1 2011-07-30 00:15:17 <lfm> nibb that should not be hard to do if you wanted.
  2 2011-07-30 00:15:17 <Rabbit67890_> NETSPLIT!!!
  3 2011-07-30 00:15:48 <b4epoche_> eh?
  4 2011-07-30 00:16:12 <b4epoche_> maybe we should have a bitcoin split like a stock split
  5 2011-07-30 00:16:22 <lfm> ni!
  6 2011-07-30 00:27:51 <nibb> Are there developers here?
  7 2011-07-30 00:29:48 <cjdelisle> I think this chan is full of devs, not all btc devs but all devs ;)
  8 2011-07-30 00:31:38 <nibb> Are there maybe post or bid on freelancers.com?
  9 2011-07-30 00:31:51 <nibb> I may need some for a bitcoin related project
 10 2011-07-30 00:32:22 <nibb> I mean freelancer.com
 11 2011-07-30 00:32:44 <cjdelisle> Around here is a good place to ask esp. if you intend on paying in btc
 12 2011-07-30 00:35:50 <JFK911> so the high cpu load does only happen when more than one gpu is active
 13 2011-07-30 00:36:06 <JFK911> i take the dummy plug off and the thing is idle
 14 2011-07-30 00:38:07 <k9quaint> JFK911: linux or windows?
 15 2011-07-30 00:38:11 <JFK911> windoze
 16 2011-07-30 00:38:18 <JFK911> i can futz around with it and get only one to load
 17 2011-07-30 00:38:48 <k9quaint> I had the CPU@100% problem with the 11.7 cat drivers loaded
 18 2011-07-30 00:38:55 <JFK911> im still on cat 10.x
 19 2011-07-30 00:38:59 <k9quaint> I backed down to 11.6 and the CPU returned to normal
 20 2011-07-30 00:39:03 <k9quaint> but I am running linux :P
 21 2011-07-30 00:39:19 <JFK911> i didnt try multiple cards with linux
 22 2011-07-30 00:39:25 <JFK911> seemed to work well with one
 23 2011-07-30 00:40:12 <JFK911> see i cant dedicate a nice computer to linux because i need to do useful work with it as well
 24 2011-07-30 00:40:27 <JFK911> ati admitted they have a problem with multi gpu's tho
 25 2011-07-30 00:40:38 <JFK911> and i think they are being convinced 11.7 makes this worse for everyone
 26 2011-07-30 00:58:38 <MaggyO> how many confirmed should someone wait for before trusting the btc has transfered
 27 2011-07-30 01:00:54 <forrestv> anyone here know about merged mining? specifically the format of the primary chain's coinbase?
 28 2011-07-30 01:01:51 <jine> Noticed that another pool was giving away Google Adword Vouchers, if anyone would like one for FREE, NOW - please read our thread: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10121.msg411797#msg411797 - I'm doing this for the bitcoin community and bitcoin-related sites :)
 29 2011-07-30 01:16:37 <sacarlson> would this be the smallest difficulty possible in nBits format nbits = 1dffffff  = dDiff dec = 0.00390619062818233 ?
 30 2011-07-30 01:33:46 <sacarlson> I think this might still work nbits = 1fffffff = dDiff dec = 5.96037388333485e-08,  I guess only one way to find out is to try it
 31 2011-07-30 02:08:40 <forrestv> anybody know why the coinbase contains the compressed target?
 32 2011-07-30 02:54:34 <luke-jr> forrestv: mine don't
 33 2011-07-30 03:34:41 <luke-jr_> ;;bc,stats
 34 2011-07-30 03:34:44 <gribble> Current Blocks: 138740 | Current Difficulty: 1690895.8030524 | Next Difficulty At Block: 139103 | Next Difficulty In: 363 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 4 hours, 19 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1864378.50462408
 35 2011-07-30 04:11:18 <aviadbd> i'm still confused with the result of "getwork"
 36 2011-07-30 04:11:30 <aviadbd> it returns a 256 characters result for the "data" field.
 37 2011-07-30 04:11:43 <aviadbd> however, a block header should be 80 bytes, hence 160 characters.
 38 2011-07-30 04:11:46 <aviadbd> what gives? :)
 39 2011-07-30 04:11:53 <luke-jr_> just cut it
 40 2011-07-30 04:12:40 <aviadbd> luke-jr_: but cut where?
 41 2011-07-30 04:13:07 <aviadbd> luke-jr_: for that matter, is there a way to get the result of "getwork" for a block I see in blockexplorer?
 42 2011-07-30 04:16:52 <pixglen> If I receive bitcoins on multiple address, and I send out some bitcoins e.g. using JSON RPC "sendtoaddress", what sending address does bitcoin choose?
 43 2011-07-30 04:21:50 <aviadbd_> damn was disconnected.
 44 2011-07-30 04:22:01 <aviadbd_> luke-jr_: did you answer?
 45 2011-07-30 04:22:06 <aviadbd_> pixglen: why not use sendfrom?
 46 2011-07-30 04:23:44 <aviadbd_> pixglen: unless its an understanding question :P
 47 2011-07-30 04:23:52 <aviadbd_> pixglen: if so, i dont understand :)
 48 2011-07-30 04:26:17 <aviadbd_> wow... dead channel... :/
 49 2011-07-30 05:18:47 <pixglen> aviadbd: it is an understanding question
 50 2011-07-30 05:21:57 <aviadbd> well, im away - i hope someone can pick up my question.
 51 2011-07-30 05:50:11 <Rabbit67890> @pot
 52 2011-07-30 05:50:13 <SuprTiggr> Rabbit67890: Error: "pot" is not a valid command.
 53 2011-07-30 05:52:16 <Rabbit67890> @pot
 54 2011-07-30 05:52:18 <SuprTiggr> Rabbit67890: Error: "pot" is not a valid command.
 55 2011-07-30 05:52:23 <coingenuity> lol
 56 2011-07-30 05:52:34 <coingenuity> you're straight-edge suprtiggr
 57 2011-07-30 06:15:14 <coingenuity> @pot
 58 2011-07-30 06:15:16 <SuprTiggr> coingenuity: Error: "pot" is not a valid command.
 59 2011-07-30 06:22:00 <aviadbd> pixglen: i would guess it uses the "main" account - but i can't see an API command to change any account to be "main"
 60 2011-07-30 06:23:06 <pixglen> aviadbd: i suppose it would be main, but what is the sender address?
 61 2011-07-30 06:23:31 <aviadbd> pixglen: what do you mean? the main *is* an address, isnt it?
 62 2011-07-30 06:24:31 <pixglen> aviadbd: say i receive into my addresses a, b and c; i then send out to someone, which one does the bitcoin pick or does it use a new address?
 63 2011-07-30 06:24:58 <aviadbd> maybe it uses the last one used by "sendfrom"
 64 2011-07-30 06:25:01 <aviadbd> ?
 65 2011-07-30 06:25:22 <aviadbd> its easy to check through the code i suppose
 66 2011-07-30 06:25:26 <aviadbd> (or should be easy)
 67 2011-07-30 06:36:06 <aviadbd> Did you guys see this, btw? http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/30763/bitcoin-crypto-currency?referrer=tf128yAJh5fspDOgXlkhmg2
 68 2011-07-30 06:42:35 <Rabbit67890> just saw it
 69 2011-07-30 06:42:46 <Rabbit67890> commiting
 70 2011-07-30 07:02:49 <aviadbd> Rabbit67890: great
 71 2011-07-30 07:02:50 <aviadbd> :)
 72 2011-07-30 07:02:56 <Rabbit67890> ?
 73 2011-07-30 07:05:45 <zamgo> "or other crypto-currencies"
 74 2011-07-30 07:06:46 <zamgo> namecoin, etc
 75 2011-07-30 07:08:52 <cjdelisle> I think it would be good for questions about wallets and script and the crypto stuff.
 76 2011-07-30 07:09:27 <cjdelisle> It seems that the forum kind of died of, well... forum syndrome.
 77 2011-07-30 07:10:11 <kreal-> when I do  ./bitcoind sendfrom "blah" address, it generates a new address in my bitcoind right?
 78 2011-07-30 07:10:52 <cjdelisle> ^that is an on-topic question +1
 79 2011-07-30 07:11:37 <cjdelisle> mm no you can't generate new addresses to send from because you can only send from addresses which other people have sent to.
 80 2011-07-30 07:12:32 <kreal-> http://blockexplorer.com/tx/e5554864a9fb70bfbf747eeec425d91de296e706abc061e8cc24046ba9321fff
 81 2011-07-30 07:12:36 <kreal-> lets take that txid
 82 2011-07-30 07:12:58 <kreal-> I just send 0.1, and as far as I see it the From address now belongs to me right.
 83 2011-07-30 07:13:46 <cjdelisle> if 17L55HJB5kCVyPMfR9SaM92oXwz3XYS5uX is your address, you can "sign over" that 0.1 to someone else
 84 2011-07-30 07:14:07 <kreal-> it is not, it was the address I sent to.
 85 2011-07-30 07:14:16 <cjdelisle> but that's the address it will use to do it, you can't invent an address and have btc be "in it"
 86 2011-07-30 07:14:57 <cjdelisle> yea that from addr is one of yours
 87 2011-07-30 07:15:25 <cjdelisle> it was probably generated the last time you got paid
 88 2011-07-30 07:15:41 <kreal-> hmm
 89 2011-07-30 07:17:22 <cjdelisle> so when you see a tx with a crapload of inputs, it's because someone has a ton of addresses and each one has a little bit of money to it's name, so they had to use them all as inputs.
 90 2011-07-30 07:17:49 <kreal-> right, makes sense thanks.
 91 2011-07-30 07:18:35 <cjdelisle> sure thing
 92 2011-07-30 07:19:37 <kreal-> now for finding blockexplorer api, so I can parse input out.
 93 2011-07-30 07:19:48 <kreal-> oh if not, use domdocument...
 94 2011-07-30 07:20:05 <cjdelisle> what do you want to know?
 95 2011-07-30 07:20:43 <kreal-> oh well just wanted to grep the Inputs to my own site.
 96 2011-07-30 07:21:50 <cjdelisle> a friend of mine made an eggdrop which tells you the balance when you paste something it recognizes as an addr
 97 2011-07-30 07:22:15 <cjdelisle> 05:26 <@bitbawt> 17L55HJB5kCVyPMfR9SaM92oXwz3XYS5uX has 0.10000000 BTC.
 98 2011-07-30 07:22:33 <kreal-> parsed from blockexplorer?
 99 2011-07-30 07:22:55 <cjdelisle> yea, there's a api call   bex.com/q
100 2011-07-30 07:23:27 <kreal-> blockexplorer.com/q right
101 2011-07-30 07:23:45 <cjdelisle> http://blockexplorer.com/q/getreceivedbyaddress/15N88gCoJU2pHguHPqFNCapXKvke7UCzr3
102 2011-07-30 07:32:59 <euphoria> ????????????????
103 2011-07-30 07:38:00 <wirehead> what kind of bandwidth does hosting a pool require?
104 2011-07-30 07:38:19 <wirehead> n/m, I will look it up
105 2011-07-30 07:39:51 <copumpkin> I'd imagine pretty small
106 2011-07-30 07:40:03 <copumpkin> requests and responses are pretty smal
107 2011-07-30 07:43:40 <cjdelisle> host it on google app engine... umad kiddies?
108 2011-07-30 07:44:13 <kreal-> wirehead shameless advertising.
109 2011-07-30 07:44:17 <kreal-> gbyte.dk/purchase
110 2011-07-30 07:46:04 <copumpkin> kreal-: why can't we purchase the ionCube one in btc? :P
111 2011-07-30 07:46:26 <kreal-> good question
112 2011-07-30 07:46:30 <kreal-> why?
113 2011-07-30 07:49:32 <kreal-> copumpkin rectified
114 2011-07-30 07:49:42 <copumpkin> mmm!
115 2011-07-30 07:51:26 <copumpkin> holy shit
116 2011-07-30 07:51:28 <copumpkin> they killed magic quotes
117 2011-07-30 07:51:45 <Eliel> about time
118 2011-07-30 07:52:12 <shockedATTux> indeed
119 2011-07-30 07:52:24 <shockedATTux> they were one of the worst crappy bses in ph
120 2011-07-30 07:52:26 <shockedATTux> p
121 2011-07-30 07:52:59 <shockedATTux> the concept of the 'magic quotes' is totally wrong
122 2011-07-30 07:53:03 <Eliel> yep, always ended up getting extra slashed in the content.
123 2011-07-30 07:53:33 <TuxBlackEdo> shockedattux?
124 2011-07-30 07:53:35 <Eliel> and then I got to make the code to check if the slashes are turned on and remove them if they are
125 2011-07-30 07:54:28 <shockedATTux> TuxBlackEdo: what ?
126 2011-07-30 07:54:59 <TuxBlackEdo> what? you wanna go?
127 2011-07-30 07:55:18 <shockedATTux> i'm SHOCKED at magical tux for claiming on mtgox site that 'funds can be redeemed at any time' and 'btc withdrawal limit can be increased by sending an email at any time'
128 2011-07-30 07:55:32 <shockedATTux> when in reality it cant be done because of some unspecificied 'legal problems'
129 2011-07-30 07:55:45 <TuxBlackEdo> use tradehill
130 2011-07-30 07:55:49 <TuxBlackEdo> much better
131 2011-07-30 07:55:56 <shockedATTux> how, getting funds out is not possible ;D
132 2011-07-30 07:56:27 <cjdelisle> how did you get them in?
133 2011-07-30 07:56:30 <random_cat> you haven't visited #bitcoin-otc
134 2011-07-30 07:56:35 <copumpkin> it's write-only
135 2011-07-30 07:56:46 <shockedATTux> cjdelisle: my sending bank transfer
136 2011-07-30 07:57:20 <cjdelisle> and they won't wire back to the same account?
137 2011-07-30 07:59:34 <shockedATTux> no, its limited to 1000$/day and 100btc/day
138 2011-07-30 07:59:40 <shockedATTux> like a trap :)
139 2011-07-30 08:00:25 <cjdelisle> Do you mind me asking how much you have?
140 2011-07-30 08:01:23 <Marf_sleep> i bet 101 btc ;)
141 2011-07-30 08:01:57 <shockedATTux> :)
142 2011-07-30 08:08:16 <gjs278> I have 57
143 2011-07-30 08:15:13 <TuxBlackEdo> i have 1 bitcoin
144 2011-07-30 08:15:46 <copumpkin> yay
145 2011-07-30 08:15:57 <copumpkin> enjoying it?
146 2011-07-30 08:18:17 <sipa> ;;later tell BlueMatt encryption a wallet causes the TxnCommit() call to fail and exit here... :s
147 2011-07-30 08:18:18 <gribble> The operation succeeded.
148 2011-07-30 08:19:04 <gribble> The operation succeeded.
149 2011-07-30 08:19:04 <sipa> ;;later tell wumpus It seems the address book in bitcoin-qt doesn't show all sending addresses, even though transactions to them do show the name of the address
150 2011-07-30 08:31:56 <sipa> BlueMatt: encryption a wallet causes the TxnCommit() call to fail and exit here...
151 2011-07-30 08:42:09 <vragnaroda> da2ce7: stop that please
152 2011-07-30 08:42:39 <vragnaroda> haha, got it in with perfect timing
153 2011-07-30 08:48:03 <BlueMatt> sipa: TxnCommit should never fail?
154 2011-07-30 08:48:33 <sipa> it does here, consistently
155 2011-07-30 08:48:44 <sipa> i wonder whether there is something wrong with my setup
156 2011-07-30 08:51:58 <BlueMatt> wfm
157 2011-07-30 09:43:56 <TheZagitta> Any hardware nerd around that feel like helping me choose between two cpu's?
158 2011-07-30 09:44:05 <BlueMatt> #hardware
159 2011-07-30 09:44:23 <sipa> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
160 2011-07-30 09:46:13 <BlueMatt> go for high cache and see what you might want to use of the fancy features of modern processors and check that
161 2011-07-30 09:46:14 <TheZagitta> uh thanks BlueMatt, sipa: it's more complicated than that ;)
162 2011-07-30 09:46:30 <BlueMatt> (ie hdd encryption, make sure you have processor aes...)
163 2011-07-30 09:46:47 <TheZagitta> oh it's just a choice between two used cpu's
164 2011-07-30 09:47:00 <BlueMatt> oh
165 2011-07-30 09:47:31 <TheZagitta> because i want to upgrade my rig but i don't really have the money to go for mb, ram and i5 cpu atm as i'm moving out soonish
166 2011-07-30 09:49:25 <TheZagitta> so i found a cheap QX6850 (130$) and Q9550 (150$)... however if OC comes into the equation i don't know wich one to pick
167 2011-07-30 09:49:49 <gjs278> neither
168 2011-07-30 09:49:58 <gjs278> i5-2500k has been on sale as low as $150
169 2011-07-30 09:50:05 <gjs278> it would be a waste to buy anything 775
170 2011-07-30 09:50:36 <gjs278> especially at those prices
171 2011-07-30 09:51:11 <gjs278> keep in mind with an openbox mobo from newegg and 4 - 8 gb of 1333 ram, you basically spend about $120 for that and then $150 for the cpu
172 2011-07-30 09:53:04 <TheZagitta> well it ain't that cheap in denmark i can tell you
173 2011-07-30 09:53:08 <gjs278> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138317R
174 2011-07-30 09:53:10 <gjs278> oh
175 2011-07-30 09:53:11 <gjs278> no newegg
176 2011-07-30 09:53:16 <TheZagitta> nope no newegg
177 2011-07-30 09:53:26 <gjs278> don't go there and browse around you'll be sad
178 2011-07-30 09:53:32 <TheZagitta> i know lol
179 2011-07-30 09:54:18 <TheZagitta> 600$ is about the cheapest you can get a mb, ram and i5-2500k for in denmark
180 2011-07-30 09:54:30 <BlueMatt> then dont buy in denmark
181 2011-07-30 09:54:56 <mabus> his question was pretty simple
182 2011-07-30 09:54:57 <TheZagitta> it's not cheaper getting it from anywhere in europe either because of shipping...
183 2011-07-30 09:55:43 <gjs278> Q9550 of your choices is the better
184 2011-07-30 09:56:23 <TheZagitta> I'm quite close to a girl in the US though, i wonder what it would cost to get it from newegg and then have her ship it to denmark