1 2011-10-13 00:01:21 <cjdelisl1> heh
  2 2011-10-13 00:01:29 <imsaguy> stupid /msg
  3 2011-10-13 00:03:15 <cjdelisl1> I'd just tag them with [ I'd rather be spending bitcoin ]
  4 2011-10-13 00:10:24 <Graet> mm i think i will
  5 2011-10-13 00:22:05 <devrandom> luke-jr: peek
  6 2011-10-13 00:51:06 <luke-jr> devrandom: Windows binaries? :P
  7 2011-10-13 01:16:28 <groffer> luke-jr: I think BlueMatt is working on that
  8 2011-10-13 01:17:59 <luke-jr> I just need bitcoind :/
  9 2011-10-13 01:23:49 <SomeoneWeird> can't you compile it luke-jr ?
 10 2011-10-13 01:24:06 <luke-jr> SomeoneWeird: no, I don't even USE windows
 11 2011-10-13 01:24:11 <SomeoneWeird> rightyo
 12 2011-10-13 01:25:49 <devrandom> luke-jr groffer: yeah, I think he's still dealing with a possible compiler code generation issue
 13 2011-10-13 01:26:28 <luke-jr> devrandom: in bitcoind or bitcoin-qt? :p
 14 2011-10-13 01:27:30 <devrandom> luke-jr: good point, maybe the issue doesn't manifest in bitcoind
 15 2011-10-13 01:28:45 <devrandom> luke-jr: you can try compiling it. install mingw and make -f makefile.mingw bitcoind.exe
 16 2011-10-13 01:29:31 <groffer> winblows.... sigh
 17 2011-10-13 01:31:44 <luke-jr> devrandom: I have mingw. I don't have boost/bdb for mingw
 18 2011-10-13 01:32:54 <devrandom> luke-jr: the gitian script has steps for compiling each
 19 2011-10-13 01:33:38 <luke-jr> devrandom: Gitian requires Ruby crap
 20 2011-10-13 01:33:39 <devrandom> (just shell commands)
 21 2011-10-13 01:34:14 <devrandom> you can ignore the gitian boilerplate, just do the shell steps to build each item
 22 2011-10-13 01:34:45 <luke-jr> O.o
 23 2011-10-13 01:34:53 <devrandom> (i.e. copy-paste them from the gitian mingw file)
 24 2011-10-13 01:41:48 <luke-jr> why on earth are you guys doing i586?
 25 2011-10-13 01:42:48 <luke-jr> and calling mingw msvcG? O.o
 26 2011-10-13 01:45:22 <devrandom> I didn't do the mingw stuff
 27 2011-10-13 02:05:34 <jrmithdobbs> gitian is awful and requires ancient versions of everything
 28 2011-10-13 02:11:14 <devrandom> jrmithdobbs: what seems to be the problem?
 29 2011-10-13 02:14:57 <jrmithdobbs> wait sorry i was thinking of gitorious my bad
 30 2011-10-13 02:15:26 <luke-jr> fail
 31 2011-10-13 02:16:53 <devrandom> maybe I should have chosen a different name
 32 2011-10-13 02:24:59 <luke-jr> devrandom: bdb doesn't build
 33 2011-10-13 02:32:10 <devrandom> luke-jr: symptom?
 34 2011-10-13 02:32:50 <luke-jr> devrandom: it doesn't like mingw :P
 35 2011-10-13 02:32:53 <jrmithdobbs> devrandom: can gitian run on anything but ubuntu?
 36 2011-10-13 02:33:16 <devrandom> it needs apt-cacher-ng
 37 2011-10-13 02:33:23 <jrmithdobbs> why
 38 2011-10-13 02:34:09 <devrandom> it creates an ubuntu guest vm
 39 2011-10-13 02:35:04 <devrandom> that's the only guest os I have support for
 40 2011-10-13 02:35:44 <jrmithdobbs> so? shouldn't it just need qemu and then do the guest install with debian-installer?
 41 2011-10-13 02:36:25 <jrmithdobbs> then you just need an http proxy
 42 2011-10-13 02:36:35 <devrandom> it runs debian bootstrap before creating the vm
 43 2011-10-13 02:36:56 <jrmithdobbs> right, there's other ways to do that
 44 2011-10-13 02:38:13 <devrandom> it could be be improved
 45 2011-10-13 02:38:18 <jrmithdobbs> fai and a local http proxy accomplishes the same thing
 46 2011-10-13 02:38:40 <devrandom> maybe chroot and do away with need for vm
 47 2011-10-13 02:39:07 <jrmithdobbs> no then it's even harder to build on not-ubuntu
 48 2011-10-13 02:39:46 <jrmithdobbs> eg, os x
 49 2011-10-13 02:41:04 <devrandom> yeah, both ways would be useful.
 50 2011-10-13 02:41:27 <devrandom> will have both
 51 2011-10-13 02:42:38 <devrandom> debian installer has a batch mode.  that should work too.
 52 2011-10-13 02:43:18 <devrandom> I wish i had more time
 53 2011-10-13 03:28:05 <lianj> hehe, CVE-2011-3230 - osx wallets for everyone
 54 2011-10-13 03:32:29 <freewil> lianj, nice
 55 2011-10-13 03:42:53 <signmes> can someone help me get signmessage to work?
 56 2011-10-13 04:28:18 <enquirer> where an i get bitcoind.exe version 0.5
 57 2011-10-13 04:29:16 <dub> sounds like you have to build it yourself
 58 2011-10-13 04:39:29 <enquirer> (
 59 2011-10-13 05:15:57 <conman> o/
 60 2011-10-13 06:23:03 <neofutur> when i try to use bitcoind signmessage , i get :
 61 2011-10-13 06:23:06 <neofutur> error: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key not available"}
 62 2011-10-13 06:23:08 <neofutur> anything i should do to generate a private key ?
 63 2011-10-13 06:23:18 <neofutur> i find nothing related in bitcoind help and bitcoind help signmessage
 64 2011-10-13 06:23:18 <wumpus> maybe your wallet is locked?
 65 2011-10-13 06:23:19 <neofutur> its an old wallet , existed before the signmessage appeared
 66 2011-10-13 06:23:19 <wumpus> it's the only reason I can think of for private keys not being available...
 67 2011-10-13 06:23:23 <neofutur> but its not locked
 68 2011-10-13 06:23:53 <sipa> you did use one of your own addresses, right?
 69 2011-10-13 06:24:19 <wumpus> hehe
 70 2011-10-13 06:24:32 <neofutur> yes
 71 2011-10-13 06:24:37 <neofutur> bitcoind listreceivedbyaddress
 72 2011-10-13 06:24:38 <neofutur> gives my my list of transactions
 73 2011-10-13 06:24:39 <sipa> ok
 74 2011-10-13 06:27:38 <neofutur> private keys should have been generated automatically ?
 75 2011-10-13 06:27:57 <neofutur> nothing related to this new option bitcoind keypoolrefill ?
 76 2011-10-13 06:30:52 <neofutur> a strace gives me :
 77 2011-10-13 06:32:02 <neofutur> recvmsg(6, {msg_name(0)=NULL, msg_iov(1)=[{"HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Erro"..., 4096}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 266
 78 2011-10-13 06:32:17 <neofutur> when i do the signmessage stuff
 79 2011-10-13 06:32:53 <sipa> that is just rpc you see
 80 2011-10-13 06:33:01 <sipa> your wallet has private keys for all your own keys
 81 2011-10-13 06:33:05 <neofutur> 500 Internal Server Error
 82 2011-10-13 06:33:08 <neofutur> when other commands are working
 83 2011-10-13 06:33:10 <sipa> eh?
 84 2011-10-13 06:33:17 <neofutur> i receive msg_iov(1)=[{"HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Erro"
 85 2011-10-13 06:36:52 <neofutur> hum blockchain is still updating, i ll wait a little and try again
 86 2011-10-13 06:37:17 <sipa> that shouldn't matter, actually
 87 2011-10-13 06:41:49 <neofutur> http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2011/06/30/18
 88 2011-10-13 06:41:53 <neofutur> only reference for this error message i can find on google
 89 2011-10-13 06:41:56 <conman> * [Tycho] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
 90 2011-10-13 06:42:07 <conman> even his irc connection is DDoSed
 91 2011-10-13 06:42:10 <conman> poor bastard
 92 2011-10-13 07:17:49 <neofutur> grumph on centos you need to rebuild the ssl package to add ecdsa support
 93 2011-10-13 07:18:36 <neofutur> sipa: if I saved my wallet.dat only months ago, i lost my private keys for my adresses ?
 94 2011-10-13 07:18:43 <diki> R.I.P dennis ritchie
 95 2011-10-13 07:18:47 <neofutur> they arent regenerated ?
 96 2011-10-13 07:22:27 <gmaxwell> neofutur: your wallet generates 100 keys ahead of your current usage invisibly.. but if you've used more than 100 since your backup (via getnewaddress or for change in spends) then you'll lose money if you lose your wallet.
 97 2011-10-13 07:23:30 <dub> is there any way to avoid downloading the blockchain again for 0.5?
 98 2011-10-13 07:24:39 <gmaxwell> dub: just don't erase your blockchain.
 99 2011-10-13 07:26:03 <snimpy> ;;bc,slushpool
100 2011-10-13 07:26:14 <gribble> Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
101 2011-10-13 07:26:19 <dub> gmaxwell: I got this http://pastebin.com/msVLNYr0
102 2011-10-13 07:26:28 <neofutur> gmaxwell: less than 100 adresse, but they were generated logn ago, like one year
103 2011-10-13 07:26:41 <snimpy> ;; bc,deepbit
104 2011-10-13 07:26:44 <gribble> 3058062000
105 2011-10-13 07:26:47 <snimpy> ;;bc,slushpool
106 2011-10-13 07:26:53 <gribble> Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
107 2011-10-13 07:26:59 <neofutur> and when i try to use bitcoind signmessage , i get : error: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key not available"}
108 2011-10-13 07:27:02 <gmaxwell> neofutur: It's not clear to me what you're saying.
109 2011-10-13 07:27:06 <snimpy> slushs pool dds?
110 2011-10-13 07:27:22 <neofutur> it seems i dont have the Private key for my old adress
111 2011-10-13 07:27:32 <gmaxwell> neofutur: is your wallet locked?
112 2011-10-13 07:27:41 <neofutur> how can I check this ?
113 2011-10-13 07:28:15 <neofutur> yes there is a .lock file in my .bitcoin folder
114 2011-10-13 07:28:44 <gmaxwell> neofutur: Thats unrelated. Are you using wallet encryption?
115 2011-10-13 07:29:14 <gmaxwell> If so, use walletpassphrase to unlock your wallet before using signmessage.
116 2011-10-13 07:29:34 <neofutur> nop, never used this
117 2011-10-13 07:30:32 <neofutur> all the bitcoind commands work well, only bitcoind signmessage have a problem, not finding the private key
118 2011-10-13 07:30:45 <neofutur> are the private keys stored in the wallet.dat or somewhere else ?
119 2011-10-13 07:30:59 <gmaxwell> In your wallet.dat.
120 2011-10-13 07:33:56 <neofutur> ok, so i ll delete anything in .bitcoin and just keep wallet.dat with a new install
121 2011-10-13 07:48:49 <UukGoblin> db.cpp:952: warning: not protecting function: no buffer at least 8 bytes long
122 2011-10-13 07:49:23 <UukGoblin> util.h:227: warning: not protecting function: no buffer at least 8 bytes long
123 2011-10-13 07:50:17 <UukGoblin> when building git latest
124 2011-10-13 07:51:02 <UukGoblin> same at bitcoinrpc.cpp:2528
125 2011-10-13 08:24:01 <neofutur> UukGoblin: i had the same warning, also git latest
126 2011-10-13 08:24:14 <neofutur> where can I get the 0.5rc tarball ?
127 2011-10-13 08:24:24 <neofutur> my private key problem could be related to using the latest git
128 2011-10-13 08:25:49 <UukGoblin> private key problem?
129 2011-10-13 08:26:42 <UukGoblin> hm
130 2011-10-13 08:26:48 <UukGoblin> I just signmessage'd with git latest and it worked fine
131 2011-10-13 08:26:52 <gmaxwell> UukGoblin: those warnings are completely uninteresting and harmless.
132 2011-10-13 08:27:00 <gmaxwell> It's just saying that the stack protection hardening had nothing to do for those functions.
133 2011-10-13 08:27:48 <UukGoblin> gmaxwell, ah, good
134 2011-10-13 08:28:19 <gmaxwell> I suppose it might be reasonable to set the minimum to 1 for bitcoin, I doubt it would really make a performance difference.
135 2011-10-13 08:29:11 <UukGoblin> hm, where does verifymessage get the public key from? a bitcoin address is only a hash of it, right?
136 2011-10-13 08:29:37 <neofutur> UukGoblin: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key not available"}
137 2011-10-13 08:29:47 <gmaxwell> UukGoblin: from the signature.
138 2011-10-13 08:30:07 <neofutur> and its my address, everything works but bitcoind signmessage
139 2011-10-13 08:30:56 <neofutur> strace shows it receive :
140 2011-10-13 08:30:58 <UukGoblin> gmaxwell, ah, so signature actually contains the pubkey + signature?
141 2011-10-13 08:30:59 <neofutur> sendmsg(6, {msg_name(0)=NULL, msg_iov(1)=[{"POST / HTTP/1.1
142 2011-10-13 08:31:06 <neofutur> recvmsg(6, {msg_name(0)=NULL, msg_iov(1)=[{"HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Erro"..., 4096}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 266
143 2011-10-13 08:32:10 <gmaxwell> UukGoblin: Nope. :) The signature contains the signature. ECDSA public keys can be recovered from the signature itself.
144 2011-10-13 08:32:23 <UukGoblin> neofutur, does verifyaddress on that address show it's yours?
145 2011-10-13 08:32:24 <neofutur> I ll check
146 2011-10-13 08:32:36 <neofutur> you mean validateaddress ?
147 2011-10-13 08:32:53 <neofutur> "isvalid" : true,
148 2011-10-13 08:32:57 <neofutur> "ismine" : false,
149 2011-10-13 08:33:43 <gmaxwell> well, indeed, sounds like the wallet you're using doesn't have that address in it.
150 2011-10-13 08:34:39 <neofutur> hum, i could have used the bad wallet
151 2011-10-13 08:42:33 <sipa> neofutur: that would explain :)
152 2011-10-13 10:43:45 <talpan> hello, i want to see if i got a incoming transactions for a specific address. get or listreceivedby doesn't do it. i want the full transaction with txid. Am I missing something or is there currently now rpc-command for that?
153 2011-10-13 10:52:46 <slush1> [Tycho]: you here?
154 2011-10-13 10:54:29 <conman> probably still busy putting out fires
155 2011-10-13 10:54:38 <sipa> how so?
156 2011-10-13 10:55:21 <conman> longest outage for deepbit in a while... must be something decent sized to take it out for that long
157 2011-10-13 10:55:42 <sipa> wow: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-10k.png
158 2011-10-13 10:56:01 <sipa> noticable indeed
159 2011-10-13 10:56:16 <luke-jr> lol
160 2011-10-13 10:56:38 <luke-jr> they aren't moving to another pool?
161 2011-10-13 10:56:59 <conman> blocks are coming at half the speed
162 2011-10-13 10:57:04 <slush1> actually attack is going bigger when they see we're starting to fight it
163 2011-10-13 10:57:09 <luke-jr> sipa: do you have *any* Windows build with signmessage btw?
164 2011-10-13 10:57:52 <gmaxwell> luke-jr: Of course not.
165 2011-10-13 11:00:41 <imsaguy2> Its the 2 step, ddos the biggest pools so they can't be productive and at the same time, ramp up your botnet production to see if you can overtake what's left (test the 51%)
166 2011-10-13 11:07:19 <epscy> ;;bc,diffchange
167 2011-10-13 11:07:48 <gribble> Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | -12.7836546322 % based on data since last change | -29.0569879185 % based on data for last three days
168 2011-10-13 11:08:19 <slush1> I still don't understand why attacker didn't shot down btcguild
169 2011-10-13 11:08:27 <epscy> 29% yikes
170 2011-10-13 11:08:34 <Graet> yer
171 2011-10-13 11:08:48 <talpan> hello, i want to see if i got a incoming transactions for a specific address. get or listreceivedby doesn't do it. i want the full transaction with txid. Am I missing something or is there currently no rpc-command for that?
172 2011-10-13 12:28:51 <AlexWaters> gavinandresen: nice!
173 2011-10-13 12:29:08 <gavinandresen> what'd I do now?
174 2011-10-13 12:29:30 <AlexWaters> gavinandresen: the state of Bitcoin memo, much appreciated
175 2011-10-13 12:30:01 <gavinandresen> good, thanks for the feedback!
176 2011-10-13 12:30:08 <AlexWaters> and the weekend ETA on binaries is relieving
177 2011-10-13 12:30:11 <talpan> source?
178 2011-10-13 12:30:41 <gavinandresen> talpan: bitcoin-dev mailing list
179 2011-10-13 12:30:55 <gavinandresen> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development
180 2011-10-13 12:31:06 <talpan> ty
181 2011-10-13 12:31:40 <AlexWaters> gavinandresen: the item about the cross-platform testing infastructure - does that integrate Jenkins?
182 2011-10-13 12:32:18 <gavinandresen> does it?  no, it is quite a ways from being implemented.  could it?  I suppose it could....
183 2011-10-13 12:32:55 <AlexWaters> and, any chance your twisted work is available to the public?
184 2011-10-13 12:33:31 <gavinandresen> sure:  https://github.com/gavinandresen/Bitcoin-protocol-test-harness
185 2011-10-13 12:33:39 <AlexWaters> awesome, thanks!
186 2011-10-13 12:33:49 <shadders> gavinandresen: said it on the list but I feel strongly enough about it say it again here... you should invite ArtForz onto the security list..
187 2011-10-13 12:34:25 <gavinandresen> I'll see what the other developer think. I'm hesitant to invite somebody anonymous to discuss possible security breaches
188 2011-10-13 12:34:56 <shadders> I've talked to him an awful lot lately... the man is human cpu.  I'd be surprised if he can't calculate sha256 in his head
189 2011-10-13 12:34:58 <gavinandresen> (I'd make an exception for Satoshi)
190 2011-10-13 12:34:59 <AlexWaters> IMO the artist formerly known as ArtForz should be invited
191 2011-10-13 12:36:42 <talpan> ArtFortz can do 1THashes @1 bar of chocolate ))
192 2011-10-13 12:37:22 <luke-jr> gavinandresen: any news in bitcoind binaries? you only mentioned Bitcoin-Qt bins
193 2011-10-13 12:38:24 <gavinandresen> no news
194 2011-10-13 12:38:56 <luke-jr> apparently Gentoo's mingw is broken -.-
195 2011-10-13 12:39:41 <cosurgi> guys, how can I check history of all difficulties?
196 2011-10-13 12:39:49 <sipa> luke-jr: i don't have windows build
197 2011-10-13 12:39:51 <sipa> s
198 2011-10-13 12:39:56 <cosurgi> it used to be in http://nullvoid.org/bitcoin/difficultiez.php
199 2011-10-13 12:40:03 <cosurgi> but now it's empty
200 2011-10-13 12:40:12 <urstroyer> @cosurgi: http://btcserv.net/bitcoin/history/
201 2011-10-13 12:41:03 <cosurgi> thanks
202 2011-10-13 13:35:27 <pak> hi
203 2011-10-13 14:14:42 <cosurgi> luke-jr: on average to mine a block a pool needs <difficulty> number of shares, right?
204 2011-10-13 14:15:48 <luke-jr> cosurgi: on average, yes.
205 2011-10-13 14:15:56 <luke-jr> well, depending on what you mean
206 2011-10-13 14:16:20 <luke-jr> 63% chance you find it in under <difficulty> shares
207 2011-10-13 14:16:31 <luke-jr> but there's also a chance you'll never find it ;)
208 2011-10-13 14:16:41 <luke-jr> overall, the average shares per block is <difficulty>
209 2011-10-13 14:17:30 <cosurgi> ok
210 2011-10-13 14:18:04 <sipa> depends on the difficulty of the shares :)
211 2011-10-13 14:18:31 <sipa> you need N shares of difficulty M to solve an (M*N)-difficulty block
212 2011-10-13 14:18:39 <cosurgi> luke-jr: so if I look at pool stats, take number of shares for a finished round, and divide it by difficulty for that block, I would bet 1.0 on average?
213 2011-10-13 14:19:06 <cosurgi> s/bet/get/
214 2011-10-13 14:19:08 <sipa> yes
215 2011-10-13 14:19:25 <cosurgi> and if I plot a histogram of obtained number, I should get a gaussian bell curve?
216 2011-10-13 14:19:31 <sipa> no
217 2011-10-13 14:19:35 <cosurgi> wiith peak at 1?
218 2011-10-13 14:19:40 <cosurgi> why no?
219 2011-10-13 14:19:50 <sipa> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_distribution
220 2011-10-13 14:19:54 <sipa> that's what you should get
221 2011-10-13 14:20:32 <sipa> the first share has the highest chance of being a good one
222 2011-10-13 14:20:45 <sipa> the second one can only win if the first one didn't
223 2011-10-13 14:20:46 <sipa> and so on
224 2011-10-13 14:20:47 <cosurgi> ok
225 2011-10-13 14:22:51 <UukGoblin> luke-jr, hm? lower diff than what?
226 2011-10-13 14:23:11 <luke-jr> lower shares/block than difficulty
227 2011-10-13 14:23:19 <luke-jr> that's what having a positive buffer implies :p
228 2011-10-13 14:24:01 <UukGoblin> I don't understand :-(
229 2011-10-13 14:24:18 <UukGoblin> I mean I see that if you have a positive buffer of money that means the pool is "lucky"
230 2011-10-13 14:24:47 <UukGoblin> nvmd
231 2011-10-13 14:26:43 <luke-jr> :p
232 2011-10-13 14:57:29 <cosurgi> or that their servers have 4% downtime and miss 4% of solving shares.
233 2011-10-13 14:58:36 <cosurgi> in comparison on other pool, I used slush pool for that - I get 1.005, which is much less.
234 2011-10-13 14:58:55 <cosurgi> luke-jr: what was your average? You said it was below 1.0 ?
235 2011-10-13 14:58:58 <cosurgi> 18:22  * luke-jr notes that in practice, Eligius has almost always been lower than diff on average
236 2011-10-13 15:00:41 <luke-jr> cosurgi: feel free to calculate it exactly for me
237 2011-10-13 15:01:07 <cosurgi> good point :) where's your history?
238 2011-10-13 15:02:17 <cosurgi> luke-jr: I need number_of_shares & difficulty for each your block
239 2011-10-13 15:02:26 <molecular> does "getnewaddress" always generate a new address or deliver one from the pool?
240 2011-10-13 15:02:56 <cosurgi> luke-jr: I can't find it on http://eligius.st/~artefact2/
241 2011-10-13 15:05:10 <cosurgi> ah, this http://eligius.st/~artefact2/blocks/
242 2011-10-13 15:05:50 <cosurgi> luke-jr: that's all your blocks?
243 2011-10-13 15:06:55 <luke-jr> cosurgi: yes
244 2011-10-13 15:07:12 <luke-jr> molecular: it always delivers one from the pool
245 2011-10-13 15:13:49 <cosurgi> luke-jr: I need difficulty for each block
246 2011-10-13 15:14:11 <cosurgi> luke-jr: for btcguild I used block number to find it.
247 2011-10-13 15:14:17 <cosurgi> luke-jr: you don't have number, you have hash
248 2011-10-13 15:14:39 <luke-jr> cosurgi: I bet block explorer can tell you :P
249 2011-10-13 15:15:11 <cosurgi> luke-jr: man... that's lot of searching. don't you have this data somewhere?
250 2011-10-13 15:15:17 <cosurgi> luke-jr: I need to know when difficulty changes
251 2011-10-13 15:15:18 <luke-jr> not really, no
252 2011-10-13 15:19:41 <cosurgi> luke-jr: maybe you could tell me a block number for each round?
253 2011-10-13 15:20:55 <luke-jr> cosurgi: hash is all I got
254 2011-10-13 15:21:11 <cosurgi> luke-jr: and href isn't working
255 2011-10-13 15:21:26 <cosurgi> luke-jr: maybe you could at least edit that www and make href point to blockexplorer?
256 2011-10-13 15:23:20 <luke-jr> wfm
257 2011-10-13 15:23:47 <luke-jr> maybe not
258 2011-10-13 15:24:04 <cosurgi> it doeant work ::)
259 2011-10-13 15:24:09 <cosurgi> doesnt
260 2011-10-13 15:27:30 <[Tycho]> cosurgi, hash is much better than block number
261 2011-10-13 15:27:57 <cosurgi> [Tycho]: but I need difficulty for that block. To difide: shares/diff
262 2011-10-13 15:28:04 <cosurgi> *divide
263 2011-10-13 15:28:30 <[Tycho]> I noticed that some pools are publishing wrong block numbers sometimes.
264 2011-10-13 15:30:02 <cosurgi> eh, I need to write bash script to download all luke's blocks from blockexplorer, then parse it
265 2011-10-13 15:58:17 <gjs278> ;;bc,stats
266 2011-10-13 15:58:21 <gribble> Current Blocks: 149144 | Current Difficulty: 1689334.4045971 | Next Difficulty At Block: 149183 | Next Difficulty In: 39 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 7 hours, 44 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1468454.26342550 | Estimated Percent Change: -13.0749803337
267 2011-10-13 16:00:11 <cosurgi> luke-jr: ok, I just calculated for you, it is 0.965 !
268 2011-10-13 16:00:20 <cosurgi> luke-jr: you are lucky by 3.5% !
269 2011-10-13 16:00:47 <cosurgi> luke-jr: but with only 770 blocks you can have bigger variatioon, because your statistics are less precise.
270 2011-10-13 16:00:56 <cosurgi> luke-jr: it's in fact too short history
271 2011-10-13 16:01:16 <cosurgi> [Tycho]: can I have your statistics? :)
272 2011-10-13 16:02:02 <cosurgi> I will upload this openoffice spreadsheet somewhere, so you can verify that
273 2011-10-13 16:04:08 <cosurgi> btcguild has 3500 blocks (1.04) ; slush has 8000 blocks (1.005) ; luke-jr has 776 blocks (0.965)
274 2011-10-13 16:34:50 <cosurgi> [Tycho]: did it take 000000000000ed503a58325e8220855205ece3adf8036973f2e1705742104943          70433
275 2011-10-13 16:35:05 <cosurgi> [Tycho]: I mean, did it take 70433 shares for 000000000000ed503a58325e8220855205ece3adf8036973f2e1705742104943 ?
276 2011-10-13 16:35:21 <cosurgi> and 00000000000068262a127bfcd6d4886d661d2ff9c855be9e44f0764cff00b75e          21992
277 2011-10-13 16:35:24 <cosurgi> ?
278 2011-10-13 16:35:34 <cosurgi> I'm just checking my data
279 2011-10-13 16:35:48 <cosurgi> and for example 0000000000000696f7cd07c492f1824579168ca36417b4ba572345eb8b6da16e          2363372
280 2011-10-13 16:38:21 <cosurgi> ehh.. downlloadiing 120000 blocks from blockexplorer takes a lot of time
281 2011-10-13 16:38:43 <cosurgi> I mean 11413
282 2011-10-13 16:39:04 <cosurgi> :) not 120000 but 12000
283 2011-10-13 16:42:42 <cosurgi> [Tycho]: I have your data, because I was downloading it with crontab since start of your pool. I just wanted to verify that I make no mistake in parsing that html now.
284 2011-10-13 16:44:36 <cosurgi> but I was hoping that I will not need to parse it, and get data from you :)
285 2011-10-13 16:51:56 <cosurgi> ;;bc,stats
286 2011-10-13 16:52:00 <gribble> Current Blocks: 149153 | Current Difficulty: 1689334.4045971 | Next Difficulty At Block: 149183 | Next Difficulty In: 30 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 hours, 57 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1471675.76476635 | Estimated Percent Change: -12.884283848
287 2011-10-13 17:21:24 <crazy_imp> nameless|:
288 2011-10-13 17:21:29 <crazy_imp> arg, sorry
289 2011-10-13 19:51:16 <luke-jr> cosurgi: law of large numbers
290 2011-10-13 20:06:37 <machine2> remember when i called the absolute top on bitcoin at 32? http://www.street-finance.com/story/bitcoin-the-bit-con-avoid-the-bubble-stay-high-and-dry
291 2011-10-13 20:18:34 <Eliel> machine2: you're way too early with that claim.
292 2011-10-13 20:18:40 <Eliel> even now still.
293 2011-10-13 20:33:09 <luke-jr_> what problem was BlueMatt having with builds anyhow?
294 2011-10-13 20:36:25 <neofutur> (22:31) <@ BlueMatt> ;;later tell gavinandresen well, nfc whats gonna happen with xcompiling bitcoin-qt at this point...no problem getting qt to xcompile and getting bitcoin-qt to xcompile, but there are some really bizarre compiler/linker/header-redefining-true bugs blocking at this point...these kinds of things being well over my head Im stuck, may have to do aws builds for 0.5
295 2011-10-13 20:36:47 <luke-jr_> specifically? :P
296 2011-10-13 20:36:55 <luke-jr_> looks like it's working fine to me
297 2011-10-13 20:37:21 <neofutur> (18:46) <@ BlueMatt> any experts on g++ around who can explain why bitcoin git head compiled does this: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/bitcoin-nightly/bitcoin-qt-O2.exe
298 2011-10-13 20:37:33 <luke-jr_> does what?
299 2011-10-13 20:38:27 <luke-jr_> lol his doesn't even start?
300 2011-10-13 20:38:40 <neofutur> I can give you . txt with full logs if needed
301 2011-10-13 20:39:41 <neofutur> and offer you a ssh/screen/irssi :p
302 2011-10-13 20:41:11 <luke-jr_> whatever
303 2011-10-13 20:41:12 <luke-jr_> works for me
304 2011-10-13 20:41:14 <luke-jr_> I'm publishin git
305 2011-10-13 21:09:56 <gjs278> ;;bc,stats
306 2011-10-13 21:10:00 <gribble> Current Blocks: 149168 | Current Difficulty: 1689334.4045971 | Next Difficulty At Block: 149183 | Next Difficulty In: 15 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 hours and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1466372.43575004 | Estimated Percent Change: -13.198213938
307 2011-10-13 22:10:38 <avengre> Is there a binary floating around for Windows Bitcoin 0.5?
308 2011-10-13 22:32:08 <luke-jr_> avengre: I just posted some
309 2011-10-13 23:04:41 <avengre> luke-jr_: now considering i'm still kinda noob.. how can i use that with the same wallet as bitcoin 0.4? or at least the same addresses
310 2011-10-13 23:06:08 <luke-jr_> avengre: just run it
311 2011-10-13 23:07:33 <avengre> wow bit UI changes to say the least
312 2011-10-13 23:07:57 <luke-jr_> UI is completely rewritten
313 2011-10-13 23:15:40 <avengre> i like it, takes a lil to get used to (I liked having a current address on the front page
314 2011-10-13 23:55:22 <luke-jr> FYI, just had a report of Bitcoin-Qt 0.5.0rc1 corrupting a user's wallet
315 2011-10-13 23:58:29 <luke-jr> ;;bc,stats
316 2011-10-13 23:58:33 <gribble> Current Blocks: 149185 | Current Difficulty: 1468195.4272208 | Next Difficulty At Block: 151199 | Next Difficulty In: 2014 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3274791.43564312 | Estimated Percent Change: 123.048742349
317 2011-10-13 23:59:09 <avengre> woo 123% increase
318 2011-10-13 23:59:10 <avengre> lol
319 2011-10-13 23:59:13 <avengre> sounds legit