1 2011-10-22 00:00:18 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: I just realized something. It took me an entire month to write 1000 lines of code.
  2 2011-10-22 00:00:21 <Diablo-D3> I must be getting old.
  3 2011-10-22 06:01:38 <osearth> anyone usuing open transactions yet
  4 2011-10-22 12:35:43 <CIA-101> libbitcoin: genjix * re7c8a4..e50ed9 / (7 files in 4 dirs): (5 commits)
  5 2011-10-22 14:14:34 <dikidera> ;;seen gigavps
  6 2011-10-22 14:14:34 <gribble> I have not seen gigavps.
  7 2011-10-22 14:29:09 <phungus> umm, where did the wall go?
  8 2011-10-22 15:00:46 <genjix> anybody had luck building bitcoin on oneiric ocelot?
  9 2011-10-22 15:04:30 <EskimoBob> genjix: I can try. I just upgraded
 10 2011-10-22 15:05:55 <genjix> it has a problem with boost system error_code
 11 2011-10-22 15:06:05 <genjix> but the linker clearly has -lboost_system
 12 2011-10-22 15:06:33 <ThomasV> genjix: I upgraded too and I haven't found how to get rid of gnome 3
 13 2011-10-22 15:06:55 <genjix> ThomasV: you use kde?
 14 2011-10-22 15:07:03 <sipa> just install something else?
 15 2011-10-22 15:07:05 <ThomasV> no, I use gnome
 16 2011-10-22 15:07:09 <sipa> ah
 17 2011-10-22 15:07:18 <genjix> you want gnome2
 18 2011-10-22 15:07:20 <ThomasV> but the new modern desktop is a pain
 19 2011-10-22 15:07:23 <ThomasV> yes
 20 2011-10-22 15:07:30 <genjix> maybe try xfce instead
 21 2011-10-22 15:07:40 <sipa> xfce is nice
 22 2011-10-22 15:07:42 <genjix> i use awesome and it suits my needs
 23 2011-10-22 15:07:43 <ThomasV> I installed gnome 2 and since then X is broken
 24 2011-10-22 15:08:15 <genjix> i kind of like unity, but it feels too much like a granny-desktop for me
 25 2011-10-22 15:08:29 <ThomasV> I mean, the guy who designed this gnome3 think should be punished by waterboarding
 26 2011-10-22 15:08:36 <ThomasV> *thing*
 27 2011-10-22 15:08:49 <ThomasV> or perhaps burnt alive
 28 2011-10-22 15:09:00 <genjix> is it that bad lol
 29 2011-10-22 15:09:26 <ThomasV> try it. you won't be able to open a terminal :-)
 30 2011-10-22 15:09:50 <genjix> oh i got the new bitcoin to build
 31 2011-10-22 15:09:56 <genjix> old object files doh
 32 2011-10-22 15:09:58 <ThomasV> I think there's a gnome fork called Mate
 33 2011-10-22 15:10:02 <EskimoBob> ThomasV: waterboarding and THEN burned
 34 2011-10-22 15:10:14 <ThomasV> yeah
 35 2011-10-22 15:10:20 <EskimoBob> but i do not use gnome so ... do not care how you kill this guy
 36 2011-10-22 15:10:44 <ThomasV> I might quit using it if they go on with the shit
 37 2011-10-22 15:11:18 <genjix> what does opcode 0xfc mean in a script?
 38 2011-10-22 15:11:26 <genjix> do you just ignore it?
 39 2011-10-22 15:11:54 <sipa> ThomasV: how do you mean, not able to open a terminal? what can you do with it, then? :p
 40 2011-10-22 15:12:22 <ThomasV> sipa: it took me 5 minutes to open one
 41 2011-10-22 15:12:49 <ThomasV> ctrl-alt-f1 was more efficient
 42 2011-10-22 15:13:57 <EskimoBob> damn, 60 min and 3 confirmation... this is getting ridiculous. Please guys, fix BTC
 43 2011-10-22 15:14:08 <sipa> EskimoBob: ?
 44 2011-10-22 15:14:23 <UukGoblin> EskimoBob, that's pretty allright actually
 45 2011-10-22 15:14:24 <sipa> it got confirmed, is that not good?
 46 2011-10-22 15:18:16 <terrytibbs> sipa: Not "confirmed" enough for most bitcoin services, though...
 47 2011-10-22 15:19:08 <casascius> Who is running the Bitcoin Wiki?  MagicalTux?  Someone else?  It's getting spammed lately, thought I would ask for rights to delete pages.
 48 2011-10-22 15:19:29 <ThomasV> casascius: yes, MT
 49 2011-10-22 15:19:44 <genjix> this is the first block where the coinbase does not follow the scripting rules: http://blockexplorer.com/rawblock/000000000000046acff93b0e76cd10490551bf871ce9ac9fad62e67a07ff1d1e
 50 2011-10-22 15:20:00 <ThomasV> genjix: how so ?
 51 2011-10-22 15:20:13 <genjix> normally the coinbases can be parsed as scripts
 52 2011-10-22 15:20:42 <genjix> so the usual format is:  number of bytes to push: [ ... ] number of bytes to push: [ ..more bytes... ]
 53 2011-10-22 15:20:58 <genjix> but this one starts with 0xfc, and that's not a proper opcode
 54 2011-10-22 15:21:18 <ThomasV> genjix: does it mean that the coinbase cannot be spent?
 55 2011-10-22 15:22:29 <genjix> block 142312
 56 2011-10-22 15:23:01 <genjix> no, the input is unused
 57 2011-10-22 15:23:19 <genjix> but it makes parsing difficult for me since i always assumed that the input is sane ffs
 58 2011-10-22 15:23:22 <ThomasV> oh then it's fine
 59 2011-10-22 15:23:47 <Eliel> just add a check to not parse the input if it's a coinbase transaction?
 60 2011-10-22 15:24:05 <ThomasV> does the wiki page contain all proper opcodes ?
 61 2011-10-22 15:24:23 <genjix> yeah
 62 2011-10-22 15:24:26 <genjix> it's complete
 63 2011-10-22 15:25:57 <Diablo-D3> has anyone done business with casascius?
 64 2011-10-22 15:26:01 <ThomasV> genjix: did you look at bitcoind's code, to see how it is parsed?
 65 2011-10-22 15:27:04 <genjix> yeah lol. how silly
 66 2011-10-22 15:27:24 <genjix> stores it as a character array internally and inherits from std::vector
 67 2011-10-22 15:27:30 <genjix> both very bad things to do
 68 2011-10-22 15:27:31 <Diablo-D3> anyone?
 69 2011-10-22 15:28:05 <genjix> std::vector has a non-virtual dtor (maybe not on all implementations) and it's bad to inherit from it
 70 2011-10-22 15:28:21 <genjix> also generally you should encapsulate containers, not inherit from them...
 71 2011-10-22 16:32:32 <tcatm> Diablo-D3: I've bought some coins from him.
 72 2011-10-22 16:32:56 <genjix> how are they?
 73 2011-10-22 16:33:17 <tcatm> I like them :)
 74 2011-10-22 16:33:38 <genjix> how do you break the seal though?
 75 2011-10-22 16:33:45 <genjix> it's a metal coin, no?
 76 2011-10-22 16:34:54 <tcatm> it has a sticker on the back hiding the private key. it has very visible marks when removed
 77 2011-10-22 16:35:41 <CIA-101> libbitcoin: genjix * r3d283d29d61e / (include/bitcoin/script.hpp src/script.cpp): Removed script_from_pretty
 78 2011-10-22 16:35:42 <CIA-101> libbitcoin: genjix * r17c53c41da34 / (5 files in 3 dirs): Store coinbase input script as raw byte stream.
 79 2011-10-22 16:36:13 <tcatm> wumpus: how do I install/use qt translations in bitcoin-qt?
 80 2011-10-22 16:37:10 <genjix> tcatm: i don't know about bitcoin-qt but normally qt apps have a build in help that you can use using --help-qt
 81 2011-10-22 16:38:55 <tcatm> no --help-qt in bitcoin-qt :/
 82 2011-10-22 16:45:28 <tcatm> wumpus: also, would it be sane to use TRANSLATIONS = $$files(src/qt/locale/bitcoin_*.ts) in the project file?
 83 2011-10-22 16:58:06 <gasteve> I bought some casascius coins too&not directly from casascius though&but the guy I bought them from didn't have any problems with the order
 84 2011-10-22 16:58:20 <gasteve> (there really cool too)
 85 2011-10-22 17:17:28 <dikidera> Ok
 86 2011-10-22 17:17:38 <dikidera> i have this problem i am interested in fixing
 87 2011-10-22 17:17:56 <grubles> i have some coins from casascius
 88 2011-10-22 17:18:11 <dikidera> If i have bitcoin running and an alt chain client, depending on whicever client was started first, the other client gets ONLY 8 connections
 89 2011-10-22 17:19:01 <phantomcircuit> dikidera, you're behind a router?
 90 2011-10-22 17:19:10 <dikidera> you could say that
 91 2011-10-22 17:19:25 <dikidera> i dont have a router, however i have another PC and using a crossed-cable i share internet
 92 2011-10-22 17:19:38 <phantomcircuit> lol wat
 93 2011-10-22 17:19:53 <dikidera> look, bitcoin can get up to 100 connections, but if i fire up namecoind...i get only 8 on the namecoin client
 94 2011-10-22 17:20:00 <phantomcircuit> ps cross cables aren't necessary with any nic made in the last 5 years
 95 2011-10-22 17:20:21 <dikidera> phantomcircuit:and how would i connect the PCs then>\n1996821
 96 2011-10-22 17:20:39 <phantomcircuit> lol buy a fucking router?
 97 2011-10-22 17:20:42 <phantomcircuit> they're like $20
 98 2011-10-22 17:20:47 <dikidera> that is expensive
 99 2011-10-22 17:20:50 <gmaxwell> Pretty much any gigabit interface is autocross.
100 2011-10-22 17:21:05 <lianj> watching youtube over COM port
101 2011-10-22 17:21:15 <gmaxwell> laplink ftw.
102 2011-10-22 17:21:30 <dikidera> in any case, without router i obviously cant use internet on two computers
103 2011-10-22 17:21:30 <phantomcircuit> dikidera, ok then
104 2011-10-22 17:21:39 <dikidera> i'd obviously need such a cable
105 2011-10-22 17:21:45 <gmaxwell> I wonder if the linux kernel still has a lpt network driver that uses the laplink cables.
106 2011-10-22 17:21:47 <dikidera> plus i paid only 1/20th of what i'd pay for a router
107 2011-10-22 17:21:48 <phantomcircuit> dikidera, wen you say share internet
108 2011-10-22 17:21:58 <phantomcircuit> i assume you mean that idiotic windows "share internet" thing
109 2011-10-22 17:22:07 <dikidera> ICS,yes
110 2011-10-22 17:22:24 <phantomcircuit> you're not going to find a reasonable answer anywhere
111 2011-10-22 17:22:28 <phantomcircuit> just give up
112 2011-10-22 17:22:29 <phantomcircuit> lol
113 2011-10-22 17:22:36 <dikidera> it has never failed me
114 2011-10-22 17:22:38 <dikidera> and as i said
115 2011-10-22 17:22:59 <dikidera> i get a lot of connection *most of the time* with one client running
116 2011-10-22 17:23:06 <dikidera> but if its two...one client gets only 8
117 2011-10-22 17:24:03 <lianj> is your network DSL -> pc-one -> pc-two?
118 2011-10-22 17:25:04 <dikidera> dsl...what's that(sarcasm)
119 2011-10-22 17:26:05 <dikidera> our national phone provider does internet over ADSL...but most of us are on much better internet
120 2011-10-22 17:26:12 <dikidera> Optical etc
121 2011-10-22 17:26:48 <lianj> wan -> pc-one -> pc-two then?
122 2011-10-22 17:27:05 <dikidera> internet cable -> pc-one->pc two
123 2011-10-22 17:27:07 <dikidera> pretty much
124 2011-10-22 17:27:23 <lianj> and on pc-two you only get 8 connections?
125 2011-10-22 17:27:32 <dikidera> only if two clients are running
126 2011-10-22 17:27:55 <lianj> pc-one windows?
127 2011-10-22 17:28:00 <dikidera> both of them
128 2011-10-22 17:28:14 <lianj> happy debugging then
129 2011-10-22 17:28:25 <dikidera> many users have this problem i think
130 2011-10-22 17:28:35 <dikidera> 8 connections...thought i dunno if linux users as well
131 2011-10-22 17:29:18 <gmaxwell> dikidera: I think this isn't a bitcoin problem, it sounds like your connection sharing crap won't forward more than one port at a time.
132 2011-10-22 17:29:26 <lianj> no, this only means that client only does outgoing connection, no incomming
133 2011-10-22 17:30:11 <dikidera> that cant be true
134 2011-10-22 17:30:20 <dikidera> i use a lot of programs which connect through different ports
135 2011-10-22 17:30:25 <dikidera> utorrent being one
136 2011-10-22 17:31:15 <lianj> it really sound like that case. did you try running utorrent on both of them then?
137 2011-10-22 17:31:23 <dikidera> yup
138 2011-10-22 17:31:25 <dikidera> 24/7
139 2011-10-22 17:31:33 <dikidera> both get max speeds
140 2011-10-22 17:31:57 <dikidera> i can have utorrent running, multiplayer gaming and bitcoin as well
141 2011-10-22 17:32:17 <dikidera> and still have a lot of connections but if i fire up another alt chain client...it doesnt like its counterpart
142 2011-10-22 17:34:27 <lianj> always only 8 sounds like no incomming connections, just outgoing period
143 2011-10-22 17:35:16 <dikidera> ok i believe you, but why?
144 2011-10-22 17:35:30 <dikidera> this only happens on any bitcoin like client
145 2011-10-22 17:37:07 <lianj> i dont know, debug the network traffic
146 2011-10-22 17:39:24 <Diablo-D3> [02:32:32] <tcatm> Diablo-D3: I've bought some coins from him.
147 2011-10-22 17:39:28 <Diablo-D3> I wonder if I should
148 2011-10-22 17:39:35 <Diablo-D3> just to have physical evidence bitcoin ever existed
149 2011-10-22 17:40:23 <lianj> you have your gpus :P
150 2011-10-22 17:40:52 <da2ce7> tcatm, bitcoincharts saying 500 again
151 2011-10-22 17:41:10 <tcatm> da2ce7: works here. which url?
152 2011-10-22 17:41:24 <da2ce7> oO it is fixed.
153 2011-10-22 17:41:48 <tcatm> Oh, I see...
154 2011-10-22 17:41:56 <tcatm> that's a bug I'm trying to track down for weeks now
155 2011-10-22 17:42:41 <tcatm> calculating the weighted prices is a little inefficient (= database stuck at 100% cpu for a few minutes) in some cases
156 2011-10-22 17:43:23 <da2ce7> you cannot calculate them async?
157 2011-10-22 17:43:33 <tcatm> I do.
158 2011-10-22 17:44:16 <da2ce7> how large is your db now?
159 2011-10-22 17:44:42 <tcatm> They are fetched from a cache when displayed on the website, but every now and then I need to recalculate them and in some cases that causes the bug.
160 2011-10-22 17:44:54 <Diablo-D3> also, heeeeeee
161 2011-10-22 17:45:00 <Diablo-D3> I have 256 karma on hn
162 2011-10-22 17:45:01 <tcatm> 1221531 trades
163 2011-10-22 17:45:31 <da2ce7> you cannot copy the db in ram, then calculate them on annother thread?
164 2011-10-22 17:45:55 <tcatm> I'm pretty sure that the database daemon is doing just that.
165 2011-10-22 17:46:14 <tcatm> Usually the query takes <100ms anyway except for that strange edge cases :D
166 2011-10-22 17:46:38 <da2ce7> hmm, then, yes it dose sound like a werid bug.
167 2011-10-22 17:47:52 <tcatm> the best solution would be seperating database server and webfrontend anyway
168 2011-10-22 17:48:56 <mrb_> nope, separating them would increase latency of the DB operations
169 2011-10-22 17:49:21 <mrb_> if you combine the equivalent hw into a single box, it can only be faster
170 2011-10-22 17:49:32 <tcatm> not that kind of seperation ;)
171 2011-10-22 17:49:43 <upb> yet they are 2 totally different workloads to optimize the box for
172 2011-10-22 17:49:50 <tcatm> I'd have two daemons, one on the server and a read-only copy on the webfrontend
173 2011-10-22 17:49:51 <mrb_> many people go with "dedicated" databases, because they can't technically upgrade the hw of the primary box (frontend)
174 2011-10-22 17:50:03 <mrb_> ah, ok
175 2011-10-22 17:50:11 <da2ce7> the db should be sitting in ram cashe on every box that renders the webpage.
176 2011-10-22 17:50:22 <da2ce7> and then have a write db on annother server.
177 2011-10-22 17:50:52 <tcatm> almost no HTTP GET touches the db at all. It's all pre-rendered in memory except trades.csv in the API
178 2011-10-22 17:51:12 <da2ce7> oh.
179 2011-10-22 17:51:36 <da2ce7> shouldn't you be doing much of the calculations at the DB level then?
180 2011-10-22 17:51:58 <da2ce7> and have the db sitting in ram on the web-rendering side.
181 2011-10-22 17:52:58 <tcatm> I prefer to fetch the least possible amount of data from the DB and run calculations in other threads
182 2011-10-22 17:54:08 <da2ce7> how many pages do you serve now?  I hit the site a every 10 min or so.  there must be many ppl like me also.
183 2011-10-22 17:54:31 <tcatm> about half a million visitors per month
184 2011-10-22 17:55:09 <da2ce7> and unique?
185 2011-10-22 17:55:09 <mrb_> how about request/sec ?
186 2011-10-22 17:55:18 <tcatm> half a million unique visits ;)
187 2011-10-22 17:55:31 <da2ce7> :O
188 2011-10-22 17:55:36 <da2ce7> and hit's?
189 2011-10-22 17:55:40 <tcatm> about 15.1 reqs/sec right now
190 2011-10-22 17:56:43 <tcatm> with 1.45 reqs/sec for rendered charts
191 2011-10-22 17:57:02 <tcatm> server load 1.03 with 4 cores
192 2011-10-22 18:01:48 <tcatm> about 900k hits/day
193 2011-10-22 18:04:21 <tcatm> it was much worse in june... 21M hits/day :)
194 2011-10-22 18:07:24 <tcatm> da2ce7: btw, you do not need to refresh bitcoincharts. it should auto update
195 2011-10-22 18:07:41 <da2ce7> yeah, but I keep on changing the change, and the view
196 2011-10-22 18:45:20 <ianthius> where can i get the 0.5 RC of the client?
197 2011-10-22 18:45:33 <ianthius> i heard it is supports importing a private key?
198 2011-10-22 18:46:00 <ianthius> this is really awesome and needs to make it to RELEASE
199 2011-10-22 18:46:11 <neofutur> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin
200 2011-10-22 18:46:30 <neofutur> yes afaik you have to build it
201 2011-10-22 18:46:31 <ianthius> we are planning to had out physical bitcents at the #occupy events
202 2011-10-22 18:47:05 <ianthius> neofutur, how far are we away from .5 release?
203 2011-10-22 18:48:02 <neofutur> no idea, its just working well here ( built myself from source )
204 2011-10-22 18:49:57 <ianthius> neofutur, does it have the import private key feature?
205 2011-10-22 18:51:09 <Kiba> price of bitcoin is jumpy jumpy today
206 2011-10-22 18:51:28 <Kiba> taking advantage of social movement is smart, ianthius
207 2011-10-22 18:51:44 <neofutur> mine have signmessage but no import, build a few days ago
208 2011-10-22 18:52:21 <ianthius> Kiba, yeah we are discussing this in #operationbitcoin
209 2011-10-22 18:52:48 <ianthius> problem is there is no good way to get the physicals back into the computer for neaderthals or those that don't trust Mt. Gox
210 2011-10-22 18:53:07 <ianthius> this puts a wrench in our hole plan
211 2011-10-22 18:53:26 <osearth> so goes physics and the grandfather paradox
212 2011-10-22 18:53:46 <osearth> hold there i'll be back, yesterday! woo spooky
213 2011-10-22 18:54:01 <ianthius> wtf?
214 2011-10-22 18:54:03 <ianthius> :)
215 2011-10-22 18:55:13 <osearth> ;]
216 2011-10-22 18:55:47 <ianthius> neofutur, darn, i wonder someone told me that feature was in
217 2011-10-22 18:56:20 <imsaguy> there was discussion about it.
218 2011-10-22 18:57:57 <ianthius> seems the simplest implementation would be to take the private key and institute a transfer immediatly with one of the public addresses already in the wallet effectiely immediately moving all coins at private key address to address in your wallet
219 2011-10-22 18:58:16 <ianthius> has this been discussed?
220 2011-10-22 18:58:19 <imsaguy> it should be left up to the user what to do with it
221 2011-10-22 18:58:28 <imsaguy> there might be times where you dont want an auto transfer to a new address
222 2011-10-22 18:59:03 <gmaxwell> imsaguy: unfortunately the user often doesn't really know what they want.
223 2011-10-22 18:59:22 <imsaguy> that doesn't mean it should be coded to that
224 2011-10-22 18:59:27 <ianthius> imsaguy, i think that is more complicated because you would need to build a transaction history for that key and add the key to your wallet
225 2011-10-22 18:59:36 <gmaxwell> handling imports by instant-transfer also cleans up some of the issues with history management that crop up.
226 2011-10-22 18:59:50 <imsaguy> yes and no
227 2011-10-22 18:59:58 <imsaguy> on the import, you gotta do a rescan anyway
228 2011-10-22 19:00:25 <gmaxwell> yea.. it's really terrible.. you import a key and it has a history.. what do you do with the history?  what happens if some of the send txn in its history have multiple inputs, some of which you don't have?
229 2011-10-22 19:00:40 <imsaguy> thats why there should be options
230 2011-10-22 19:00:47 <imsaguy> if you are recovering your wallet, you might want the history
231 2011-10-22 19:00:52 <gmaxwell> If you transfer the full balance on the import then you just show the incoming transaction for that and none of the history.
232 2011-10-22 19:00:55 <imsaguy> if you are importing a new 'coin' you might not
233 2011-10-22 19:01:27 <gmaxwell> imsaguy: unless you happen to get all the keys the history is probably not rationally importable due to the aformentioned split inputs.
234 2011-10-22 19:02:15 <gmaxwell> Otherwise you end up with crap like a negative balance due to spending inputs you never owned.
235 2011-10-22 19:03:34 <gmaxwell> also, you don't really need a full rescan if you do a transfer, you just need to check the set of open txn but not the full bitcoin history.
236 2011-10-22 19:04:03 <gmaxwell> We don't have a fast way to do that today but its fundimentally easier and a full scan is not possible if you have a pruned chain.
237 2011-10-22 19:06:09 <gmaxwell> adding an index of addresses to live inputs might only add a dozen mb to the disk usage, if you'r willing to make importing a bit slower due to lossy indexing... it would be a lot bigger for the full history.
238 2011-10-22 19:12:51 <phantomcircuit> if anybody is interested i am rapidly adapting bitcoin-alt (python client) to use epoll (or select)
239 2011-10-22 19:21:17 <CIA-101> bitcoin: Nils Schneider  * r38a9edb / (src/qt/locale/bitcoin_es_CL.ts src/qt/locale/bitcoin_nb.ts): update translations: nb, es_CL (from transifex) - http://git.io/NvUqvw
240 2011-10-22 19:42:00 <edcba> casascius: nice coins, is there some picture with where is stored the private key ?
241 2011-10-22 19:43:32 <gmaxwell> edcba: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41892.0  see second picture
242 2011-10-22 19:47:46 <edcba> i bet is already out of stock
243 2011-10-22 19:50:18 <CIA-101> bitcoin: phantomcircuit * rec3bef86c559 bitcoin-alt/ (8 files in 3 dirs): initial work to switch to epoll based system
244 2011-10-22 19:50:25 <gmaxwell> Hm? no it's not out of stock.
245 2011-10-22 19:57:46 <edcba> maybe i should buy some
246 2011-10-22 19:57:56 <edcba> just have to find where to send them lol
247 2011-10-22 19:58:39 <gmaxwell> oh, if thats your only issue  feel free to send them to me.
248 2011-10-22 20:00:42 <edcba> "Sorry, I am only accepting Bitcoins for payment for this item at this time, not dollars."
249 2011-10-22 20:00:45 <edcba> lol
250 2011-10-22 20:01:21 <edcba> i feel so sorry for him not accepting paypal payments ! :)
251 2011-10-22 20:01:53 <gmaxwell> creates a business for everone else.
252 2011-10-22 20:03:25 <edcba> i hope he doesn't generate private keys on some online computer...
253 2011-10-22 20:04:36 <bd_> the problem with those coins is you need to trust the coin minter to actually erase the private key after printing
254 2011-10-22 20:04:55 <gmaxwell> Yep.
255 2011-10-22 20:04:58 <bd_> as well as trust them to actually include the private key
256 2011-10-22 20:05:03 <gmaxwell> Yep.
257 2011-10-22 20:05:38 <bd_> fiat currency coins work because the government guarentees exchange between any current denomination of coin/bill, that takes a lot of trust to pull off here :/
258 2011-10-22 20:05:44 <bd_> and the additional cost doesn't help
259 2011-10-22 20:05:45 <gmaxwell> Fortunately, in his case he's building a lot of business for bitcoin. If his reputation stays good and bitcoin grows in success he will make a lot of money
260 2011-10-22 20:10:42 <CIA-101> libbitcoin: genjix * ra7622f9364eb / (4 files in 2 dirs): Significant speedup of block validation by caching block info for connect_input
261 2011-10-22 20:45:56 <BlueMattBot> Yippie, build fixed!
262 2011-10-22 20:45:57 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoind-Sanitytest build #66: FIXED in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoind-Sanitytest/66/
263 2011-10-22 21:00:19 <CIA-101> bitcoin: phantomcircuit * r666a495561f5 bitcoin-alt/ (8 files in 4 dirs): functional epoll based implementation (still missing tons of stuff
264 2011-10-22 22:30:43 <CIA-101> libbitcoin: genjix * rf4fa29c888b1 / (5 files in 3 dirs): Cache last 500 blocks in ring buffer.