1 2011-08-21 00:10:33 <jjjrmy> anyone know Google App Inventor?
  2 2011-08-21 00:38:27 <Frozenlock> Hello folks, I have a little question: If I have 10 BTC and later receive 1 BTC to the same address, it's still possible to differentiate the 10 from 1 and send them individually right? (even if it's not implemented)
  3 2011-08-21 00:39:30 <RealSolid> im fairly sure the coins arent dilinearated in the address itself, the address just stores a tally of coins in it
  4 2011-08-21 00:39:39 <RealSolid> however youll always have the two tx you can look at
  5 2011-08-21 00:41:55 <Frozenlock> Thanks!
  6 2011-08-21 00:51:51 <squeamish> I'm trying to collect some getworks with a large number of shares anyone have any? My best have 6 shares.
  7 2011-08-21 01:21:57 <owowo> ;;bc,diffchange
  8 2011-08-21 01:21:58 <gribble> -1.8311675749 % estimated difficulty change this period
  9 2011-08-21 03:19:57 <Diablo-D3> ;;bc,mtgox
 10 2011-08-21 03:19:58 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":11.59,"low":11.4,"avg":11.475157218,"vwap":11.474659687,"vol":7707,"last":11.43199,"buy":11.432,"sell":11.47407}}
 11 2011-08-21 05:30:21 <SomeoneWeird> #bitcoin-hoppers
 12 2011-08-21 05:30:23 <SomeoneWeird> gr
 13 2011-08-21 05:30:32 <SomeoneWeird> lawl noone in there
 14 2011-08-21 09:35:00 <makomk> Entirely non-hypothetically: what impact on security would a three minute block target, difficulty adjustments every 12 hours, and a cap of 10% on difficulty increases have on a Bitcoin clone that's running at a block every few seconds right now?
 15 2011-08-21 09:35:43 <lfm> huh?
 16 2011-08-21 09:37:11 <lfm> makomk: is this for some alternate block chain?
 17 2011-08-21 09:37:26 <Eliel> lfm: stablecoin
 18 2011-08-21 09:37:42 <Eliel> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38453.0
 19 2011-08-21 09:38:13 <JFK911> sounds like its made for miners lol
 20 2011-08-21 09:38:22 <JFK911> stable revenue for miners
 21 2011-08-21 09:39:03 <Eliel> everyone is going hot about this faster blocks thing... However, doesn't sound to me like it really would increase the speed of transaction confirmation.
 22 2011-08-21 09:39:22 <Eliel> it'd just make each individual confirmation weaker
 23 2011-08-21 09:39:31 <lfm> the 3 minute per block target would probably make for more fork collissions, the frequent difficulty adjustments can make timing attacks easier I think. dunno what effect a 10% increase cap would have
 24 2011-08-21 09:41:02 <lfm> if you are doing a block every few seconds it should soon triffer a difficulty adjustment
 25 2011-08-21 09:41:10 <Eliel> lfm: I believe it's an attempt to keep the network operational even with a big pool coming in, milking the network dry and then leaving when difficulty is high enough that it's no longer more profitable.
 26 2011-08-21 09:41:33 <lfm> trigger
 27 2011-08-21 09:43:10 <Eliel> adjusting difficulty often but based on the last 2016 blocks each time would probably make for a smoother "ride" :)
 28 2011-08-21 09:43:17 <lfm> the 10% cap allows the pool or farm to milk you for a longer period.
 29 2011-08-21 09:43:54 <Eliel> lfm: yes, it's not to prevent milking but rather deliberate sabotage.
 30 2011-08-21 09:44:33 <RealSolid> Eliel: exactly, high confirms always
 31 2011-08-21 09:45:12 <RealSolid> instead of waiting 3+ hours for a btc transaction
 32 2011-08-21 09:45:54 <Eliel> RealSolid: are you behind solidcoin?
 33 2011-08-21 09:46:16 <lfm> is it 10 % limited going down too? bitcoin is 400% limited both ways
 34 2011-08-21 09:46:16 <RealSolid> Eliel: i coded the changes, but am i the biggest solidcoin stakeholder? no
 35 2011-08-21 09:46:20 <makomk> Eliel: yeah, I'm trying to figure out if it'd actually increase how long you'd have to wait to be sure a transaction had confirmed.
 36 2011-08-21 09:46:27 <RealSolid> i wanted an improved BTC, so i made it
 37 2011-08-21 09:46:31 <makomk> lfm: nope, it can decrease by the full 400%
 38 2011-08-21 09:46:32 <Eliel> makomk: I don't think so.
 39 2011-08-21 09:46:51 <RealSolid> 400% every 12 hours
 40 2011-08-21 09:46:56 <RealSolid> instead of 2 weeks also
 41 2011-08-21 09:47:13 <Eliel> makomk: waiting for less time means less power behind the confirmation.
 42 2011-08-21 09:47:33 <Eliel> makomk: it's the amount of work needed for the confirmation that makes things confirmed, not the time.
 43 2011-08-21 09:47:46 <RealSolid> Eliel: not necessarily true
 44 2011-08-21 09:47:52 <makomk> Yeah, I was partly wondering if the difficulty changes might have a negative impact.
 45 2011-08-21 09:48:04 <RealSolid> Eliel: they were confing things pretty early at diff 4 in the early BTC days :)
 46 2011-08-21 09:48:25 <lfm> I think those changes taken together will also make your dificulty more unsatble actually just from random variations even when there is stable mining power
 47 2011-08-21 09:48:30 <RealSolid> the question is how hard is it to attack the network? that depends on difficulty to some extent and the amount of money you have to expend
 48 2011-08-21 09:48:48 <makomk> Also, it's not true that work done and time are the only factors...
 49 2011-08-21 09:48:49 <RealSolid> lfm: high confirms isnt a problem, low is
 50 2011-08-21 09:49:06 <makomk> There are some interesting problems with single confirmations.
 51 2011-08-21 09:49:14 <RealSolid> lfm: currently the network is running at a block every 3 seconds, and there is no chain forking
 52 2011-08-21 09:49:16 <lfm> RealSolid: ya you could get low due to random variations too
 53 2011-08-21 09:49:17 <Eliel> RealSolid: did you also shorten the period of time from which the network hashrate is calculated?
 54 2011-08-21 09:49:45 <RealSolid> eliel: its based on blocks solved
 55 2011-08-21 09:49:46 <lfm> RealSolid: not all nodes see all forks
 56 2011-08-21 09:50:10 <RealSolid> lfm: even at low difficulty the network is stable and secure, is the point, with blocks every 3 seconds
 57 2011-08-21 09:50:19 <RealSolid> to think 3 minutes = crazy is a bit silly knowing the factors
 58 2011-08-21 09:50:33 <makomk> RealSolid: are you running a hard-coded seed node by any chance?
 59 2011-08-21 09:50:42 <RealSolid> makomk: yes
 60 2011-08-21 09:50:53 <makomk> Ah, that explains a lot.
 61 2011-08-21 09:50:56 <RealSolid> why
 62 2011-08-21 09:51:50 <makomk> If you're the seed node you'll see every block fast. If everyone's connected to the seed node it'll distribute blocks to everyone fast... until the network grows and it can't.
 63 2011-08-21 09:52:12 <RealSolid> makomk: im not the seed node
 64 2011-08-21 09:52:34 <RealSolid> but like i said, if the network was splitting, we would be seeing missed tx's, people getting bitchy on the forums/irc, etc
 65 2011-08-21 09:52:58 <makomk> Oh dear. I'm going to have to set up some kind of block explorer, aren't I?
 66 2011-08-21 09:53:00 <RealSolid> i've seen 3 chains start off now, and none of them have had any issues (besides a few miners being pissed about orphans)
 67 2011-08-21 09:53:20 <RealSolid> and this is with <3sec blocks
 68 2011-08-21 09:53:24 <makomk> RealSolid: orphans are short-lived forks.
 69 2011-08-21 09:53:31 <RealSolid> makomk: i know
 70 2011-08-21 09:53:45 <lfm> RealSolid: huh? orphans are just one block long forks! so you are having forks
 71 2011-08-21 09:53:47 <RealSolid> as long as they are short lived and happen to only one or two miners, whats the issue :P
 72 2011-08-21 09:53:54 <cjdelisle> which is doing 3 second blocks?
 73 2011-08-21 09:54:12 <RealSolid> miners != users, they are trying to win something
 74 2011-08-21 09:54:17 <RealSolid> if they get orphans, no big deal
 75 2011-08-21 09:54:37 <lfm> RealSolid: if you have no miners, you have nothing
 76 2011-08-21 09:54:53 <RealSolid> lfm: sure , and orphans arent really a concern once difficulty increases high enough
 77 2011-08-21 09:55:07 <RealSolid> my only point is BTC gets orphans now, SC will get more orphans, but they arent the end of the world
 78 2011-08-21 09:55:24 <RealSolid> its the people promoting 10min blocks with no valid reasoning that need to be questioned imo
 79 2011-08-21 09:55:50 <RealSolid> BTC has had blocks go for nearly 90 minutes recently
 80 2011-08-21 09:55:55 <RealSolid> businesses cant build on that
 81 2011-08-21 09:56:08 <lfm> RealSolid: well if oyu had 5000 nodes you might have a point
 82 2011-08-21 09:56:23 <RealSolid> lfm: slow nodes need to get off the network,
 83 2011-08-21 09:56:30 <RealSolid> http://solidcoin.info/faq.php
 84 2011-08-21 09:56:51 <RealSolid> how many dialup nodes does visa have?
 85 2011-08-21 09:57:08 <lfm> huh? hwo is that relevant?
 86 2011-08-21 09:57:21 <RealSolid> its relevant because they are the competition when it comes to transfers
 87 2011-08-21 09:57:27 <diki> here is another suggestion
 88 2011-08-21 09:57:29 <RealSolid> you want to beat the best
 89 2011-08-21 09:57:35 <diki> make bitcoin's ui more user friendly to old people
 90 2011-08-21 09:57:40 <diki> i.e people who cant see well
 91 2011-08-21 09:57:45 <diki> and add a audio pronounciator
 92 2011-08-21 09:57:51 <diki> who will read them the balance
 93 2011-08-21 09:57:54 <lfm> bah, old people are just gonna die soon so you wasted your time
 94 2011-08-21 09:58:00 <RealSolid> haha
 95 2011-08-21 09:58:11 <RealSolid> diki: its a good idea actually
 96 2011-08-21 09:58:26 <RealSolid> diki: the problem is many people who like BTC dont like making things simple ;)
 97 2011-08-21 09:59:06 <cjdelisle> Interesting idea re speeding up the chain, how fast can it go? 1 second?
 98 2011-08-21 09:59:07 <lfm> ui issues are boring to work on. when you got volunteers doing work the boring crap is not gonna happen
 99 2011-08-21 09:59:20 <RealSolid> cjdelisle: depends on how many nodes you limit to
100 2011-08-21 09:59:37 <RealSolid> cjdelisle: but 3 minutes is getting close to good risk management for instant transfers
101 2011-08-21 09:59:47 <RealSolid> or near - instant
102 2011-08-21 09:59:59 <RealSolid> which is what vendors/businesses want
103 2011-08-21 10:00:29 <cjdelisle> Then there's the problem of data storage, how long will it take to reach a gigabyte of chain?
104 2011-08-21 10:00:38 <lfm> you realize that if you make the blocks happen more often, you need more blocks for good risk managment
105 2011-08-21 10:00:45 <RealSolid> cjdelisle: i have ideas to solve this, but they arent needed yet
106 2011-08-21 10:01:09 <cjdelisle> I have an idea to solve it but it's complicated as hell
107 2011-08-21 10:01:10 <RealSolid> cjdelisle: if solidcoin fails then hopefully it helps whoever carries the flame after me
108 2011-08-21 10:01:29 <RealSolid> because im not going to make much money from SC, and i dont care
109 2011-08-21 10:01:37 <cjdelisle> /nod
110 2011-08-21 10:01:37 <RealSolid> because what i want is a better system
111 2011-08-21 10:01:41 <phungus> CosbyCoin can not fail
112 2011-08-21 10:01:52 <phungus> because it's Bill Cosby
113 2011-08-21 10:02:11 <lfm> phungus: cosby coin? with a puddin pop proof of work?
114 2011-08-21 10:02:17 <phungus> heh
115 2011-08-21 10:02:24 <phungus> yes, a Jell-o Puddin Pop
116 2011-08-21 10:02:46 <phungus> http://i.imgur.com/eJ0IA.gif
117 2011-08-21 10:08:02 <diki> heh yeah
118 2011-08-21 10:08:06 <diki> i also captured that
119 2011-08-21 10:08:19 <lfm> ?
120 2011-08-21 10:11:45 <mtrlt> argh
121 2011-08-21 10:11:51 <mtrlt> i hate software that puts everything on the c: drive
122 2011-08-21 10:12:06 <mtrlt> (by default)
123 2011-08-21 10:12:31 <SomeoneWeird> yep
124 2011-08-21 10:12:59 <cjdelisle> Your idea of a fast chain gave me an interesting idea. Suppose you had a fast chain where each block contained the mercal root of the last block as a branch. Then users with storage constraints can keep the headers which happen to have the most work.
125 2011-08-21 10:14:56 <cjdelisle> Based on the assumption, which pools make, that even with a difficulty low enough to have a block every second, a small percentage of the blocks will still be very difficult just by accident.
126 2011-08-21 10:16:20 <mtrlt> what would that imply? i don't get it.
127 2011-08-21 10:18:05 <cjdelisle> you would get a block every few seconds and you'd also have a chain of headers which can still be stored on a cell phone after a year or two of it running.
128 2011-08-21 10:18:41 <mtrlt> how do you have a chain of headers if you only store some of them
129 2011-08-21 10:18:50 <RealSolid> cjdelisle: the btc network can already be used on low cpu/memory phones
130 2011-08-21 10:18:57 <RealSolid> we just need the right development software
131 2011-08-21 10:19:18 <cjdelisle> Don't you need the full chain of headers?
132 2011-08-21 10:19:27 <RealSolid> nope
133 2011-08-21 10:19:38 <RealSolid> you could do a random sampling of say 10 nodes ask them about a tx
134 2011-08-21 10:19:44 <RealSolid> you could have a trusted node concept
135 2011-08-21 10:19:46 <RealSolid> on top of that
136 2011-08-21 10:19:49 <cjdelisle> ahh ok
137 2011-08-21 10:19:54 <RealSolid> ask 5 trusted nodes = 5 random
138 2011-08-21 10:19:59 <RealSolid> 10 oks? go
139 2011-08-21 10:20:12 <RealSolid> 5+5 rather
140 2011-08-21 10:20:54 <RealSolid> ill likely add the appropriate API to solidcoin soon
141 2011-08-21 10:21:04 <cjdelisle> I like provable though :)
142 2011-08-21 10:21:31 <RealSolid> cjdelisle: thats the beauty of btc, people like us can do that
143 2011-08-21 10:22:09 <makomk> RealSolid: two words: sybil attack
144 2011-08-21 10:22:47 <RealSolid> makomk: hence "trusted"
145 2011-08-21 10:23:08 <cjdelisle> I think it should be possible to store a relitively small amount of data (select headers) and from that and access to a dht, be able to prove that a given transaction is valid.
146 2011-08-21 10:23:40 <makomk> Which means you have to find 5 node ownerrs whose identities are known and who won't compromise their nodes even if (say) they and their families are threatened.
147 2011-08-21 10:24:13 <RealSolid> makomk: yes in the future ofhow I see SolidCoin if it succeeds, there will be incentive to be trusted
148 2011-08-21 10:24:16 <RealSolid> as youll receive money
149 2011-08-21 10:24:39 <RealSolid> if 5 trusted and 5 random say your transaction exists, your transaction has a high chance of existing
150 2011-08-21 10:25:29 <cjdelisle> I would be more worried about denial of service combined with a sybil attack.
151 2011-08-21 10:26:27 <RealSolid> cjdelisle: if you have say 50 trusted nodes, you would randomly select 5
152 2011-08-21 10:26:39 <RealSolid> running some attack on this premise is costly and likely to fail most of the time
153 2011-08-21 10:26:51 <RealSolid> of course there could be many more trusted nodes than 50
154 2011-08-21 10:27:20 <cjdelisle> it's an interesting idea anyway
155 2011-08-21 10:27:28 <cjdelisle> I hope you do well with it.
156 2011-08-21 10:32:53 <lfm> I would think you'd only need one trusted node.
157 2011-08-21 10:35:10 <lfm> the whole point of distributed net is how many untrasted nodes do you need when you dont have any trusted nodes
158 2011-08-21 10:35:46 <RealSolid> lfm: you cant run a visa enterprise on current btc network
159 2011-08-21 10:36:02 <makomk> lfm: the trusted node could be deceived itself.
160 2011-08-21 10:36:10 <RealSolid> the technical details are irrelevant, what BTC can deliver in regards to end benefits are praise worthy
161 2011-08-21 10:36:27 <lfm> well if the trusted node can be deceived then you should not be trusting it
162 2011-08-21 10:36:29 <cjdelisle> Another interesting research problem is how to regulate the chain speed when the network begins to be more of a bottleneck than the difficulty.
163 2011-08-21 10:40:29 <lfm> I dunno what a "visa enterprise" is. and I don't know what you mean by either the net or the difficulty being a bottleneck
164 2011-08-21 12:59:29 <bernie> hey, where's the venue for today's hacking session?
165 2011-08-21 12:59:51 <bernie> nanotube: ^^^
166 2011-08-21 13:20:18 <jjjrmy> Need help with App Inventor, anyone know it
167 2011-08-21 13:34:51 <jjjrmy> 1Bitcoin is worth $11.50
168 2011-08-21 13:34:53 <jjjrmy> oops
169 2011-08-21 13:35:04 <jjjrmy> http://www.screenr.com/ungs
170 2011-08-21 13:40:03 <asher^> anyone here running bitcoind with 4diff patches?
171 2011-08-21 13:40:10 <asher^> version .24
172 2011-08-21 15:15:41 <md2k7> I'm trying to build current bitcoin from git with GCC 4.6.1 (ArchLinux) against "wxgtk"
173 2011-08-21 15:15:58 <md2k7> I get a lot of conversion errors from wxString or wxChar * to std::string or char *
174 2011-08-21 15:16:01 <md2k7> or vice versa
175 2011-08-21 15:16:02 <md2k7> like:
176 2011-08-21 15:16:04 <md2k7> util.cpp:870:41: error: conversion from 'const wxChar* {aka const wchar_t*}' to non-scalar type 'std::string {aka std::basic_string<char>}' requested
177 2011-08-21 15:16:08 <md2k7> any hints?
178 2011-08-21 15:17:03 <mtrlt> wchar_t is a wide char
179 2011-08-21 15:17:19 <mtrlt> and std::string only takes ordinary ones. dunno how to fix.
180 2011-08-21 15:17:34 <md2k7> I'm not the one who wrote the code though :-(
181 2011-08-21 15:17:44 <md2k7> ah, it might be my system being x64
182 2011-08-21 15:17:50 <mtrlt> nope
183 2011-08-21 15:17:56 <BlueMatt> you need to be using wx 2.9
184 2011-08-21 15:18:07 <mtrlt> ah >_>
185 2011-08-21 15:18:17 <md2k7> BlueMatt: thx very much
186 2011-08-21 15:20:18 <asher^> when you fire up bitcoind for the first time, it is usual that you cant getinfo while it starts up?
187 2011-08-21 15:20:25 <asher^> im getting error: cannot connect to server
188 2011-08-21 15:21:03 <md2k7> asher^: sounds familiar, may take a while
189 2011-08-21 15:21:14 <asher^> oh wow
190 2011-08-21 15:21:17 <asher^> its done o_O
191 2011-08-21 15:21:33 <asher^> how the...
192 2011-08-21 15:21:41 <asher^> last time it took something like an hour
193 2011-08-21 15:28:22 <phantomcircuit> md2k7, use gentoo
194 2011-08-21 15:28:23 <phantomcircuit> ;)
195 2011-08-21 16:59:05 <md2k7> next in line:
196 2011-08-21 16:59:07 <md2k7> ui.cpp:1811:39: error: 'class boost::filesystem3::path' has no member named 'native_file_string'
197 2011-08-21 16:59:17 <md2k7> got boost 1.47
198 2011-08-21 16:59:30 <md2k7> is that too old or too new?
199 2011-08-21 17:00:07 <md2k7> boost.org says it's the current version
200 2011-08-21 17:00:58 <makomk> md2k7: change native_file_string to string in ui.cpp
201 2011-08-21 17:03:37 <tcatm> does anyone know who runs mullvad.net?
202 2011-08-21 17:03:48 <md2k7> makomk: thx
203 2011-08-21 17:05:00 <jjjrmy> I need help with App Inventor :(
204 2011-08-21 17:10:09 <b4epoche> App Inventor?
205 2011-08-21 17:11:18 <BlueMatt> arent they killing that?
206 2011-08-21 17:11:26 <b4epoche> that was my next question
207 2011-08-21 17:11:50 <b4epoche> I thought so too but wasn't sure if it was App Inventor or some other stupid Google tool
208 2011-08-21 17:12:43 <BlueMatt> appinventor was awesome, just not particularly useful
209 2011-08-21 17:13:04 <b4epoche> awesome at making twitter clients
210 2011-08-21 17:13:17 <BlueMatt> heh yea, simple stuff it can do well
211 2011-08-21 17:13:20 <BlueMatt> well, really simple stuff
212 2011-08-21 17:13:37 <b4epoche> rss feed reader, etc ;-)
213 2011-08-21 17:13:41 <Eliel> BlueMatt: I understood they're open sourcing it but stopping their own development of it
214 2011-08-21 17:14:07 <BlueMatt> I heard something about some mit lab or apache or someone picking it up, but its really only used in education anyway
215 2011-08-21 17:14:17 <b4epoche> BlueMatt:  same here
216 2011-08-21 17:14:55 <b4epoche> yea, some mit thing is apparently taking it over
217 2011-08-21 17:14:56 <Eliel> so, I expect if educators still want to use it, they'll just need to support it themselves.
218 2011-08-21 17:15:18 <b4epoche> why educators would want to use it, I have no idea
219 2011-08-21 17:15:38 <BlueMatt> well its more of a get people exited about programming/making stuff than actually learning much
220 2011-08-21 17:15:44 <BlueMatt> but that is arguably just as important
221 2011-08-21 17:16:17 <b4epoche> getting people excited about nothing sounds like MIT to me
222 2011-08-21 17:16:28 <BlueMatt> heh
223 2011-08-21 17:16:49 <b4epoche> BlueMatt:  you start classes yet?
224 2011-08-21 17:16:54 <BlueMatt> tuesday
225 2011-08-21 17:17:01 <b4epoche> we start tomorrow
226 2011-08-21 17:17:13 <BlueMatt> ah, nice
227 2011-08-21 17:17:46 <b4epoche> you living in a dorm?
228 2011-08-21 17:17:54 <BlueMatt> yea, all freshman have to
229 2011-08-21 17:18:03 <BlueMatt> Im just chilling there now...been a crazy couple nights
230 2011-08-21 17:18:13 <b4epoche> roommates not to geeky?
231 2011-08-21 17:18:27 <BlueMatt> no, none of them are
232 2011-08-21 17:18:36 <b4epoche> so you're the geeky one?
233 2011-08-21 17:18:39 <BlueMatt> yep
234 2011-08-21 17:18:56 <b4epoche> it's a good role to have
235 2011-08-21 17:19:01 <BlueMatt> heh its not too bad
236 2011-08-21 17:19:15 <b4epoche> how are internet connections in the dorm?
237 2011-08-21 17:19:36 <BlueMatt> pretty good, I havent speedtested yet, but its pretty speedy
238 2011-08-21 17:19:58 <BlueMatt> there are a couple dedicated lines to level3 iirc so...
239 2011-08-21 17:21:24 <b4epoche> you in a classic old dorm and a fancy new one?
240 2011-08-21 17:21:47 <BlueMatt> its really old, but its been renovated so its not too bad...plus by college standards the rooms are pretty big so...
241 2011-08-21 17:22:42 <b4epoche> AC?
242 2011-08-21 17:22:45 <jjjrmy> need help with App Inventor :(
243 2011-08-21 17:22:52 <BlueMatt> built in ac :)
244 2011-08-21 17:23:06 <b4epoche> you kids nowadays are so spoiled
245 2011-08-21 17:23:13 <BlueMatt> hehe yep
246 2011-08-21 17:32:04 <BlueMatt> ;;seen devrandom
247 2011-08-21 17:32:05 <BlueMatt> ;;seen devrandom_
248 2011-08-21 17:32:05 <gribble> devrandom was last seen in #bitcoin-dev 1 week, 0 days, 13 hours, 41 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <devrandom> ;;later tell BlueMatt my latest commit does deterministic mingw executables, but there are still ~10 bytes changing on the nsis exe
249 2011-08-21 17:32:06 <gribble> devrandom_ was last seen in #bitcoin-dev 12 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, 2 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <devrandom_> BlueMatt - ok
250 2011-08-21 20:10:10 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * rdfec430cb846 cgminer/util.c: Make the tcp setsockopts unique to linux in the hope it allows freebsd et. al to compile.
251 2011-08-21 20:37:54 <jjjrmy> Need help with Google App Inventor :(
252 2011-08-21 20:40:01 <phantomcircuit> i thought that was discontinued
253 2011-08-21 20:42:08 <jjjrmy> no it wasn't yet
254 2011-08-21 20:42:10 <jjjrmy> I need help :(
255 2011-08-21 20:45:26 <lfm> jjjrmy: well this is a bitcoin channel, you should try a google channel I think
256 2011-08-21 20:52:48 <jjjrmy> lfm: :(
257 2011-08-21 22:02:10 <nanotube> bernie: heh i wasn't on... but i hope you found that it was at onlyonetv hehe
258 2011-08-21 22:25:14 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * r6d10ef2f6ec2 cgminer/ (6 files): Bump version numbers of kernels to indicate slightly different versions.
259 2011-08-21 22:55:09 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * rf465397fa678 cgminer/NEWS: Update news for 1.5.7.
260 2011-08-21 22:55:10 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Con Kolivas * rcc9d5f592790 cgminer/configure.ac: Bump version number to 1.5.7.