1 2011-05-30 00:00:27 <black888> but yeah 750w is good
  2 2011-05-30 00:00:28 <forexmasterja> well i thought it was the best sub $200 card that could generate at least 300mhash
  3 2011-05-30 00:01:09 <diki> any ideas why exec-ing bitcoind listtransactions might not work in php?
  4 2011-05-30 00:01:10 <black888> 5850 is the best sub $200 card
  5 2011-05-30 00:01:34 <forexmasterja> now i've revised that and from the charts the 5830 seems to be the closest to 300mhash at the cheapest price
  6 2011-05-30 00:01:48 <Diablo-D3> black888: yes but
  7 2011-05-30 00:01:51 <Diablo-D3> YOU CANT BUY THEM ANYMORE
  8 2011-05-30 00:01:53 <Diablo-D3> AT ALL
  9 2011-05-30 00:01:59 <black888> 5850 can reach 360mhash/s on stock voltage
 10 2011-05-30 00:02:05 <Diablo-D3> THE BITCOIN COMMUNITY BOUGHT THEM ALL
 11 2011-05-30 00:02:11 <black888> oh
 12 2011-05-30 00:02:16 <Diablo-D3> ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
 13 2011-05-30 00:02:17 <forexmasterja> exactly that the problem
 14 2011-05-30 00:02:24 <Diablo-D3> 68xx are shit though
 15 2011-05-30 00:02:28 <Diablo-D3> skip directly to 6950
 16 2011-05-30 00:02:30 <diki> there are quite a few in my country
 17 2011-05-30 00:02:32 <diki> expensive tho
 18 2011-05-30 00:02:33 <black888> id would probably go for the 6950 then
 19 2011-05-30 00:02:47 <Diablo-D3> it sucks 68xx is shit too
 20 2011-05-30 00:02:49 <iz> diki: maybe because it's wrapped in [ ] ?
 21 2011-05-30 00:02:52 <Diablo-D3> because they took the dp shit out
 22 2011-05-30 00:02:58 <diki> wrapped ??
 23 2011-05-30 00:03:09 <iz> or is a list
 24 2011-05-30 00:03:10 <Diablo-D3> diki does not speak english, apparently
 25 2011-05-30 00:03:19 <forexmasterja> but i havent seen 6950 for under $200
 26 2011-05-30 00:04:14 <diki> well i am not native diablo
 27 2011-05-30 00:04:25 <diki> so i dont get american jokes that much
 28 2011-05-30 00:04:33 <Diablo-D3> what joke?
 29 2011-05-30 00:04:39 <iz> diki: i mean the output from bitcoind listtransactions begins with [ and ends with ]
 30 2011-05-30 00:04:41 <black888> wow they really did buy them all
 31 2011-05-30 00:04:50 <diki> ah, lol
 32 2011-05-30 00:04:53 <Diablo-D3> black888: I think I bought one of the last ones
 33 2011-05-30 00:04:54 <fabianhjr> MagicalTux: would you accept a large MXN wire from Mexico?
 34 2011-05-30 00:04:59 <diki> i thought you were referring to the cards
 35 2011-05-30 00:05:07 <black888> yeah i bought one too
 36 2011-05-30 00:05:07 <iz> ah
 37 2011-05-30 00:05:14 <diki> Anyway, there is not output to begin with iz
 38 2011-05-30 00:05:14 <iz> haha
 39 2011-05-30 00:05:15 <fabianhjr> I got a lot of hackers dying for some that don't want to deal with PP/LR.
 40 2011-05-30 00:05:31 <MagicalTux> fabianhjr, tell me in private how large
 41 2011-05-30 00:05:43 <iz> oh, maybe i misunderstood.. i thought you were execing from the shell, not using json-rpc directly
 42 2011-05-30 00:05:56 <diki> i am doing it via php
 43 2011-05-30 00:06:23 <diki> although, now that you mention it, maybe i could try curl
 44 2011-05-30 00:06:43 <diki> didnt even think about it
 45 2011-05-30 00:06:44 <iz> but are you executing bitcoind listtransactions and then doing something w/ the output from that?  or just hitting the json-rpc directly?
 46 2011-05-30 00:06:55 <diki> i cant even get output to begin with
 47 2011-05-30 00:06:58 <iz> oh
 48 2011-05-30 00:07:04 <diki> the program does NOT execute afaik
 49 2011-05-30 00:07:11 <diki> and i even did sudo
 50 2011-05-30 00:07:17 <diki> with password of course
 51 2011-05-30 00:07:23 <diki> it just doesnt and doesnt
 52 2011-05-30 00:07:31 <diki> tried with paths, without paths
 53 2011-05-30 00:07:42 <diki> with ticks, without ticks
 54 2011-05-30 00:07:57 <lfm> diki and no error returned?
 55 2011-05-30 00:08:03 <iz> well.. prob better to do it w/ jsonrpc directly than trying to run a client in a shell that does that
 56 2011-05-30 00:08:25 <lfm> exec doesnt shell (usually)
 57 2011-05-30 00:08:36 <[Tycho]> Diablo-D3, do your miner supports LP on separate port ?
 58 2011-05-30 00:08:47 <forexmasterja> Diablo - what brand 5850 do you have ?
 59 2011-05-30 00:08:56 <Diablo-D3> [Tycho]: you have to put a full URL in the x-whatever header
 60 2011-05-30 00:09:15 <kika_> what would be the best pool alternative now that deepbit is down ?
 61 2011-05-30 00:09:23 <lfm> solo
 62 2011-05-30 00:09:40 <kika_> [Tycho]: do you have an ETA for when deepbit will go up again?
 63 2011-05-30 00:09:44 <Diablo-D3> forexmasterja: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125318+
 64 2011-05-30 00:09:45 <diki> no error at all
 65 2011-05-30 00:09:49 <JRWR> I think the bitcoin guild is teh best alt atm
 66 2011-05-30 00:09:58 <diki> using the terminal it does it, everything get's printed
 67 2011-05-30 00:10:01 <diki> using php, nada
 68 2011-05-30 00:10:07 <[Tycho]> kika_, got mining working, but LP is not ready yet.
 69 2011-05-30 00:10:32 <forexmasterja> Diablo and what speed you get from it with your miner ?
 70 2011-05-30 00:10:33 <kika_> [Tycho]: the website will go up ?
 71 2011-05-30 00:10:35 <black888> the xfx 6950s are defective btw
 72 2011-05-30 00:10:42 <Diablo-D3> forexmasterja: currently? 368
 73 2011-05-30 00:10:56 <Diablo-D3> xfx ANYTHING is defective
 74 2011-05-30 00:10:58 <Diablo-D3> shit brand is shit
 75 2011-05-30 00:11:10 <[Tycho]> kika_, yes.
 76 2011-05-30 00:11:17 <black888> these are especially defective
 77 2011-05-30 00:11:25 <Diablo-D3> [Tycho]: unlike other miners, mine speaks with a british accent
 78 2011-05-30 00:11:45 <forexmasterja> you scaring me now :( i just ordered 2 XFX 6870
 79 2011-05-30 00:11:56 <Diablo-D3> forexmasterja: you screwed up
 80 2011-05-30 00:12:05 <Diablo-D3> if its not asus, gigabyte, msi, or sapphire, its shit
 81 2011-05-30 00:12:13 <black888> forexmasterja dont worry unless they were like $50 cheaper than the other brands
 82 2011-05-30 00:12:13 <forexmasterja> Damn !!
 83 2011-05-30 00:12:42 <[Tycho]> forexmasterja, should be OK.
 84 2011-05-30 00:13:09 <black888> i have xfx 5770 it hits 1050 mhz on stock voltage it gets 240 mash/s
 85 2011-05-30 00:13:10 <io_error> Eh, my non-ref XFX 5850 is pulling 350MH/sec at 900MHz stock volts
 86 2011-05-30 00:13:12 <black888> mhash
 87 2011-05-30 00:13:28 <Diablo-D3> io_error: sounds about right
 88 2011-05-30 00:13:31 <io_error> Only problem is the fan is loud
 89 2011-05-30 00:13:31 <[Tycho]> I have XFX 5970 and it's the best of my 5970s :)
 90 2011-05-30 00:17:04 <black888> the problem with xfx is they'll sell defective hardware at a discount
 91 2011-05-30 00:17:22 <black888> but not all their cards are defective
 92 2011-05-30 00:23:46 <brocktice> So it's DDoS attacks taking down the pools?
 93 2011-05-30 00:25:25 <stuhood> brocktice: yes
 94 2011-05-30 00:27:25 <brocktice> stuhood: I've been discussing this elsewhere, but might several pools share hosting like MT has for MtGox?
 95 2011-05-30 00:27:37 <brocktice> I realize it's rather expensive
 96 2011-05-30 00:29:41 <stuhood> brocktice: there are ways of defending against this type of ddos& i think it's more a matter of the pools growing up
 97 2011-05-30 00:30:04 <brocktice> stuhood: yes... and my understanding is that the best way to get such defense is to buy it from an experienced provider.
 98 2011-05-30 00:30:31 <stuhood> i'd prefer they didn't collaborate to do so
 99 2011-05-30 00:30:51 <stuhood> i expect they're earning more than enough to make it worthwhile
100 2011-05-30 00:31:08 <brocktice> not all pools are deepbit
101 2011-05-30 00:31:23 <eamon> Why do you mine tycho? With deepbit you have a 30Ghash/s farm all to yearself for esentially free
102 2011-05-30 00:32:42 <pwrcycle> anyone know how to make this from pushpool always return true: SELECT password FROM pool_worker WHERE username = ?
103 2011-05-30 00:33:35 <brocktice> pwrcycle: do you have any entries in the table?
104 2011-05-30 00:33:39 <pwrcycle> i'm trying to get it to work so a miner can use their address like luke's
105 2011-05-30 00:33:57 <brocktice> JRWR: a few, given infinite time
106 2011-05-30 00:34:01 <pwrcycle> brocktice: yes. i have two miners running, but because i setup them up in the DB before hand
107 2011-05-30 00:34:13 <pwrcycle> i'd like for any miner to be able to join at any time without setup.
108 2011-05-30 00:34:24 <brocktice> pwrcycle: are you using poclbm?
109 2011-05-30 00:34:33 <brocktice> or you mean any person's miner?
110 2011-05-30 00:34:37 <pwrcycle> brocktice: pushpool
111 2011-05-30 00:34:46 <brocktice> no I meant for mining, so I'm guessing not
112 2011-05-30 00:34:46 <JRWR> pwrcycle: why dont you just custom compile, and include the login details into it
113 2011-05-30 00:35:09 <pwrcycle> JRWR: because i don't know c
114 2011-05-30 00:35:22 <brocktice> I must not really understand, becuase if you want people to sign up you'll need to let them register and thereby enter their info in the db
115 2011-05-30 00:35:41 <JRWR> pwrcycle: um you dont really have to, find the -u -p and where they are defined
116 2011-05-30 00:35:45 <JRWR> and make then static :)
117 2011-05-30 00:36:18 <pwrcycle> brocktice: luke-jr's will let you join his with the payaccount as the user and no pass. that's the idea i'm folowing
118 2011-05-30 00:36:54 <brocktice> pwrcycle: so it must be inserting the payaccount. Is he even using pushpool?
119 2011-05-30 00:36:54 <pwrcycle> it could be a totally anonymous pool if users only submitted accounts and never picked user ids or passwords.
120 2011-05-30 00:37:25 <pwrcycle> brocktice: i don't know, but i've heard it's something different.
121 2011-05-30 00:37:54 <brocktice> pwrcycle: yeah that would make sense. If you rig something up so that users can submit an address on a web page, then that gets added to the DB it should be possible.
122 2011-05-30 00:38:07 <brocktice> Or if you hack pushpoold, but it sounds like you're unable to do that.
123 2011-05-30 00:38:11 <pwrcycle> brocktice: i'm trying to totally bypass the web portion.
124 2011-05-30 00:38:26 <diki> fuck yeah, finally works after the gazillion trouble stuff
125 2011-05-30 00:38:29 <brocktice> You'd need to add something to insert the address (username) if it didn't already have an entry.
126 2011-05-30 00:38:31 <diki> it's almost 6AM here]
127 2011-05-30 00:38:38 <brocktice> diki: what, mining?
128 2011-05-30 00:38:47 <diki> nah
129 2011-05-30 00:38:53 <diki> just some problems with exec
130 2011-05-30 00:39:46 <pwrcycle> brocktice: yes. i was wondering if i could put two statements in that execution and just leave pushpool as it is
131 2011-05-30 00:39:52 <diki> haha, lol
132 2011-05-30 00:39:55 <diki> ;;bc,deepbit
133 2011-05-30 00:39:58 <pwrcycle> brocktice: an INSERT then SELECT
134 2011-05-30 00:40:00 <gribble> 592000
135 2011-05-30 00:40:06 <brocktice> pwrcycle: oh, I'm pretty terrible with SQL, don't ask me.
136 2011-05-30 00:40:10 <brocktice> I can just do the basics.
137 2011-05-30 00:40:11 <diki> says 1Ghash for me
138 2011-05-30 00:40:46 <pwrcycle> brocktice: but even with the username already there, i can't get the password to return true because i think pushpool is doing the comparison internally from what's submitted and what's in the lookup
139 2011-05-30 00:41:05 <diki> to execute multiple statements in one query you need transactions
140 2011-05-30 00:41:14 <diki> which are only possible if the engine is InnoDB
141 2011-05-30 00:41:25 <diki> but mandatory for pushpool type of work
142 2011-05-30 00:41:31 <brocktice> pwrcycle: You should be able to modify the statement to not check password or something?
143 2011-05-30 00:41:39 <brocktice> instead of select *?
144 2011-05-30 00:42:14 <pwrcycle> brocktice: yeah, if i could make the SELECT statement match the given password, then pushpool would be checking password = password and that would always be true
145 2011-05-30 00:42:22 <forexmasterja> I dont want to be annoying but can you check these 2 and tell me which one you would prefer for running the 2 5850's
146 2011-05-30 00:42:42 <forexmasterja> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371036  &   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009
147 2011-05-30 00:42:58 <brocktice> pwrcycle: best way would probably be to hack pushpool
148 2011-05-30 00:43:03 <pwrcycle> put this is just a config file, not an execute file.  so all i have to hack is the sql statement
149 2011-05-30 00:43:05 <brocktice> pwrcycle: you could update the password first?
150 2011-05-30 00:43:52 <fabianhjr> Night
151 2011-05-30 00:44:29 <darbsllim> pwrcycle are you starting a pool for sure?
152 2011-05-30 00:44:32 <darbsllim> or just thinking abou tit?
153 2011-05-30 00:44:53 <pwrcycle> darbsllim: i'm working on it. i have a server setup, just no frontend to add users
154 2011-05-30 00:45:11 <darbsllim> pwrcycle whats your plan with it?
155 2011-05-30 00:45:46 <pwrcycle> 1 get the money, 2 get the clothes, 3 get the women
156 2011-05-30 00:45:59 <rampone> rofl
157 2011-05-30 00:47:57 <darbsllim> haha nice
158 2011-05-30 00:48:11 <darbsllim> how many ghash do you have going?
159 2011-05-30 00:48:49 <pwrcycle> darbsllim: 0 i've just been using cpu miners on my servers to test things.
160 2011-05-30 00:49:20 <pwrcycle> darbsllim: i just got it working last night
161 2011-05-30 00:50:06 <mrb_> pwrcycle, you forgot: 4 take the clothes off
162 2011-05-30 00:50:42 <pwrcycle> mrb_: one giant leap at a time
163 2011-05-30 00:52:31 <darbsllim> pwrcycle did you get opensource stuff or hwat?
164 2011-05-30 00:53:08 <pwrcycle> yeah, from git
165 2011-05-30 00:54:51 <diki> ;;bc,calcd 280000 38.86272347
166 2011-05-30 00:54:52 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 280000 Khps, given the supplied difficulty of 38.86272347, is 9 minutes and 56 seconds
167 2011-05-30 00:55:28 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 10000 Khps, given the supplied difficulty of 38.86272347, is 4 hours, 38 minutes, and 11 seconds
168 2011-05-30 00:55:28 <JRWR> ;;bc,calcd 10000 38.86272347
169 2011-05-30 00:57:12 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 1000 Khps, given the supplied difficulty of 38.86272347, is 1 day, 22 hours, 21 minutes, and 54 seconds
170 2011-05-30 00:57:12 <JRWR> ;;bc,calcd 1000 38.86272347
171 2011-05-30 00:57:24 <JRWR> thats about right :_
172 2011-05-30 01:13:59 <Xenland> How often are blocks found on bitclockers?
173 2011-05-30 01:15:05 <gribble> Error: "gen" is not a valid command.
174 2011-05-30 01:15:05 <Xenland> ;;gen
175 2011-05-30 01:15:17 <darbsllim> ;;bc,gen 9000000000
176 2011-05-30 01:15:17 <Xenland> how do you do gen again
177 2011-05-30 01:15:18 <gribble> The expected generation output, at 9000000000 Khps, given current difficulty of 434882.7217497 , is 20815.8544189 BTC per day and 867.327267456 BTC per hour.
178 2011-05-30 01:15:29 <darbsllim> ;;bc,calc 9000000000
179 2011-05-30 01:15:29 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 9000000000 Khps, given current difficulty of 434882.7217497 , is 3 minutes and 27 seconds
180 2011-05-30 01:15:38 <darbsllim> is that right?
181 2011-05-30 01:15:40 <Xenland> That can't be right tho
182 2011-05-30 01:15:43 <darbsllim> haha
183 2011-05-30 01:15:48 <darbsllim> too many 0s
184 2011-05-30 01:15:55 <darbsllim> ;;bc,calc 9000000
185 2011-05-30 01:15:56 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 9000000 Khps, given current difficulty of 434882.7217497 , is 2 days, 9 hours, 38 minutes, and 54 seconds