1 2011-05-14 00:00:07 <MagicalTux> depth channel has no limits
  2 2011-05-14 00:00:13 <MagicalTux> it reports all changes to the depth
  3 2011-05-14 00:00:49 <jaybny> is there a way to get snapshot and then the deltas?
  4 2011-05-14 00:00:54 <Crshman> is it possible to run multiple bitcoind instances from one wallet at the same time?
  5 2011-05-14 00:01:19 <Crshman> in an attempt to make the xmlrpc interface for the singular wallet redundant and highly available
  6 2011-05-14 00:01:47 <MagicalTux> [11:00:49] <jaybny> is there a way to get snapshot and then the deltas? <- planned
  7 2011-05-14 00:01:48 <jaybny> http://twitter.com/newberg_test - this is live - broadcats Btc-MtGox when tehre is a new high/low... and only 1 every 10 minutes...
  8 2011-05-14 00:04:55 <CIA-103> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr * r25afe8de940a gentoo/net-p2p/bitcoin/ (Manifest bitcoin-9999.ebuild): net-p2p/bitcoin-9999: SSE2 support was removed http://tinyurl.com/3sjv9ft
  9 2011-05-14 00:09:22 <sacarlson> Crshman: I'm not sure why you would need multi bitcoind running unless your running multi chain and it that case I keep my wallets separate
 10 2011-05-14 00:10:17 <Crshman> sacarlson: well I want to create a highly available xmlrpc interface for a single wallet, and from my limited knowledge the xmlrpc client is only presented by a bitcoind instance
 11 2011-05-14 00:10:55 <sacarlson> Crshman: you can have muli accounts with bitcoind that's how I handle having many users one the same server
 12 2011-05-14 00:11:17 <Crshman> right, but I don't want to put many users on one server, I want multiple servers so if one goes down all hell doesn't break loose
 13 2011-05-14 00:11:29 <sacarlson> Crshman: I keep all the accounts on a single mysql server
 14 2011-05-14 00:12:10 <sacarlson> Crshman: you could run many servers on many systems and just move the accounts from bitcoind to the mysql account
 15 2011-05-14 00:13:07 <Crshman> so do you just associate all the keys for a single user in the mysql db?
 16 2011-05-14 00:13:19 <sacarlson> Crshman: when the user logs in and creates a seasion it would link him to the servers he will be using
 17 2011-05-14 00:13:20 <Crshman> say you have 5 servers, a single user would have 5 seperate keys from all the 5 servers?
 18 2011-05-14 00:13:28 <Crshman> and if that server goes down
 19 2011-05-14 00:13:30 <Crshman> then what?
 20 2011-05-14 00:13:32 <Crshman> they're kinda stuck
 21 2011-05-14 00:14:27 <sacarlson> Crshman: keys have a lifetime of 24 - 48 hours when he needs to create a new deposit he will be isued a new address
 22 2011-05-14 00:14:52 <Crshman> so you don't persist a bitcoin address to a user account?
 23 2011-05-14 00:15:00 <sacarlson> Crshman: no
 24 2011-05-14 00:15:14 <Crshman> ah
 25 2011-05-14 00:15:42 <Crshman> hmm i hadn't thought of that approach
 26 2011-05-14 00:16:28 <sacarlson> Crshman: you can keep the accounts running much longer but I tell them they need to have the transaction done within that time frame
 27 2011-05-14 00:16:43 <sacarlson> or addresses I should say
 28 2011-05-14 00:16:44 <Crshman> yeah, makes sense
 29 2011-05-14 00:17:35 <Crshman> i guess that's really the only way around it
 30 2011-05-14 00:17:37 <Diablo-D3> ;;bc,mtgox
 31 2011-05-14 00:17:37 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":8.45,"low":6.5001,"vol":59155,"buy":7.9,"sell":8.15,"last":8}}
 32 2011-05-14 00:17:41 <Diablo-D3> jesus christ what
 33 2011-05-14 00:17:50 <Crshman> but honestly I'd rather persist addresses to a user
 34 2011-05-14 00:18:17 <sacarlson> Crshman: well when you are small you can have users with muliple addresses on different servers also
 35 2011-05-14 00:18:53 <sacarlson> Crshman: I'm small so I can persist
 36 2011-05-14 00:19:29 <Crshman> i guess using revolving addresses wouldn't be too hard from a server standpoint, but that would make managing addresses for a user a non option
 37 2011-05-14 00:19:43 <Crshman> which may not be a bad thing
 38 2011-05-14 00:21:30 <luke-jr> Crshman: fwiw, I will probably be doing some kind of wallet synchronization soon
 39 2011-05-14 00:21:42 <Crshman> yeah that's another option
 40 2011-05-14 00:21:52 <sacarlson> Crshman: you might note that's how https://www.mybitcoin.com/ does it
 41 2011-05-14 00:21:53 <Crshman> i have no idea how to go about that, but I haven't spent much time on it
 42 2011-05-14 00:21:58 <Crshman> ah
 43 2011-05-14 00:22:14 <Crshman> actually
 44 2011-05-14 00:22:19 <luke-jr> it's possible to hack bitcoind to use MySQL for the wallet, I think
 45 2011-05-14 00:22:21 <Crshman> that seems like a pretty reasonable solution
 46 2011-05-14 00:22:26 <luke-jr> not sure if I'm going to do that way tho
 47 2011-05-14 00:23:01 <Crshman> well even if you do that I imagine you still run into the issue of a single "wallet" with multiple daemons
 48 2011-05-14 00:23:10 <Crshman> your storage engine just shifts from a file to a db
 49 2011-05-14 00:23:27 <Crshman> the sync option you mentioned seems like a good way to go
 50 2011-05-14 00:23:58 <Crshman> i guess it's time to do more research on how to accomplish that
 51 2011-05-14 00:25:04 <sacarlson> Crshman: well that's how mine works when the user wants to see there balance what the php code does is move all the balances of that users acounts out of bitcoind and into the mysql before it displays to the user
 52 2011-05-14 00:25:19 <Crshman> right now that's what i'm doing right now too
 53 2011-05-14 00:26:36 <sacarlson> Crshman: I guess if you had multiple systems running bitcoind servers your code would sync to all of them before showing the results
 54 2011-05-14 00:27:06 <Crshman> right, but a user would have a flurry of different keys on each server that I'd have to keep track of
 55 2011-05-14 00:27:30 <Crshman> and if a send transaction happens from one machine, the newly generated keys won't show up on the other servers
 56 2011-05-14 00:27:34 <Crshman> unless I do some sort of sync
 57 2011-05-14 00:27:56 <sacarlson> Crshman: the bitcoind will track the keys all the servers will still have the same account name
 58 2011-05-14 00:28:34 <Crshman> when I spend on server A a new key gets generated in the pool for server A right?
 59 2011-05-14 00:29:05 <Crshman> how does server B know what key was generated on server A? does the protocol handle that?
 60 2011-05-14 00:29:08 <sacarlson> Crshman: so over time a user may have as many addresses for bitcoin deposits as you have servers
 61 2011-05-14 00:29:17 <Crshman> right
 62 2011-05-14 00:29:31 <Crshman> thinking about it though, I think I presented the wrong example
 63 2011-05-14 00:29:54 <plato> hi guys
 64 2011-05-14 00:30:25 <plato> is there a list of the priority features for 4.0?
 65 2011-05-14 00:30:25 <sacarlson> Crshman: when the accounts are synced all the money in the bitcoind account for say user 104 is set to zero and added to the mysql balance
 66 2011-05-14 00:30:34 <Crshman> how about this example, lets say I do a "getnewaddress" for an account on server A
 67 2011-05-14 00:30:40 <Crshman> how does server B know what address was generated?
 68 2011-05-14 00:31:03 <sacarlson> Crshman: it doesn't need to know
 69 2011-05-14 00:32:35 <Crshman> well what if server A goes down shortly after the new address is generated. the user wants to receive btc on that address, and it should be available immediately, will the other servers pick up that the address belongs to that account when a transaction is sent to the newly generated address?
 70 2011-05-14 00:32:38 <sacarlson> Crshman: I guess I see your point if that server with his address goes down you would need to move his account to the other server to continue to recieve his funds
 71 2011-05-14 00:32:49 <Crshman> yeah
 72 2011-05-14 00:33:41 <sacarlson> Crshman: ok I see your point,  maybe with the tool that bitcard uses you could create a method to merge the two wallets
 73 2011-05-14 00:34:20 <Crshman> what tool is that? is it on the forums? if so I can search no need to spoon feed you've offered more than enough help thus far =D
 74 2011-05-14 00:34:36 <sacarlson> with bitcard they just extract the key of the wallet so you could add keys to an already existing wallet
 75 2011-05-14 00:34:56 <sacarlson> Crshman: google bitcard tools
 76 2011-05-14 00:36:46 <sacarlson> luke-jr cool
 77 2011-05-14 00:36:50 <luke-jr> only works offline ofc
 78 2011-05-14 00:37:01 <luke-jr> someone else here had patches for JSON-RPC import/export
 79 2011-05-14 00:37:24 <Crshman> that would be handy
 80 2011-05-14 00:37:32 <luke-jr> ;;bc,gen 363000
 81 2011-05-14 00:37:35 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 363000 Khps, given current difficulty of 157426.20628986 , is 2.31928159076 BTC per day and 0.0966367329485 BTC per hour.
 82 2011-05-14 00:37:35 <sacarlson> luke-jr but I assume you can't have both identicle wallets running at the same time
 83 2011-05-14 00:37:55 <luke-jr> sacarlson: why not?
 84 2011-05-14 00:38:09 <Crshman> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/220
 85 2011-05-14 00:38:32 <sacarlson> luke-jr I'm not sure if you spend from one then the other isn't matched unless you sync on each transaction
 86 2011-05-14 00:39:02 <luke-jr> sacarlson: IIRC someone fixed that a bit ago
 87 2011-05-14 00:39:52 <sacarlson> luke-jr you mean buy design you have have to bitcoind running at the same time and there balance will stay synced?
 88 2011-05-14 00:40:28 <Crshman> it should right?
 89 2011-05-14 00:40:36 <Crshman> since they both receive the transaction from the network?
 90 2011-05-14 00:40:47 <sacarlson> Crshman: I'm not sure I'll run an experiment in testnet to find out
 91 2011-05-14 00:41:04 <Crshman> yeah 'im going to run a few experiments in test net right now too
 92 2011-05-14 00:41:23 <sacarlson> Crshman: the other won't see the transaction until the next minned coin event
 93 2011-05-14 00:41:31 <Crshman> oh true
 94 2011-05-14 00:41:54 <sacarlson> Crshman: so they will be out of sync for about 20 minits or up to 12 hours
 95 2011-05-14 00:42:28 <kreal-> ;;bc,stats
 96 2011-05-14 00:42:31 <gribble> Current Blocks: 123780 | Current Difficulty: 157426.20628986 | Next Difficulty At Block: 124991 | Next Difficulty In: 1211 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 8 hours, 43 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 208460.84843488
 97 2011-05-14 00:44:54 <CIA-103> bitcoin: Luke Dashjr * rea49fd9aef10 gentoo/net-p2p/bitcoin/ (Manifest bitcoin-9999.ebuild files/Makefile.gentoo): net-p2p/bitcoin-9999: various other updates needed for latest git codebase http://tinyurl.com/6cgpu2b
 98 2011-05-14 00:49:38 <Diablo-D3> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2546815
 99 2011-05-14 00:49:41 <Diablo-D3> dear god
100 2011-05-14 00:50:44 <gjs278> namecoin sucks
101 2011-05-14 00:53:06 <Diablo-D3> yes, but why the fuck did it even get votes
102 2011-05-14 00:53:19 <jgarzik> gjs278: make a better one.  the instructions are on the forums.
103 2011-05-14 00:53:24 <gjs278> no
104 2011-05-14 00:53:27 <gjs278> i mean
105 2011-05-14 00:53:29 <gjs278> the idea
106 2011-05-14 00:53:56 <plato> how do I track bugs, proposed features, etc using github?
107 2011-05-14 00:54:12 <gjs278> is stupid
108 2011-05-14 01:01:09 <Laereom_> So, I'm just getting started using the JSON RPC with bitcoind, and I have a few questions about how the account system works.  Pretty basic stuff, I doubt it'll be hard to answer.
109 2011-05-14 01:01:29 <Laereom_> Anyone up for helping a noob out?
110 2011-05-14 01:01:44 <Laereom_> ...i just read the 'ask and wait for a reply' >.>
111 2011-05-14 01:02:29 <Laereom_> Alright, I see a lot of commands for setting addresses to be associated with accounts, listing accounts, etc...but I don't actually see how accounts are created.  Is this somehow done implicitly?  Is there any resource I can read on this topic?
112 2011-05-14 01:02:49 <necrodearia> I suggest a gnome and kde gui be developed as well
113 2011-05-14 01:02:49 <sacarlson> I love this https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/220  able to export and merge keys  I want to play with that
114 2011-05-14 01:03:37 <plato> Laereom_: i'm new to -dev too
115 2011-05-14 01:03:49 <necrodearia> Discussing in #bitcoin-gentoo, I was curious about gui binary being renamed to have prefix of "wx" ("wxbitcoin") and realized that it was the only app on my system prefixed with wx.  However, there are many apps on my system prefixed with "k" for kde, "gtk" for gnome and "qt" for qt
116 2011-05-14 01:05:21 <Crshman> sacarlson: it looks promising, I just compiled it right now
117 2011-05-14 01:05:23 <Crshman> running some tests on it
118 2011-05-14 01:08:04 <jaybny> MagicalTux is there an officail ticker symbol
119 2011-05-14 01:08:06 <jaybny> ?
120 2011-05-14 01:11:40 <MagicalTux> jaybny: symbol?
121 2011-05-14 01:11:50 <jaybny> USDBTC
122 2011-05-14 01:11:59 <jaybny> mtgoxBC
123 2011-05-14 01:12:04 <jaybny> mtgoxBTC
124 2011-05-14 01:12:46 <jaybny> MagicalTux what is the ticker symbol for trading BitCoins for USD on your exchange?
125 2011-05-14 01:13:24 <EPiSKiNG> Who has extender cables for sale?
126 2011-05-14 01:13:30 <EPiSKiNG> technopagan?
127 2011-05-14 01:13:31 <Diablo-D3> jaybny: "mtgox"
128 2011-05-14 01:13:39 <Diablo-D3> jaybny: "mtusd" is for usd holdings on mtgox
129 2011-05-14 01:14:59 <jaybny> Diable-D3:    IBM 101 , ESM11 1300, mtgox 6
130 2011-05-14 01:15:08 <jaybny> what about BTCUSD
131 2011-05-14 01:15:11 <jaybny> USDBTC
132 2011-05-14 01:17:07 <gribble> Error: "bc,mtusd" is not a valid command.
133 2011-05-14 01:17:07 <JFK911> ;;bc,mtusd
134 2011-05-14 01:17:13 <JFK911> ;;bc,mtgox
135 2011-05-14 01:17:14 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":8.9,"low":6.5001,"vol":63453,"buy":8.501,"sell":8.511,"last":8.5011}}
136 2011-05-14 01:53:55 <EPiSKiNG> ;;bc,stats
137 2011-05-14 01:53:58 <gribble> Current Blocks: 123793 | Current Difficulty: 157426.20628986 | Next Difficulty At Block: 124991 | Next Difficulty In: 1198 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 6 hours, 24 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 209215.02811429
138 2011-05-14 01:54:06 <EPiSKiNG> ;;bc,calc 2800000
139 2011-05-14 01:54:06 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 2800000 Khps, given current difficulty of 157426.20628986 , is 2 days, 19 hours, 4 minutes, and 38 seconds
140 2011-05-14 01:54:12 <EPiSKiNG> ;;bc,calcd 2800000 209215.02811429
141 2011-05-14 01:54:12 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 2800000 Khps, given the supplied difficulty of 209215.02811429, is 3 days, 17 hours, 8 minutes, and 38 seconds
142 2011-05-14 01:54:28 <EPiSKiNG> ;;bc,gen 2800000
143 2011-05-14 01:54:29 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 2800000 Khps, given current difficulty of 157426.20628986 , is 17.8897753558 BTC per day and 0.74540730649 BTC per hour.
144 2011-05-14 01:54:31 <EPiSKiNG> ;;bc,gend 2800000 209215.02811429
145 2011-05-14 01:54:32 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 2800000 Khps, given the supplied difficulty of 209215.02811429, is 13.4613631297 BTC per day and 0.560890130405 BTC per hour.
146 2011-05-14 02:09:17 <Crshman> is there a way to compile a 32b bitcoin binary on a 64b system ?
147 2011-05-14 02:11:43 <luke-jr> not without installing a 32b system too
148 2011-05-14 02:12:03 <Crshman> so I have to compile on a 32b system to get a 32b binary?
149 2011-05-14 02:12:29 <Crshman> can't I just pass the -m32 flag?
150 2011-05-14 02:13:30 <doublec> yes, pass the -m32 flag and install the 32 bit libraries
151 2011-05-14 02:13:48 <Crshman> pass -m32 to the make command? or do I set it in the makefile?
152 2011-05-14 02:14:03 <doublec> it depends on how the project is set up
153 2011-05-14 02:14:12 <doublec> it needs to be on the compile line and the link line
154 2011-05-14 02:14:28 <luke-jr> Crshman: as doublec said, you still need to install the 32b system
155 2011-05-14 02:14:31 <luke-jr> before that will work
156 2011-05-14 02:14:36 <Crshman> right
157 2011-05-14 02:14:36 <doublec> and you'll need g++-multilib
158 2011-05-14 02:14:41 <Crshman> ah
159 2011-05-14 02:14:49 <doublec> and probably ia32-libs and friends
160 2011-05-14 02:14:57 <doublec> (on ubuntu)
161 2011-05-14 02:15:27 <Crshman> more work than it's work =P I just installed all the source deps on my 32b laptop and i started the compile
162 2011-05-14 02:15:33 <Crshman> worth*
163 2011-05-14 02:15:42 <luke-jr> lol
164 2011-05-14 02:30:05 <EPiSKiNG> Tycho, you around?
165 2011-05-14 02:30:16 <EPiSKiNG> I want to know how many BTC you're making in a 24 hr period
166 2011-05-14 02:30:24 <EPiSKiNG> extremely curious
167 2011-05-14 02:32:20 <doublec> you should be able to work it out. You know the pool hash rate. and the percentage it takes.
168 2011-05-14 02:33:11 <gjs278> on topic there is a mouse in my house wat do
169 2011-05-14 02:34:41 <doublec> ;;bc,gen 600000000
170 2011-05-14 02:34:44 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 600000000 Khps, given current difficulty of 157426.20628986 , is 3833.52329052 BTC per day and 159.730137105 BTC per hour.
171 2011-05-14 02:34:52 <doublec> ;;calc 3833 * 0.03
172 2011-05-14 02:34:52 <gribble> 3,833 * 0.03 = 114.99
173 2011-05-14 02:35:24 <Raccoon> ;;view
174 2011-05-14 02:35:25 <gribble> #2294 Fri May 13 12:23:59 2011 Raccoon SELL 1.0 bcm_invitation @ 1 BTC ((Selling BitCoin Market invite))
175 2011-05-14 02:39:37 <bk128> ;;bc,stats
176 2011-05-14 02:39:39 <gribble> Current Blocks: 123806 | Current Difficulty: 157426.20628986 | Next Difficulty At Block: 124991 | Next Difficulty In: 1185 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 3 hours, 8 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 211332.48118757
177 2011-05-14 02:40:30 <Crshman> sacarlson: that patch seems to be working pretty well from my testing
178 2011-05-14 02:40:41 <Crshman> i'm going to add another small feature to it and I think it'll work out
179 2011-05-14 02:41:38 <sacarlson> Crshman: I didn't find that tree hash in the git I downloaded
180 2011-05-14 02:42:45 <sacarlson> Crshman: I'm presently busy with an attempt to compile for windows XP with mingw
181 2011-05-14 02:42:54 <Crshman> fun fun
182 2011-05-14 02:43:38 <sacarlson> Crshman: I hate windows but to get testers for my site I need a working windows client
183 2011-05-14 02:43:46 <Crshman> sucks
184 2011-05-14 02:46:07 <sacarlson> Crshman: I'm trying a dangers shortcut with this precreated package of dependancies http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=4750.0
185 2011-05-14 02:46:35 <Crshman> i see, I have no windows machines at all so I don't have to fight with that thankfull
186 2011-05-14 02:46:41 <Crshman> nor does my app require windows
187 2011-05-14 02:47:18 <sacarlson> has anyone used this package from here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UMGIGSYM  ?  is it at all safe?
188 2011-05-14 02:47:49 <sacarlson> Crshman: I don't eather I run windows XP in a virtualbox in linux
189 2011-05-14 02:49:23 <doublec> why not using mingw-get to install things like openssl?
190 2011-05-14 02:49:32 <doublec> instead of building it from source
191 2011-05-14 02:49:45 <doublec> making a mingw-get package for bitcoin would be useful
192 2011-05-14 02:50:35 <sacarlson> doublec: that package above is all the binaries already compiled to enable compiling bitcoin without geting each of those
193 2011-05-14 02:50:52 <doublec> yeah, I don't trust binaries from random strangers
194 2011-05-14 02:51:07 <doublec> (says the person who suggests using random binaries from mingw....)
195 2011-05-14 02:52:07 <sacarlson> doublec: this is just a temp shortcut I agree at some point I'll have to find a more secure method,  but my windows XP is already unsecure so pointless to try to secure something that can't be anyway
196 2011-05-14 02:53:14 <Kiba> yay...
197 2011-05-14 02:53:58 <sacarlson> I think I should distibute my windows version with a sandbox attached
198 2011-05-14 02:55:05 <Diablo-D3> Kiba: page 3 girls?
199 2011-05-14 02:55:28 <doublec> sacarlson: haha, good point
200 2011-05-14 02:56:23 <Kiba> Diablo-D3: no...I am trying to improve the economic output of my magazine by improving the ease of posting and reviewing contents
201 2011-05-14 02:56:44 <Diablo-D3> Kiba: so.... page 3 girls?
202 2011-05-14 02:57:09 <sacarlson> Diablo-D3: I bid 6 girls and one goat
203 2011-05-14 02:57:44 <Kiba> Diablo-D3: no.
204 2011-05-14 02:58:59 <Kiba> Hmm
205 2011-05-14 02:59:01 <pnicholson> Kiba: you should make two versions, one for Diablo-D3 and one for everyone else lol
206 2011-05-14 02:59:07 <Kiba> bitcoin is its own startup incubators
207 2011-05-14 02:59:20 <Diablo-D3> http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3091
208 2011-05-14 02:59:24 <Kiba> pnicholson: the ROI of that would be horrific
209 2011-05-14 02:59:32 <Diablo-D3> the ROI would be HILARIOUS
210 2011-05-14 02:59:47 <Diablo-D3> smaller returns would still be a positive ROI
211 2011-05-14 03:00:23 <pnicholson> nah, you just design the one version and sub the picture for the other
212 2011-05-14 03:00:45 <pnicholson> *pictures
213 2011-05-14 03:01:13 <Kiba> I wonder what's taking my competitors, The Bitcoin Sun, so long to get started
214 2011-05-14 03:01:13 <pnicholson> use a google images search for girls and goats LOL
215 2011-05-14 03:01:26 <Kiba> s/competitors/competitor
216 2011-05-14 03:01:37 <Kiba> allegly, they got enough capitals to last for weeks
217 2011-05-14 03:01:45 <Kiba> and better pay
218 2011-05-14 03:03:04 <Kiba> granted, it is better pay than only weeks ago
219 2011-05-14 03:03:28 <retinal> depending on how much effort the employee actually exerted that may not be so bad
220 2011-05-14 03:04:01 <Kiba> my employee is a reliable producer of contents
221 2011-05-14 03:04:41 <Kiba> and he write articles that get people's attention and stuff
222 2011-05-14 03:04:48 <Kiba> that's gold right there
223 2011-05-14 03:05:15 <retinal> I make noise and flash lights to accomplish the same thing ;)
224 2011-05-14 03:05:18 <Kiba> ya know how many editors I went throught?
225 2011-05-14 03:05:35 <Kiba> (and writers)
226 2011-05-14 03:05:51 <Kiba> my boss left the business after an editor quit
227 2011-05-14 03:06:04 <Kiba> then I have my own editor quit
228 2011-05-14 03:06:36 <Kiba> plus, there's guys who write one or two articles..but that's it..
229 2011-05-14 03:06:44 <da2ce7> :)
230 2011-05-14 03:06:49 <da2ce7> hey kiba!
231 2011-05-14 03:07:24 <Kiba> I am finally recouping my cost though
232 2011-05-14 03:12:53 <da2ce7> how  much do you get from adds?
233 2011-05-14 03:16:16 <plato> ;;slap kiba
234 2011-05-14 03:19:08 <soaring_eagle> ;;ping
235 2011-05-14 03:19:09 <gribble> pong
236 2011-05-14 04:42:49 <pnicholson> ;gpg eauth soaring_eagle
237 2011-05-14 04:43:11 <pnicholson> ;;gpg eauth soaring_eagle
238 2011-05-14 04:43:12 <gribble> Request successful for user soaring_eagle, hostmask pnicholson!~paul@2001:470:e1c6:0:fa1e:dfff:fee5:4864. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/4CF4982BE65E1DBE
239 2011-05-14 04:53:03 <luke-jr> ;;bc,calc [bc,eligius]
240 2011-05-14 04:53:05 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 34603119.8481 Khps, given current difficulty of 157426.20628986 , is 5 hours, 25 minutes, and 39 seconds
241 2011-05-14 04:57:30 <Herodes> Kiba: Yes, content is king.
242 2011-05-14 04:57:31 <Herodes> :D
243 2011-05-14 04:58:30 <WantToBuy> Why can't I join the #Pakistan channel ? I wanted to give them this link : http://dotsub.com/media/b5ee5ada-5b37-4b0b-9916-e0896337ec4b/e/m
244 2011-05-14 05:22:27 <redwizard_kde> anyone have any errors compiling bitcoin for kubuntu?
245 2011-05-14 05:22:41 <redwizard_kde> i'm stuck on miniupnpc
246 2011-05-14 05:27:31 <wumpus> did you use make USE_PNP=
247 2011-05-14 05:27:57 <wumpus> sorry, make USE_UPNP
248 2011-05-14 05:28:01 <redwizard_kde> o
249 2011-05-14 05:28:07 <wumpus> =
250 2011-05-14 05:28:11 <wumpus> no value after the =
251 2011-05-14 05:28:24 <wumpus> it's a super special trick to disable UPNP
252 2011-05-14 05:28:51 <wumpus> or you could install the miniupnp lib but I have no idea what the package name is
253 2011-05-14 05:29:00 <redwizard_kde> where do i put that
254 2011-05-14 05:29:02 <redwizard_kde> erm
255 2011-05-14 05:29:08 <wumpus> after 'make'
256 2011-05-14 05:29:18 <redwizard_kde> make USE_UPNP -f makefile.unix
257 2011-05-14 05:29:32 <wumpus> make -f makefile.unix USE_UPNP=
258 2011-05-14 05:30:41 <redwizard_kde> seems to be vaguely getting further this time
259 2011-05-14 05:31:01 <redwizard_kde> will be interesting to see how fast this is on a quadcore with a gts 240...
260 2011-05-14 05:31:03 <wumpus> well as long as you have the right wx crap it whould work now
261 2011-05-14 05:31:34 <redwizard_kde> yeah i installed the widget crap
262 2011-05-14 05:31:43 <redwizard_kde> i even installed miniupnp...
263 2011-05-14 05:33:27 <redwizard_kde> grr
264 2011-05-14 05:33:35 <redwizard_kde> undefined reference to fUseUPnP
265 2011-05-14 05:44:23 <jazzanova> hi
266 2011-05-14 05:45:04 <jazzanova> necro: bitcoind getblance "Your Address" 1 -- gives me the same as with 0
267 2011-05-14 05:45:10 <jazzanova> sorry, wrong channel
268 2011-05-14 05:47:59 <jazzanova> how can I see the balance on an account, counting all the unconfirmed transaction made out of this account ?
269 2011-05-14 05:49:28 <datathe1st> How come I cannot chat in bitcoin-market anymore?
270 2011-05-14 05:52:19 <retinal> you should've never been able to
271 2011-05-14 05:52:46 <retinal> (channel mode +m only allows +v/above to chat)
272 2011-05-14 05:53:02 <retinal> and gribble is the onle one that should ever need to
273 2011-05-14 05:53:36 <sipa> Crshman: wallet.dat contains pregenerated keys, if you copy the file to another server they will have access to the same funds
274 2011-05-14 05:54:06 <sipa> as long as you sync them at least every 100 transactions
275 2011-05-14 05:55:21 <datathe1st_> hello all
276 2011-05-14 05:55:33 <datathe1st_> can someone please explain why there is no more chatting in #bitcoin-market?
277 2011-05-14 05:56:04 <necrodearia> http://codepad.org/un8YL9o9 I noticed bitcoin-git makefile.unix uses a mix of static and dynamic librariies and the gentoo linux ebuild makefile uses only dynamic libraries.  Is there a benefit to using static and dynamic or is it better to use all dynamic?
278 2011-05-14 05:57:10 <jazzanova> how can I see the balance on an account, counting all the unconfirmed transaction made out of this account ?
279 2011-05-14 06:03:16 <Herodes> datathe1st_: Perhaps because most vendors are not that into technology? They're more into running their business?
280 2011-05-14 06:03:26 <Herodes> I am speaking in general.
281 2011-05-14 06:03:48 <datathe1st_> no i mean it is impossible to chat
282 2011-05-14 06:04:03 <datathe1st_> == Cannot send to channel: #bitcoin-market
283 2011-05-14 06:04:05 <Herodes> Of course technology businesses are knowledgeable about IT, but think the grocery store in your local town, not likely they will pop into that channel and start talking.
284 2011-05-14 06:04:11 <Herodes> ah...
285 2011-05-14 06:04:12 <Herodes> ok.
286 2011-05-14 06:04:21 <datathe1st_> I've seen you there before
287 2011-05-14 06:04:26 <datathe1st_> you must know what I'm talking about
288 2011-05-14 06:04:42 <datathe1st_> and also why does my nick have an _ on the end?
289 2011-05-14 06:04:45 <datathe1st_> its' wierdness
290 2011-05-14 06:05:01 <Herodes> yes, there might be something wrong with that channel.
291 2011-05-14 06:05:07 <Herodes> ask nanotube, he might fix it.
292 2011-05-14 06:06:32 <plato> datathe1st_: you probably dc'd and logged in twice and kept the later username
293 2011-05-14 06:06:37 <plato> datathe1st_: just use /nick datathe1st
294 2011-05-14 06:07:12 <plato> datathe1st_: #bitcoin-market is just for market data, trade talk is in #bitcoin-otc
295 2011-05-14 06:07:49 <datathe1st_> plato: god I'm an idiot
296 2011-05-14 06:07:58 <datathe1st_> I wanted to join bitcoin-otc all along
297 2011-05-14 06:08:03 <plato> datathe1st_: lawl
298 2011-05-14 06:08:09 <plato> well, welcome
299 2011-05-14 06:08:15 <plato> also consider #bitcoin-politics
300 2011-05-14 06:11:10 <sipa> datathe1st: #bitcoin-market is for market tickers, the bot speaks, the rest listens
301 2011-05-14 06:18:29 <Diablo-D3> good news
302 2011-05-14 06:18:33 <Diablo-D3> my 5850 plays portal.
303 2011-05-14 06:27:26 <necrodearia> datathe1st, Fixed that for you and everyone else. ^_^
304 2011-05-14 06:29:10 <redwizard_kde> anyone know how to fix an undefined reference to fUseUPnP
305 2011-05-14 06:39:10 <sipa> redwizard_kde: delete db.o
306 2011-05-14 06:39:42 <sipa> it means you still have a db.o file from an earlier compilation that had USE_UPNP enabled
307 2011-05-14 06:47:44 <Diablo-D3> goddamnit I hate python
308 2011-05-14 06:48:01 <Diablo-D3> what the hell does x7f in python strings mean? 0x7f?
309 2011-05-14 06:50:55 <redwizard_kde> sipa: ty
310 2011-05-14 06:51:22 <sipa> Diablo-D3: yes
311 2011-05-14 06:51:34 <redwizard_kde> >.<
312 2011-05-14 06:54:21 <redwizard_kde> woah
313 2011-05-14 06:54:23 <redwizard_kde> it worked
314 2011-05-14 06:54:40 <sipa> don't
315 2011-05-14 06:54:43 <ArtForz> don't cross the beams!
316 2011-05-14 06:54:56 <sipa> it's pointless and will generate you less than what it costs you in electricity
317 2011-05-14 06:55:03 <sipa> ;;bc,calc 4000
318 2011-05-14 06:55:05 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 4000 Khps, given current difficulty of 157426.20628986 , is 5 years, 18 weeks, 5 days, 10 hours, 11 minutes, and 41 seconds
319 2011-05-14 06:55:18 <sipa> ^^ it will take you something like that until you have something
320 2011-05-14 06:55:37 <ArtForz> it causes total protonic reversal
321 2011-05-14 06:55:46 <redwizard_kde> crikey
322 2011-05-14 06:55:54 <redwizard_kde> what is Khps
323 2011-05-14 06:56:08 <ArtForz> kilo hashes per second
324 2011-05-14 06:56:13 <redwizard_kde> ah
325 2011-05-14 06:56:21 <sipa> a normal CPU does around 2000-4000
326 2011-05-14 06:56:23 <redwizard_kde> ok well thats fun to know
327 2011-05-14 06:56:27 <redwizard_kde> i have a quadcore...
328 2011-05-14 06:56:33 <sipa> ok, maybe 6000
329 2011-05-14 06:56:36 <redwizard_kde> theres gpu stuff out there too though right?
330 2011-05-14 06:56:39 <ArtForz> a high-end graphics card does 750000
331 2011-05-14 06:56:47 <redwizard_kde> or does it just use it
332 2011-05-14 06:56:57 <redwizard_kde> if it finds it
333 2011-05-14 06:56:59 <sipa> no it doesn't, you need special software to use the ghp
334 2011-05-14 06:57:00 <sipa> gpu
335 2011-05-14 06:57:02 <redwizard_kde> ah
336 2011-05-14 06:57:04 <Diablo-D3> a high end card does over 900.
337 2011-05-14 06:57:04 <redwizard_kde> lovely
338 2011-05-14 06:57:05 <Diablo-D3> er
339 2011-05-14 06:57:06 <Diablo-D3> 9000
340 2011-05-14 06:57:08 <Diablo-D3> srsly
341 2011-05-14 06:57:14 <sipa> so please, do not use the generate coins option in bitcoin itself
342 2011-05-14 06:57:20 <redwizard_kde> lol
343 2011-05-14 06:57:21 <redwizard_kde> kk
344 2011-05-14 06:57:27 <ArtForz> yes, 750000 was OVER 9000!!! last time I checked ;)
345 2011-05-14 06:57:29 <sipa> it's removed in the next version, btw
346 2011-05-14 06:57:40 <Diablo-D3> ArtForz: bitcoin has basically screwed over this meme
347 2011-05-14 06:57:43 <redwizard_kde> time for work! :)
348 2011-05-14 06:58:05 <Diablo-D3> goddamnit
349 2011-05-14 06:58:13 <Diablo-D3> this bfi patching code is shit
350 2011-05-14 06:58:16 <Diablo-D3> who the fuck coded this
351 2011-05-14 06:58:36 <ArtForz> a retarded monkey with ADS?
352 2011-05-14 06:58:47 <Diablo-D3> you missed an I there
353 2011-05-14 06:59:08 <ArtForz> no, I d hey, a butterfly!
354 2011-05-14 06:59:08 <Diablo-D3> (id, a, b, c, d, e, f, offset, g, h, i, j, entrySize, count, index) = unpack('QQHHIIIIIHHHHHH', data2[:52])
355 2011-05-14 06:59:11 <Diablo-D3> seriously, fuck you
356 2011-05-14 06:59:20 <Herodes> Diablo-D3: so much energy you waste on negativity.
357 2011-05-14 06:59:30 <Diablo-D3> Herodes: Im trying to implement bfi int, shut up
358 2011-05-14 06:59:41 <ArtForz> negative is the new positive
359 2011-05-14 06:59:47 <Herodes> when I code, I usually leave irc.
360 2011-05-14 06:59:49 <Herodes> :)
361 2011-05-14 07:00:36 <Herodes> ArtForz: For Diablo it means that supernegative is the new superpositive.
362 2011-05-14 07:00:38 <Herodes> :D
363 2011-05-14 07:00:40 <Herodes> Hehehe.
364 2011-05-14 07:00:47 <Diablo-D3> 45, 4C, 46
365 2011-05-14 07:00:50 <Diablo-D3> what does that spell?
366 2011-05-14 07:00:52 <Diablo-D3> FUCK YOU
367 2011-05-14 07:00:53 <Herodes> Always when I hear Diablo-D3 speak, I think of my grumpy professor.
368 2011-05-14 07:01:20 <Herodes> The interesting thing is that he's prolly serious too.
369 2011-05-14 07:01:40 <ArtForz> nah, he just wants to play!
370 2011-05-14 07:01:47 <Herodes> hahaha.. :)
371 2011-05-14 07:02:11 <lianj> Diablo-D3: i doesnt spell fuck you :P
372 2011-05-14 07:02:23 <Diablo-D3> it depends if you hate AMD or not
373 2011-05-14 07:02:31 <Herodes> ArtForz: What background do you have, I have learned you are one of the top dogs when it comes to technical skills in this community. Electrical engineering? Or computer engineering?
374 2011-05-14 07:02:37 <ArtForz> EE
375 2011-05-14 07:02:55 <Diablo-D3> I better get fucking over 300 mhash on this
376 2011-05-14 07:03:04 <Herodes> Ah, yes. I'd think so. That explains how you know to do the ASICs stuff. very impressive.
377 2011-05-14 07:03:24 <Herodes> Diablo-D3: ah, there you said it. The lack of fucking is your problem.
378 2011-05-14 07:03:32 <Herodes> Try it, and you'll be more calm, I promise.
379 2011-05-14 07:03:33 <Herodes> :D
380 2011-05-14 07:06:21 <ArtForz> finally got around to implementing LP support for the getwork version of my asic miner host
381 2011-05-14 07:07:17 <ArtForz> seems to work so far
382 2011-05-14 07:08:09 <Diablo-D3> heh
383 2011-05-14 07:13:08 <edcba> wtf is namecoin ?
384 2011-05-14 07:13:38 <edcba> can you run your own nameserver ?
385 2011-05-14 07:31:35 <mrb_> Diablo-D3: need help for bfi_int patching?
386 2011-05-14 07:39:45 <Diablo-D3> I dont think poclbm is doing what it thinsk its doing
387 2011-05-14 07:45:53 <Diablo-D3> wait maybe it is
388 2011-05-14 07:46:00 <Diablo-D3> its using that fucking insane python opencl wrapper shit
389 2011-05-14 07:46:33 <molecular> is ???140 a good price for a 6870?
390 2011-05-14 07:48:18 <Diablo-D3> sounds high, honestly
391 2011-05-14 07:48:25 <mtrlt> i can get a new one for ???180.. i'd say yes
392 2011-05-14 07:48:46 <mtrlt> but i'm finnish so my sense of value is warped
393 2011-05-14 07:48:57 <mtrlt> (because of high taxes)
394 2011-05-14 07:49:12 <lupine_85> (taken from #bitcoin) - what do people reckon to adding webfinger support to bitcoin? So given an address like 'nick@lupine.me.uk' to pay bitcoins to, you go to lupine.me.uk, find the config for 'nick', and extract a field telling you the bitcoin address
395 2011-05-14 07:49:50 <lupine_85> (I think there's also support for JID-style specifications - nick@lupine.me.uk/home , /work , etc
396 2011-05-14 07:56:08 <BlueMatt> <luke-jr> 5d1d69453a8bc9564a40b3bb2e1f05de233e868d looks totally backward <- Huh?
397 2011-05-14 07:57:08 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell> BlueMatt: hm. How is this usable from the CLI? I'm not catching how you'd do password entry there. <- passwords are always the first argument to commands that require a password...
398 2011-05-14 07:58:28 <Diablo-D3> (id, a, b, c, d, e, f, offset, g, h, i, j, entrySize, count, index) = unpack('QQHHIIIIIHHHHHH', data2[:52])
399 2011-05-14 07:58:32 <Diablo-D3> Q = unsigned long long
400 2011-05-14 07:58:34 <Diablo-D3> goddamnit.
401 2011-05-14 08:08:31 <Keefe> mrb_: you still on?
402 2011-05-14 08:12:54 <mrb_> Keefe: yes
403 2011-05-14 08:13:19 <Keefe> looking at your blog post about splitting off the 12V power from a pci-e riser...
404 2011-05-14 08:13:45 <Keefe> you're only splitting off +. what about the return path?
405 2011-05-14 08:14:08 <Keefe> does it use the grounds of the other power connectors?
406 2011-05-14 08:14:36 <mrb_> the return path is via the many ground lines of PCIe extender, and the many ground lines of the 24-pin ATX connector
407 2011-05-14 08:14:41 <Keefe> or does it use other pins of the pci-e slot but your mobo had plenty of grounding so no need to split those as well?
408 2011-05-14 08:14:48 <ArtForz> building massive current loops is fun!
409 2011-05-14 08:14:48 <Keefe> ok
410 2011-05-14 08:16:49 <Diablo-D3> lol
411 2011-05-14 08:17:35 <Keefe> i was up in my attic today checking cables... the 12-2 romex feeding most of my miners, thru which about 15A is flowing, was almost too hot to hold my hand around :(
412 2011-05-14 08:17:35 <mrb_> ?
413 2011-05-14 08:17:59 <Keefe> at one point, where it was buried in insulation
414 2011-05-14 08:18:10 <Keefe> where it was in open air, it was only warm
415 2011-05-14 08:18:58 <Diablo-D3> Keefe: heh, run another line up
416 2011-05-14 08:19:16 <Keefe> going to... but to hook up even more heaters
417 2011-05-14 08:19:24 <Keefe> but i'll probably use 10 guage wire this time
418 2011-05-14 08:20:38 <Diablo-D3> oh fuck you
419 2011-05-14 08:20:41 <Keefe> my goal is 50A total
420 2011-05-14 08:20:49 <Diablo-D3> Im trying to figure out why the fuck I cant find this shit
421 2011-05-14 08:20:52 <Keefe> multiple circuits of course
422 2011-05-14 08:20:55 <Diablo-D3> 
423 2011-05-14 08:21:07 <Diablo-D3> 6010101 + "x7fELF"
424 2011-05-14 08:21:27 <ArtForz> byte order?
425 2011-05-14 08:21:28 <Diablo-D3> the fucking goddamned shitfuck starts 4 bytes AFTER WE ALREADY FOUND THE GODDAMNED FUCKING THING
426 2011-05-14 08:21:42 <Diablo-D3> https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/blob/master/BitcoinMiner.py#L63
427 2011-05-14 08:21:47 <anarchyx> ;;bc,stats
428 2011-05-14 08:21:47 <Diablo-D3> YES WE KNOW ITS THERE, WE JUST FOUND IT
429 2011-05-14 08:21:49 <gribble> Current Blocks: 123861 | Current Difficulty: 157426.20628986 | Next Difficulty At Block: 124991 | Next Difficulty In: 1130 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 19 hours, 3 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 213279.54096673
430 2011-05-14 08:22:57 <ArtForz> Diablo-D3: you fail.
431 2011-05-14 08:23:09 <Diablo-D3> dont look at me, I didnt write this fucking code
432 2011-05-14 08:23:23 <ArtForz> the code is correct, your understanding, not.
433 2011-05-14 08:23:43 <Diablo-D3> line 62: find the ELF signature
434 2011-05-14 08:23:47 <ArtForz> it's looking for the *second* x7FELF
435 2011-05-14 08:23:50 <Diablo-D3> line 63: find the second ELF signature
436 2011-05-14 08:23:56 <ArtForz> yep
437 2011-05-14 08:24:06 <Diablo-D3> line 67: check if id _matches the ELF signature WE JUST FOUND IN LINE 63
438 2011-05-14 08:24:34 <ArtForz> well, thats simply a duplicate check
439 2011-05-14 08:24:54 <ArtForz> but yeah, checking for x7fELF there is useless
440 2011-05-14 08:25:41 <ArtForz> might as well read the dword at +4 and compare against 0x64010101
441 2011-05-14 08:27:09 <Diablo-D3> well, why the fuck dont I just search for line 67 to begin with
442 2011-05-14 08:28:58 <edcba> wait something is wrong
443 2011-05-14 08:29:04 <edcba> ;bc,mtgox
444 2011-05-14 08:29:09 <edcba> ;;bc,mtgox
445 2011-05-14 08:29:10 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":8.9,"low":6.51,"vol":52021,"buy":8.5291,"sell":8.6,"last":8.52}}
446 2011-05-14 08:29:18 <Diablo-D3> whats so wrong?
447 2011-05-14 08:29:41 <ArtForz> seems fine
448 2011-05-14 08:31:07 <edcba> maybe i should do a real backup of my wallet
449 2011-05-14 08:31:18 <edcba> like buying a new hard disk lol
450 2011-05-14 08:31:32 <BlueMatt> offline backups ftw
451 2011-05-14 08:32:08 <edcba> how is the difficulty now ?
452 2011-05-14 08:32:14 <BlueMatt> 150k
453 2011-05-14 08:34:25 <BlueMatt> if witchspace gets qt up in the next couple weeks, 0.4.0 might be qt (or I suppose more likely 0.4.1/0.5 at that point)
454 2011-05-14 08:34:36 <BlueMatt> that would be so nice
455 2011-05-14 08:37:38 <dirtyfilthy> ;;sell 380 MTUSD at 1.029 PPUSD
456 2011-05-14 08:37:38 <gribble> Order id 2316 created.
457 2011-05-14 08:38:42 <edcba> hmm so mtgox takes a fee when you sell
458 2011-05-14 08:38:49 <edcba> mtgox must be rich now
459 2011-05-14 08:39:14 <BlueMatt> only recently has he been making a pretty decent salart
460 2011-05-14 08:39:20 <BlueMatt> salary*
461 2011-05-14 08:40:39 <edcba> i still wonder how that will end
462 2011-05-14 08:41:00 <BlueMatt> ?
463 2011-05-14 08:41:27 <BlueMatt> though Im sure he has to shell out a pretty penny for hosting
464 2011-05-14 08:41:39 <edcba> no i was thinking about bitcoin globally
465 2011-05-14 08:42:00 <BlueMatt> oh, I dont think it will in the forseable future
466 2011-05-14 08:42:14 <Diablo-D3> ArtForz: erm
467 2011-05-14 08:42:17 <Diablo-D3> this code is screwy
468 2011-05-14 08:42:43 <ArtForz> wow, really?
469 2011-05-14 08:42:43 <Diablo-D3> does that fall through and continue even if it doesnt find the second elf?
470 2011-05-14 08:42:48 <edcba> also i should really try gpu mining now
471 2011-05-14 08:43:14 <edcba> what's the easiest way when running windows ?
472 2011-05-14 08:43:27 <Diablo-D3> edcba: probably my miner
473 2011-05-14 08:43:29 <edcba> pooled of course
474 2011-05-14 08:43:46 <edcba> it's the java thing ?
475 2011-05-14 08:44:04 <Diablo-D3> yes
476 2011-05-14 08:44:16 <edcba> damn i didn't like your code
477 2011-05-14 08:44:26 <Diablo-D3> what, my nice superior code?
478 2011-05-14 08:44:30 <edcba> lol
479 2011-05-14 08:44:37 <Diablo-D3> my code thats faster than anybody else's code?
480 2011-05-14 08:44:38 <BlueMatt> does it support BFI_INT yet?
481 2011-05-14 08:44:48 <Diablo-D3> BlueMatt: what do you think Ive been swearing about the past 2 houes
482 2011-05-14 08:44:51 <Diablo-D3> *hours
483 2011-05-14 08:45:12 <BlueMatt> ah, well not quite faster than everyone else yet..but I suppose its close
484 2011-05-14 08:45:31 <Diablo-D3> BlueMatt: well, vs phoenix with bfi off, its a huge margin
485 2011-05-14 08:45:50 <Diablo-D3> and vs poclbm with bfi patching removed by hand, its a smaller but significant margin
486 2011-05-14 08:46:28 <Diablo-D3> and soon as I finish hating bfi, it will be faster with bfi on.
487 2011-05-14 08:50:03 <edcba> hmm maybe i should sell service against bitcoins
488 2011-05-14 08:50:23 <edcba> maybe easier to win bitcoins that way finally
489 2011-05-14 08:51:11 <edcba> how much bitcoin(s) do you earn by day with some 5870 card ?
490 2011-05-14 08:53:16 <Diablo-D3> sigh, dear god python sucks
491 2011-05-14 08:57:22 <da2ce7> diablo-d3, it is supprising that there are somany python dev's in the bitcoin community.
492 2011-05-14 08:58:19 <Diablo-D3> I dont know why anyone would program in such a horrid language
493 2011-05-14 08:58:26 <BlueMatt> Diablo-D3: just hates anything thats not java so...
494 2011-05-14 08:59:27 <da2ce7> jave is just like .net  I think that they must have got losts of their ideas from Microsoft...
495 2011-05-14 08:59:31 <jazzanova> hi
496 2011-05-14 08:59:50 <jazzanova> i'm issuing a "move" command with json-rpc and I get 500 internal server error
497 2011-05-14 09:00:01 <Diablo-D3> da2ce7: you're going to die.
498 2011-05-14 09:06:09 <acfrazier> ;;bc,gen 800000
499 2011-05-14 09:06:10 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 800000 Khps, given current difficulty of 157426.20628986 , is 5.11136438736 BTC per day and 0.21297351614 BTC per hour.
500 2011-05-14 09:06:42 <molecular> da2ce7, you're trolling, right?
501 2011-05-14 09:06:59 <da2ce7> yep... I love Jave
502 2011-05-14 09:07:07 <molecular> thank god
503 2011-05-14 09:07:14 <lianj> jvm is nice, but java the language? come on..
504 2011-05-14 09:07:41 <molecular> lianj, what's wrong with it?
505 2011-05-14 09:08:05 <lianj> not enjoyable to write in
506 2011-05-14 09:08:20 <molecular> lianj, that's subjective ;)
507 2011-05-14 09:08:28 <lianj> molecular: true
508 2011-05-14 09:09:12 <da2ce7> *well can code... but don't like to do it...  I'm better at Functional Langurages
509 2011-05-14 09:09:54 <lianj> da2ce7: is there a bitcoin.hs?
510 2011-05-14 09:09:59 <molecular> da2ce7, trying to write sth in a functional language make knots in my brain
511 2011-05-14 09:10:11 <molecular> too many ((((()))))
512 2011-05-14 09:10:25 <da2ce7> we should make a bitcoin F# impmentation...
513 2011-05-14 09:10:35 <da2ce7> that would be both great to define the spec in...
514 2011-05-14 09:10:37 <molecular> nah, brainfuck
515 2011-05-14 09:10:52 <lianj> molecular: would you still enjoy writing java without an IDE? in like vim?
516 2011-05-14 09:10:54 <da2ce7> and portable to mono
517 2011-05-14 09:11:24 <molecular> lianj, yes. actually I do that for smaller projects... kinda dislike netbeans/eclipse
518 2011-05-14 09:11:48 <molecular> not vim, though ;)
519 2011-05-14 09:12:06 <lianj> hehe
520 2011-05-14 09:12:10 <da2ce7> OO functional langurages are the way to do it...
521 2011-05-14 09:12:30 <lianj> da2ce7: we should have lunch :D
522 2011-05-14 09:12:37 <molecular> da2ce7, functional language always seemed to me like a mathematicians specification of how something should work
523 2011-05-14 09:12:53 <molecular> there's no free lunch!
524 2011-05-14 09:13:10 <acfrazier> hm
525 2011-05-14 09:13:19 <acfrazier> on pushpool I get mysql sharelog failed at execute
526 2011-05-14 09:13:21 <acfrazier> what does that mean.
527 2011-05-14 09:13:29 <da2ce7> wouldn't that be usefull for bitcoin... it will be a propper mathatmatical spec of bitcoin.
528 2011-05-14 09:14:07 <molecular> that only some people can actually read
529 2011-05-14 09:14:08 <da2ce7> insted of translating bitcoin from C++ to everthing else... it will be From Functional to > whatever...
530 2011-05-14 09:14:44 <da2ce7> hmmm... yeah you will have like 1% of the coders can 'get it'...
531 2011-05-14 09:14:54 <da2ce7> and the rest will be like 'wtf'
532 2011-05-14 09:15:08 <da2ce7> but I don't code... I get people to code for me.
533 2011-05-14 09:15:26 <molecular> well, I always thought java was a good language for reference implementations, because _most_ people can read it
534 2011-05-14 09:15:47 <da2ce7> yeah... java is very portable.
535 2011-05-14 09:15:49 <molecular> and it has static typing
536 2011-05-14 09:15:55 <da2ce7> +1 for java.
537 2011-05-14 09:16:30 <da2ce7> once the bitcoinj is stable it shouldn't be long till we see a good c# port.
538 2011-05-14 09:16:43 <BlueMatt> nice language, I prefer compiling to native though...though Ive never tried jgc
539 2011-05-14 09:16:44 <molecular> da2ce7, you let people code for you? need code? have BTC?
540 2011-05-14 09:16:51 <BlueMatt> or is it gjc?
541 2011-05-14 09:17:22 <da2ce7> molecular, I have 100 jobs to be done.. and two few programers...
542 2011-05-14 09:17:45 <doublec> pay them more. You might get more programmers.
543 2011-05-14 09:18:46 <edcba> you can also read c++ easily
544 2011-05-14 09:19:02 <edcba> it really depends on how you use it
545 2011-05-14 09:19:09 <molecular> edcba, no, for someone that knows, say php and python, c++ can be hellish
546 2011-05-14 09:19:28 <edcba> the problem is for bitcoin original implementation all the serialization stuff is unreadable
547 2011-05-14 09:20:06 <da2ce7> doublec... my ventures need to make a proffit before I can be generous with my pay.
548 2011-05-14 09:20:30 <edcba> chicken and egg
549 2011-05-14 09:20:30 <lianj> the cpp and bitcoinj's tests helped me to port it :)
550 2011-05-14 09:20:31 <da2ce7> and If I have my way... they will be very proffitable.
551 2011-05-14 09:20:45 <sipa> BlueMatt: gcj :D
552 2011-05-14 09:21:07 <BlueMatt> sipa: comments on current encprivkeys?
553 2011-05-14 09:21:32 <BlueMatt> https://github.com/TheBlueMatt/bitcoin/commit/941784a5bd4dc0e9da51fe7a5e0af3669949d254
554 2011-05-14 09:34:23 <acfrazier> so, how to fix mysql share log failed at execute.
555 2011-05-14 09:34:28 <acfrazier> (pushpool)
556 2011-05-14 09:34:39 <acfrazier> my schema looks right.
557 2011-05-14 09:36:33 <mos> work|set your schema to allow for null values
558 2011-05-14 09:37:01 <mos> work|upstream_result and reason often have null values sent
559 2011-05-14 09:39:59 <acfrazier> mos|work, so just set all of them to default to null?
560 2011-05-14 09:40:23 <mos> work|yea
561 2011-05-14 09:41:37 <acfrazier> woot, all fixed now.
562 2011-05-14 09:41:40 <Diablo-D3> hurray
563 2011-05-14 09:41:42 <mos> work|:)
564 2011-05-14 09:41:47 <Diablo-D3> Im now down to detecting the .text section
565 2011-05-14 09:42:15 <Diablo-D3> this is motherfucking home stretch shit here
566 2011-05-14 10:20:33 <Diablo-D3> now it finds the instructions
567 2011-05-14 10:58:07 <mtrlt> but not aroused?
568 2011-05-14 10:59:08 <Diablo-D3> bfi_int patching seems to work
569 2011-05-14 10:59:20 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: is current git 0.3.22-rc? if yes, can we get a tag, if no, what is still missing?
570 2011-05-14 10:59:43 <Diablo-D3> or not
571 2011-05-14 11:09:17 <Diablo-D3> wait
572 2011-05-14 11:09:20 <Diablo-D3> the fuck?
573 2011-05-14 11:09:47 <Diablo-D3> my patching process is half broke
574 2011-05-14 11:10:19 <Diablo-D3> it repeatedly finds bads blocks...
575 2011-05-14 11:10:26 <Diablo-D3> but finds actually fucking valid ones
576 2011-05-14 11:17:22 <mtrlt> lol
577 2011-05-14 11:17:24 <Diablo-D3> and if I turn -v on, the bad blocks go away, but its slow
578 2011-05-14 11:17:25 <mtrlt> hey
579 2011-05-14 11:17:37 <mtrlt> that's what happened to me when i was trying to optimize poclbm
580 2011-05-14 11:18:11 <mtrlt> there was a part that didn't use the BFI_INT instruction so i changed it to do that. then i started getting both bad and valid shares. and then i got the "check hardware" error.
581 2011-05-14 11:18:29 <Diablo-D3> my kernel is almost identical to m0's
582 2011-05-14 11:18:34 <Diablo-D3> since we both use art's
583 2011-05-14 11:20:57 <mtrlt> yea but it could be related :P
584 2011-05-14 11:21:19 <Diablo-D3> then m0's would be broken too
585 2011-05-14 11:21:35 <mtrlt> maybe it's broken in specific circumstances
586 2011-05-14 11:21:40 <Diablo-D3> =|
587 2011-05-14 11:22:02 <mtrlt> :P
588 2011-05-14 11:42:16 <snun23> Should I buy bitcoins now? With the price jumping a few dollars a day it's killin me I didn't jump in when it was 1-$1
589 2011-05-14 11:43:13 <eps1> who knows
590 2011-05-14 11:43:46 <wumpus> it keeps surprising us all
591 2011-05-14 11:44:47 <snun23> The whole 21milion coin max is really convincing me that it's still ok to buy
592 2011-05-14 11:45:15 <snun23> like if online casino market switches to bitcoin.... thats a lot of money being dumpped into it
593 2011-05-14 11:45:58 <snun23> I wanted to buy some last night when it waas $7ish... now it's $8ish! lol
594 2011-05-14 11:48:54 <acfrazier> personally I'm going to wait for the inevitable crash.
595 2011-05-14 11:49:05 <acfrazier> then I'll buy, wait for it to go up, and then sell.
596 2011-05-14 11:49:11 <mtrlt> lol
597 2011-05-14 11:49:33 <acfrazier> until then, I'm minting my own.
598 2011-05-14 11:50:40 <snun23> I was saying that a week ago when it was 3-4 and it's just kept rising since then!
599 2011-05-14 11:50:42 <snun23> lol
600 2011-05-14 11:50:50 <mtrlt> yeah
601 2011-05-14 11:54:18 <snun23> Damn, I have to wait a few days for dwolla to add a verification to my account.  It may be a curse, it may be a blessing...
602 2011-05-14 11:55:48 <zappa> THe last time  I had to wait for money to transfer like that was when I wired it to MtGox... that was when it went from .80 to 1.80 .....
603 2011-05-14 11:57:05 <snun23> That's what I'm attempting to do, I'm just hoping it doesn't go above 10$ before I can get into the market
604 2011-05-14 11:57:43 <zappa> It will probably go about 10 today!
605 2011-05-14 11:57:55 <zappa> by the way it is going
606 2011-05-14 11:59:10 <snun23> for real man! I'm wondering what is causing this huge influx. There must a lot of people adopting bitcoin
607 2011-05-14 11:59:34 <zappa> demand
608 2011-05-14 11:59:41 <zappa> and limited supply
609 2011-05-14 11:59:48 <zappa> just getting started really
610 2011-05-14 12:01:00 <snun23> Any people out there sneaking paypal transactions that I could get some today with? Or did they all get shut down?
611 2011-05-14 12:12:56 <Diablo-D3> I think my X is screwed up
612 2011-05-14 12:15:16 <Diablo-D3> because poclbm is doing the same shit
613 2011-05-14 12:15:21 <Diablo-D3> AHAHAHA
614 2011-05-14 12:15:24 <Diablo-D3> JESUS CHRIST ON A STICK
615 2011-05-14 12:15:28 <Diablo-D3> I hit 300 mhash
616 2011-05-14 12:15:38 <Diablo-D3> no! 301!
617 2011-05-14 12:15:42 <Diablo-D3> FUCK YEAH
618 2011-05-14 12:16:08 <JFK911> are you cheating Diablo-D3
619 2011-05-14 12:16:21 <Diablo-D3> in what way?
620 2011-05-14 12:16:29 <JFK911> no idea :)
621 2011-05-14 12:16:35 <JFK911> you're the genius, not me
622 2011-05-14 12:16:49 <JFK911> except when it cames to who blame for that ssl bug
623 2011-05-14 12:16:56 <Diablo-D3> poclbm -w 128 -v -> 289
624 2011-05-14 12:16:56 <JFK911> :P~~~~
625 2011-05-14 12:17:10 <Diablo-D3> mine -w 128 -v 2 -> almost 302
626 2011-05-14 12:17:13 <JFK911> there is something interesting int he new poclbm that makes it faster
627 2011-05-14 12:17:14 <JFK911> wow
628 2011-05-14 12:17:22 <JFK911> i mean it is faster now than it was before
629 2011-05-14 12:17:50 <JFK911> i have an xp box set up now.  i could try your miner again if you commit and release whatever it is you did. :)
630 2011-05-14 12:19:09 <Diablo-D3> how the fuck do you print something in python
631 2011-05-14 12:19:32 <Diablo-D3> wait nm
632 2011-05-14 12:19:42 <Diablo-D3> no, wtf?
633 2011-05-14 12:19:56 <Diablo-D3> goddamnit I hate python
634 2011-05-14 12:19:59 <JFK911> tru
635 2011-05-14 12:20:06 <JFK911> but shouldnt there be an example in front of you
636 2011-05-14 12:20:14 <Diablo-D3> m0 does weird shit in his
637 2011-05-14 12:20:21 <JFK911> heh
638 2011-05-14 12:50:32 <BlueMatt> sipa: MinGW doesnt appear to have NameLookup
639 2011-05-14 12:50:51 <BlueMatt> wtf is NameLookup in net.cpp?
640 2011-05-14 12:51:15 <sipa> NameLookup? didn't i rename it to Lookup ?
641 2011-05-14 12:51:24 <sipa> it's a function i wrote
642 2011-05-14 12:51:30 <BlueMatt> where is it defined?
643 2011-05-14 12:51:38 <sipa> net.cpp
644 2011-05-14 12:51:41 <BlueMatt> its causing me build problems (probably missing a header)
645 2011-05-14 12:51:47 <BlueMatt> huh?
646 2011-05-14 12:52:06 <sipa> where?
647 2011-05-14 12:52:14 <sipa> ooooh
648 2011-05-14 12:52:24 <sipa> there's a NameLookup left
649 2011-05-14 12:52:31 <BlueMatt> that would cause it
650 2011-05-14 12:52:33 <sipa> it should be Lookup
651 2011-05-14 12:53:46 <BlueMatt> also, inet_aton is causing similar problems...Im looking for the proper headers which are needed...
652 2011-05-14 12:54:41 <BlueMatt> hm, mingw doesnt seem to have inet_aton
653 2011-05-14 12:54:52 <sipa> ow
654 2011-05-14 12:55:04 <sipa> there is an alternative function, which was already used
655 2011-05-14 12:55:09 <sipa> i'll fix that soon
656 2011-05-14 13:29:16 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: no -rc yet
657 2011-05-14 13:29:50 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: what is still to do? (aside from sipa fixing the build ;) )
658 2011-05-14 13:30:32 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: nothing AFAIK.  The build is broken?
659 2011-05-14 13:30:44 <BlueMatt> (on mingw, I think on linux as well)
660 2011-05-14 13:30:54 <sipa> linux is fine
661 2011-05-14 13:30:57 <sethsethseth> how do i just talk to gribble without spamming the channel
662 2011-05-14 13:31:01 <sipa> it's in the mingw specific part
663 2011-05-14 13:31:05 <BlueMatt> sethsethseth: /msg gribble
664 2011-05-14 13:31:10 <BlueMatt> ah, ok then just on mingw then
665 2011-05-14 13:32:28 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: ok, then, we're waiting on a build fix for 0.3.22-rc1 :)
666 2011-05-14 13:32:38 <BlueMatt> fair enough
667 2011-05-14 13:34:23 <BlueMatt> nice...great now I have to rebase yet again
668 2011-05-14 13:34:40 <sipa> no no, this won't be pullreq'd immediately :)
669 2011-05-14 13:34:51 <BlueMatt> oh, ok
670 2011-05-14 13:35:56 <sipa> but i'd like to see know how hard it is to move all wallet stuff to a separate class
671 2011-05-14 13:36:09 <sipa> that's more involved than just moving the code
672 2011-05-14 13:44:25 <cosurgi> bc,poolstats
673 2011-05-14 13:44:30 <cosurgi> ;;bc,poolstats
674 2011-05-14 13:44:31 <gribble> {"ghashes_ps": "229.595", "shares": 40819, "active_workers": 2359, "round_duration": "0:12:48", "score": "172459.0000", "round_started": "2011-05-14 15:31:26", "shares_cdf": "22.84", "getwork_ps": 676}
675 2011-05-14 13:45:44 <sipa> inet_aton doesn't work on windows
676 2011-05-14 13:46:05 <BlueMatt> according to my googleing, yea
677 2011-05-14 13:46:09 <doublec> sipa: in Loopup in net.cpp, if pszName is empty (ie. strlen(pszName)==0) then could strrchr(psz+1,':') be hit and index past the null character?
678 2011-05-14 13:46:24 <doublec> s/Loopup/Lookup
679 2011-05-14 13:46:39 <doublec> I haven't looked to see if there's a way of calling that with an empty pszName though
680 2011-05-14 13:46:58 <sipa> doublec: you're right, i believed i checked all those cases
681 2011-05-14 13:47:02 <sipa> but i missed this one
682 2011-05-14 13:50:59 <forrestv> why, in the getwork response, is prev_block stored as '1a693bfcba60258e481da7e524fe91c55e921e693e8745fb400000c4e00000000'
683 2011-05-14 13:51:08 <forrestv> is that ... a mix of little and big endian storage?
684 2011-05-14 13:51:11 <forrestv> wtf?
685 2011-05-14 13:51:14 <JFK911> looks like it
686 2011-05-14 13:53:50 <doublec> sipa: also, if pszName == ":1234" then it seems like pszColon[-1] will be hit which underruns the the psz array.
687 2011-05-14 13:54:29 <sipa> you're very right - the host part shouldn't ever be empty
688 2011-05-14 13:54:40 <sipa> and that's not a problem, but it should be tested
689 2011-05-14 13:54:51 <doublec> actually the psz[0] == '[' probably stops that
690 2011-05-14 13:56:35 <sipa> pszName can't be ":1234", since we only start looking for a : in the second place
691 2011-05-14 13:57:53 <sipa> but i've added an emptyness check
692 2011-05-14 13:59:00 <Pinkfear> Hi there, i'm a new user, and i have a question, when i generate Bitcoin, are they credited to my account ?
693 2011-05-14 13:59:12 <Pinkfear> (sorry for my bad englich i'm a french guy)
694 2011-05-14 13:59:23 <Diablo-D3> sipa: you use poclbm right?
695 2011-05-14 13:59:46 <sipa> Diablo-D3: yes
696 2011-05-14 14:00:02 <Diablo-D3> ever get it bitching that theres hardware errors?
697 2011-05-14 14:00:14 <sipa> yes, if i disable vectors
698 2011-05-14 14:00:24 <Diablo-D3> so its not just me?
699 2011-05-14 14:00:36 <sipa> didn't look into it further
700 2011-05-14 14:00:44 <sipa> but idneed, that was pretty strange
701 2011-05-14 14:00:46 <sipa> indeed
702 2011-05-14 14:01:00 <sipa> BlueMatt: does my current dnslookup branch compile in mingw?
703 2011-05-14 14:01:10 <Diablo-D3> Im probably going to shut off error detection then
704 2011-05-14 14:01:37 <doublec> sipa: yes good point about the looking for a : in the second place
705 2011-05-14 14:01:59 <sipa> doublec: by the way, when i told you that after difficulty 1048560 you should start checking targetF, i was wrong
706 2011-05-14 14:02:08 <sipa> eh, Diablo-D3
707 2011-05-14 14:02:18 <sipa> there's a couple more bits in nbits, so it's already the case, actually
708 2011-05-14 14:02:34 <gribble> 0000000000006A93B30000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
709 2011-05-14 14:02:34 <sipa> ;;bc,hextarget
710 2011-05-14 14:03:01 <Diablo-D3> but I dont wanna check f :<
711 2011-05-14 14:03:14 <sipa> but it's only an issue in less than 1/100000 of shares, i believe
712 2011-05-14 14:03:21 <sipa> *blocks
713 2011-05-14 14:03:27 <sipa> if you're pool mining, you won't notice
714 2011-05-14 14:03:41 <sipa> so for now you can safely ignore it, i think :D
715 2011-05-14 14:04:54 <phantomcircuit> dont all the gpu miners run a secondary check on the gpu after getting a block from the gpu?
716 2011-05-14 14:05:14 <sipa> BlueMatt: puulreq 223
717 2011-05-14 14:05:15 <Diablo-D3> phantomcircuit: not all
718 2011-05-14 14:05:17 <mtrlt> i know at least poclbm does.
719 2011-05-14 14:05:18 <Diablo-D3> mine obsessively does it
720 2011-05-14 14:05:31 <BlueMatt> sipa: hm, Im getting an issue which appears to be on my end...
721 2011-05-14 14:05:38 <Diablo-D3> its kind of sad
722 2011-05-14 14:05:43 <Diablo-D3> miners are basically chasing after mine
723 2011-05-14 14:05:47 <phantomcircuit> lol
724 2011-05-14 14:05:55 <Diablo-D3> and Im the last to get bfi int
725 2011-05-14 14:06:02 <mtrlt> Diablo-D3: release the bfi_int version and we'll see ;-)
726 2011-05-14 14:06:05 <Diablo-D3> the score thus far
727 2011-05-14 14:06:18 <sipa> BlueMatt: explain?
728 2011-05-14 14:06:21 <Diablo-D3> phoenix vectors worksize 128 bfi = 25x
729 2011-05-14 14:06:29 <Diablo-D3> poclbm -v -w 128 = 289
730 2011-05-14 14:06:48 <Diablo-D3> mine -v 2 -w 128 = 301
731 2011-05-14 14:07:01 <BlueMatt> sipa: in_addr_t not declared, probably missing a header as mingw appears to have it
732 2011-05-14 14:07:34 <phantomcircuit> in_addr_t might be a mingw only structure
733 2011-05-14 14:07:47 <phantomcircuit> nope nvm
734 2011-05-14 14:07:53 <Diablo-D3> I wonder if victory has a taste
735 2011-05-14 14:07:56 <Diablo-D3> because om nom nom nom
736 2011-05-14 14:08:07 <phantomcircuit> lulz
737 2011-05-14 14:08:13 <phantomcircuit> Diablo-D3, THE TASTE OF VICTORY
738 2011-05-14 14:08:19 <mtrlt> lol
739 2011-05-14 14:08:59 <sipa> Diablo-D3: if you push it to github, i'll try yours
740 2011-05-14 14:09:26 <sipa> wonder if you can beat poclbm's 383Mhash/s here
741 2011-05-14 14:10:30 <BlueMatt> sipa: hm, grep -r -n in_addr_t /usr/i586-mingw32msvc gives me nothing...
742 2011-05-14 14:10:39 <sipa> BlueMatt: sec
743 2011-05-14 14:11:24 <BlueMatt> sipa: it looks like many applications typedef it themsevles
744 2011-05-14 14:11:44 <sipa> blaargh
745 2011-05-14 14:11:54 <sipa> it's an unsigned int in the old code
746 2011-05-14 14:12:07 <JuanDaugherty> why is the dollar market cap exploding but the other currencies actually dropping?
747 2011-05-14 14:12:19 <sipa> who in his right mind uses a numeric type of undefined length for an ip address?
748 2011-05-14 14:12:28 <Diablo-D3> OOH
749 2011-05-14 14:12:34 <Diablo-D3> I just saw it shift to 302
750 2011-05-14 14:12:39 <Diablo-D3> GLORIOUS
751 2011-05-14 14:12:39 <TD> probably a btc/dollar bubble, not enough trade in other currencies to be reflected
752 2011-05-14 14:12:56 <phantomcircuit> JuanDaugherty, the other currencies see far less trade
753 2011-05-14 14:13:17 <phantomcircuit> so a 50% drop in them doesn't necessarily mean very much...
754 2011-05-14 14:14:15 <sipa> BlueMatt: try again?
755 2011-05-14 14:14:18 <CIA-103> DiabloMiner: Patrick McFarland master * r4a71335 / (2 files in 2 dirs): BFI_INT support - http://bit.ly/kLBYZG
756 2011-05-14 14:14:37 <Diablo-D3> and now I upload the binary
757 2011-05-14 14:16:12 <Diablo-D3> okay its uploaded
758 2011-05-14 14:17:18 <mtrlt> yay
759 2011-05-14 14:17:23 <mtrlt> test time
760 2011-05-14 14:18:35 <mtrlt> info("BFI_INT patching enabled, disabling hardware checking"); hmm :P
761 2011-05-14 14:18:47 <mtrlt> you sure about that?
762 2011-05-14 14:18:52 <Diablo-D3> does it on poclbm too
763 2011-05-14 14:19:02 <phantomcircuit> Diablo-D3, so you're patching the binary representation of the kernel so make use of a better instruction basically?
764 2011-05-14 14:19:09 <Diablo-D3> phantomcircuit: yes
765 2011-05-14 14:19:13 <Diablo-D3> and dear god I hate that code
766 2011-05-14 14:19:15 <mtrlt> ah
767 2011-05-14 14:20:02 <JuanDaugherty> why do people think anyone should care if they "hate" or "love" something?
768 2011-05-14 14:20:09 <phantomcircuit> Diablo-D3, yeah if only you could modify the opencl compiler
769 2011-05-14 14:20:12 <Diablo-D3> JuanDaugherty: because I wrote the code?
770 2011-05-14 14:20:31 <Diablo-D3> phantomcircuit: no.
771 2011-05-14 14:20:51 <JuanDaugherty> Diablo-D3, I mean't why do people say such things to others.
772 2011-05-14 14:20:56 <JuanDaugherty> *meant
773 2011-05-14 14:21:31 <BlueMatt> sipa: it builds now...
774 2011-05-14 14:22:46 <phantomcircuit> JuanDaugherty, because we were talking about that code and i was clearly implying that it's an ugly hack, so he made sure to agree?
775 2011-05-14 14:23:19 <JuanDaugherty> phantomcircuit, acknowledged.
776 2011-05-14 14:24:49 <Diablo-D3> I retested poclbm, I think 295 is the correct answer
777 2011-05-14 14:24:58 <Diablo-D3> it seems to vary
778 2011-05-14 14:25:11 <Diablo-D3> I think Im just going to put down 292 down as the average
779 2011-05-14 14:25:22 <Diablo-D3> because it bounces between 89 and 95
780 2011-05-14 14:25:58 <Diablo-D3> I. Win.
781 2011-05-14 14:27:31 <BlueMatt> oh shit, the source tree reorg that was pulled also killed the mingw build...
782 2011-05-14 14:28:12 <sipa> ?
783 2011-05-14 14:28:52 <BlueMatt> errors with moving the rc folder
784 2011-05-14 14:29:01 <BlueMatt> Ill see if the makefile can be changed in a sec...
785 2011-05-14 14:34:54 <BlueMatt> sipa: if you feel like making a commit while you are at it, makefile.mingw needs ../share/pixmaps/ in front of all the ico/bmp stuff on obj/ui_res.o and ../share/ui.rc for ui.rc
786 2011-05-14 14:35:49 <BlueMatt> oh sorry, and ui.rc needs paths updated as well
787 2011-05-14 14:47:15 <sipa> BlueMatt: can you make a pull req?
788 2011-05-14 14:47:58 <BlueMatt> sipa: yea 1 sec, my repo is all over the place trying to figure out problems so...
789 2011-05-14 14:48:44 <CIA-103> bitcoin: Pieter Wuille master * r545a679 / src/net.cpp : bugfix in dnslookup code: didn't compile in mingw - http://bit.ly/mhq1HF
790 2011-05-14 14:48:45 <CIA-103> bitcoin: Pieter Wuille master * rf53faff / src/net.cpp :
791 2011-05-14 14:51:17 <forrestv> is the merkle root encoded in the exact same way as the previous block's hash in getwork and the format used for hashing?
792 2011-05-14 14:52:53 <BlueMatt> sipa: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/224
793 2011-05-14 14:53:17 <sipa> forrestv: yes
794 2011-05-14 15:01:29 <luke-jr> jgarzik: the out-of-fds issue is caused by lots of CLOSE_WAIT sockets
795 2011-05-14 15:02:00 <forrestv> how hard would it be to implement a stub bitcoin protocol interface that only submits blocks?
796 2011-05-14 15:03:19 <phantomcircuit> forrestv, retty easy
797 2011-05-14 15:03:21 <phantomcircuit> pretty*
798 2011-05-14 15:03:53 <BlueMatt> isnt there already a network implementation
799 2011-05-14 15:04:20 <phantomcircuit> <-- yes
800 2011-05-14 15:09:08 <CIA-103> bitcoin: Matt Corallo master * rbcb971f / (share/ui.rc src/makefile.mingw): Fix MinGW build due to bad pointers to ui.rc pixmaps stuff. - http://bit.ly/kavV8l
801 2011-05-14 15:14:09 <CIA-103> DiabloMiner: Patrick McFarland master * re5e9853 / src/main/java/com/diablominer/DiabloMiner/DiabloMiner.java : Improve long username handling - http://bit.ly/k3LMxN
802 2011-05-14 15:30:10 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: FYI, only trusted devs (core guys, you, ...) may submit *.mo translations.
803 2011-05-14 15:30:22 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: outsiders may only submit *.po, and core dev must recompile *.mo from there
804 2011-05-14 15:30:44 <BlueMatt> jgarzik: yea I compiled the mo myself
805 2011-05-14 15:30:54 <BlueMatt> (for the lt translation)
806 2011-05-14 15:31:03 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: oh?  the commit is credited to someone else
807 2011-05-14 15:31:09 <BlueMatt> I made the commit
808 2011-05-14 15:31:14 <BlueMatt> for someone
809 2011-05-14 15:31:20 <BlueMatt> with git commit --author "..."
810 2011-05-14 15:31:26 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: ok, objection removed then :)
811 2011-05-14 15:31:35 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: translations are something I'd like to pull for 0.3.22-rc1
812 2011-05-14 15:32:28 <BlueMatt> up to you, though Id really like to go back sometime and look to see how many things are missing in translations, because Im pretty sure there are a couple
813 2011-05-14 15:34:15 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: you're welcome to :)
814 2011-05-14 15:35:05 <BlueMatt> yea, need to go back and look up what program is used to generate those files in the first place
815 2011-05-14 15:35:09 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: FWIW, gettext autoconf macros automatically provide a build system for that.  notably, there are makefile targets to (a) update-in-place *.po with new strings, and (b) recompile .po->.mo as necessary
816 2011-05-14 15:35:14 <BlueMatt> but Im too busy watching tv so...
817 2011-05-14 15:35:23 <jgarzik> BlueMatt: should be somewhere in gettext / intltools pkgs
818 2011-05-14 15:35:29 <BlueMatt> alright, will do
819 2011-05-14 15:40:55 <luke-jr> jgarzik: got the bug reproduced
820 2011-05-14 15:41:18 <luke-jr> jgarzik: when you make a LP request, pushpoold stops polling for read events
821 2011-05-14 15:41:32 <luke-jr> jgarzik: if you then make a LP request, then disconnect, pushpoold never cleans it up
822 2011-05-14 15:41:52 <jgarzik> luke-jr: definitely sounds like a bug
823 2011-05-14 15:42:29 <luke-jr> only *really* a problem if blkmond is not running
824 2011-05-14 15:42:33 <luke-jr> when it should be
825 2011-05-14 15:44:00 <jgarzik> luke-jr: well it sounds like LP will leak requests in any case
826 2011-05-14 15:44:16 <luke-jr> yeah
827 2011-05-14 15:44:28 <luke-jr> I imagine if blkmond were working, they would get cleaned up on new-block
828 2011-05-14 15:45:16 <draaglom> aha, that probably explains what I'm seeing
829 2011-05-14 15:45:50 <draaglom> after an indeterminate amount of time I lose long-polling
830 2011-05-14 15:46:31 <luke-jr> jgarzik: is there a reason why input should ever not be polled?