07:43:25 <gjs278> you can't overvolt
446 2011-05-05 07:43:42 <molecular> cosurgi, sure, but you have to set the values hardcoded in the code ;|
447 2011-05-05 07:43:50 <cosurgi> molecular: I remember he has done soimething like that.
448 2011-05-05 07:43:56 <cosurgi> molecular: no problem with that ;)
449 2011-05-05 07:44:12 <gjs278> if the app is remote, you have to use something like ssh X forwarding to see the gui for it
450 2011-05-05 07:44:50 <sipa> gjs278: but then it will also change the values of the X server you're connecting to
451 2011-05-05 07:44:53 <gjs278> otherwise you're just going to get the text feedback of adl
452 2011-05-05 07:45:02 <sipa> instead of the one on the machine it is running on
453 2011-05-05 07:45:07 <gjs278> yeah
454 2011-05-05 07:45:08 <molecular> gjs278, I am. other apps run fine. problem is: set DISPLAY=:0 to make adl work or set DISPLAY=desktop:0 to make wx gui forward?
455 2011-05-05 07:45:40 <molecular> gjs278, oh wait sorry, you might have a point with the x forwarding...
456 2011-05-05 07:45:50 <gjs278> yeah if you try DISPLAY=desktop:0
457 2011-05-05 07:45:55 <gjs278> it would have to go through X forwarding
458 2011-05-05 07:45:55 <molecular> but doesnt that map to localhost:10.0 or somehting?
459 2011-05-05 07:46:29 <gjs278> you're trying to read the settings of a remote machine with adl right
460 2011-05-05 07:46:29 <molecular> if I just ssh to a machine and xclock shows on local display, is that "using x forwarding"?
461 2011-05-05 07:46:31 <gjs278> not locally
462 2011-05-05 07:47:00 <molecular> gjs278, no, I want to run amdoverdrive on the machine that has the 5970
463 2011-05-05 07:47:07 <gjs278> and that's the remote one right
464 2011-05-05 07:47:11 <molecular> but show the wx gui stuff on other machine
465 2011-05-05 07:47:20 <molecular> remote to me, but local to adl
466 2011-05-05 07:47:23 <gjs278> yeah
467 2011-05-05 07:47:37 <gjs278> you have to ssh -X it or whatever
468 2011-05-05 07:47:40 <molecular> adl works fine when I set DISPLAY=:0
469 2011-05-05 07:47:44 <gjs278> the xclock method should be okay
470 2011-05-05 07:47:45 <molecular> gjs278, I'll try
471 2011-05-05 07:48:07 <molecular> I think it does X-forwarding by default (due to my ssh config)
472 2011-05-05 07:48:22 <gjs278> yeah for me I get
473 2011-05-05 07:48:24 <gjs278> Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated
474 2011-05-05 07:48:39 <sipa> molecular: it won't work
475 2011-05-05 07:48:53 <sipa> either the GUI appearts and you're changing values for the screen you're seeing the GUI on
476 2011-05-05 07:49:09 <sipa> or it will appear on the X of the machine you're trying to edit, and you won't see it
477 2011-05-05 07:49:19 <gjs278> in all seriousness, you may want to just install vnc and do it that way
478 2011-05-05 07:49:34 <sipa> that's the way to go if you really want the gui
479 2011-05-05 07:49:35 <gjs278> because then you can vnc to the remote machine, and pull up the GUI with display variables
480 2011-05-05 07:49:53 <molecular> gjs278, thought about that, yes
481 2011-05-05 07:49:58 <gjs278> you can even use X11vnc
482 2011-05-05 07:50:03 <gjs278> which won't spawn a new session
483 2011-05-05 07:50:06 <molecular> but still: no way to init wx subsystem to a given display using code?
484 2011-05-05 07:50:24 <gjs278> only forwarding I guess
485 2011-05-05 07:50:36 <gjs278> I've gotten it to work like one time for just a notepad app
486 2011-05-05 07:50:39 <gjs278> then I never tried it again
487 2011-05-05 07:50:45 <molecular> heh
488 2011-05-05 07:51:30 <molecular> so I can use x11vnc on miner machine and just vncviewer on my desktop?
489 2011-05-05 07:51:35 <gjs278> yes
490 2011-05-05 07:51:45 <gjs278> and that will give you the active X session of your miner
491 2011-05-05 07:51:45 <molecular> ok, will do that, thx
492 2011-05-05 07:51:49 <molecular> nice
493 2011-05-05 07:51:56 <gjs278> you may have to specify DISPLAY when initially running x11vnc
494 2011-05-05 07:52:06 <gjs278> you want to do x11vnc -usepw -forever
495 2011-05-05 07:52:10 <gjs278> -usepw for obvious reasons
496 2011-05-05 07:52:26 <gjs278> and -forever so that the vnc sessions keeps going instead of dying the first time you kill a client connection
497 2011-05-05 07:52:47 <molecular> thx, I slightly remember having used it that way couple years back
498 2011-05-05 07:52:55 <diki> so if i want to grab a whole html page with curl, how do i store that information if i dont know the size of the page?
499 2011-05-05 07:53:07 <gjs278> I used it today to watch one my 5870's crash during mining on 11.4 drivers
500 2011-05-05 07:53:14 <gjs278> diki
501 2011-05-05 07:53:16 <gjs278> what language
502 2011-05-05 07:53:21 <diki> c++
503 2011-05-05 07:53:30 <gjs278> I don't think you have to know the size
504 2011-05-05 07:53:39 <gjs278> you just have to give a variable with enough space
505 2011-05-05 07:53:48 <diki> how much?
506 2011-05-05 07:53:48 <gjs278> if that even
507 2011-05-05 07:53:51 <gjs278> who knows
508 2011-05-05 07:53:57 <gjs278> pages arent that big
509 2011-05-05 07:53:58 <molecular> gjs278, I switched from 10.x to 11.2 -> should I expect miner crash?
510 2011-05-05 07:54:02 <gjs278> nah
511 2011-05-05 07:54:05 <diki> yes i know
512 2011-05-05 07:54:07 <gjs278> I only got crash for
513 2011-05-05 07:54:09 <gjs278> 11.4
514 2011-05-05 07:54:11 <gjs278> back to 11.3 for me
515 2011-05-05 07:54:18 <gjs278> because 11.3 is the only version that gave me no cpu usage
516 2011-05-05 07:54:27 <molecular> does it make any speed difference which driver one uses?
517 2011-05-05 07:54:32 <gjs278> nah
518 2011-05-05 07:54:40 <gjs278> the only major player was using opencl 2.1
519 2011-05-05 07:54:42 <molecular> ok, so if it works: dont fiddle with it ;)
520 2011-05-05 07:54:46 <gjs278> basically
521 2011-05-05 07:55:33 <cosurgi> molecular: did you get my reply on /msg ?
522 2011-05-05 07:55:55 <diki> So what other method is there besides Sleep to make my thread sleep?
523 2011-05-05 07:56:43 <diki> so it doesnt take cpu time for looping
524 2011-05-05 07:56:49 <diki> or not much anyway
525 2011-05-05 08:02:49 <UukGoblin> lulz jimbobway put out the heavy artillery
526 2011-05-05 08:03:06 <UukGoblin> "he's right cause he works for google"
527 2011-05-05 08:03:15 <UukGoblin> "and that's what satoshi would've wanted anyway"
528 2011-05-05 08:03:30 <UukGoblin> gee I really don't want to start a fight with bitcoin community...
529 2011-05-05 08:07:08 <sipa> UukGoblin: though i generally agree with mike, that argument from jimbobway isn't a very good one
530 2011-05-05 08:07:50 <UukGoblin> sipa, what solution for timestamping would you propose?
531 2011-05-05 08:08:05 <UukGoblin> sipa, cause a separate blockchain doesn't make much sense for me for timestamping
532 2011-05-05 08:08:35 <UukGoblin> if you don't want to waste more time on this discussion that's fine, I also have some work to do, actually
533 2011-05-05 08:10:51 <Beffjaker> Hello Yall
534 2011-05-05 08:11:51 <Beffjaker> i have a question about moving my wallet...
535 2011-05-05 08:13:05 <UukGoblin> 42!
536 2011-05-05 08:13:56 <diki> ;;bc,calc 12000000
537 2011-05-05 08:13:58 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 12000000 Khps, given current difficulty of 109670.13329248 , is 10 hours, 54 minutes, and 12 seconds
538 2011-05-05 08:15:16 <sipa> Beffjaker: if you don't ask the question, we won't ever know it, and - by extension - you'll probably not get an answer either
539 2011-05-05 08:16:32 <UukGoblin> 'a reasonable answer'
540 2011-05-05 08:16:39 <UukGoblin> 42 is an answer ;-]
541 2011-05-05 08:16:45 <UukGoblin> just a bit of a useless one
542 2011-05-05 08:16:53 <sipa> an answer? it's *the* answer
543 2011-05-05 08:17:02 <Beffjaker> ok, i'm trying to move my wallet and all adresses to the new user i have created in ubuntu, seems permisions wont let me change ownership of file
544 2011-05-05 08:17:02 <UukGoblin> too :-)
545 2011-05-05 08:17:17 <sipa> Beffjaker: you need root to change ownership
546 2011-05-05 08:17:29 <sipa> but copying + deleting should work fine, actually
547 2011-05-05 08:17:35 <diki> sudo
548 2011-05-05 08:17:40 <Beffjaker> ok simple enough
549 2011-05-05 08:17:57 <Beffjaker> thanks
550 2011-05-05 08:19:09 <Beffjaker> sudo....make sndwich
551 2011-05-05 08:21:06 <UukGoblin> anyways, if we can send out 0 outputs, that means we could easily implements adding a short message along with a bitcoin transaction
552 2011-05-05 08:21:13 <UukGoblin> that's a feature that bitcoin users want
553 2011-05-05 08:22:20 <jargon> I found an additional solution to the "42" marble puzzle, but was too lazy to post it, and forgot what it was.
554 2011-05-05 08:22:50 <UukGoblin> jargon, hahahahah
555 2011-05-05 08:22:58 <UukGoblin> jargon, I like that :-)
556 2011-05-05 08:23:36 <jargon> Think it had to do with anti-stealth technology or something.
557 2011-05-05 08:24:05 <UukGoblin> jargon, could you call up an airstrike for me please?