1 2011-12-30 00:57:09 <[Tycho]> You don't have permission to access /Purecoin/ on this server.
  2 2011-12-30 01:02:11 <gmaxwell> [Tycho]: Darcs fetch != http.
  3 2011-12-30 01:07:05 <luke-jr> he left
  4 2011-12-30 01:07:09 <luke-jr> but fail
  5 2011-12-30 01:07:21 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: you fail too btw
  6 2011-12-30 01:07:25 <luke-jr> it's still a HTTP URI
  7 2011-12-30 01:07:32 <luke-jr> so it'd better be using some kind of HTTP :P
  8 2011-12-30 01:07:55 <gmaxwell> sure, but it works with darcs. I have no idea what path or method it uses.
  9 2011-12-30 01:08:15 <gmaxwell> no different that if I'd said https != http. ::shrugs::
 10 2011-12-30 05:11:48 <BlueMatt-mobile> sipa do you have the time and willingness to implement you eval proposal so that everyone feels a bit more comefortable and we can move on?
 11 2011-12-30 05:12:29 <BlueMatt-mobile> ;;seen sipa
 12 2011-12-30 05:12:29 <gribble> sipa was last seen in #bitcoin-dev 6 hours, 40 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: * sipa -> bed
 13 2011-12-30 05:12:39 <BlueMatt-mobile> Heh of course
 14 2011-12-30 05:25:36 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: yea... not being able to see which keepnode connections are actually up is annoying.
 15 2011-12-30 05:26:02 <gmaxwell> (I mean, I can lsof .. but that doesn't tell me, e.g. the last time it was connected)
 16 2011-12-30 05:32:23 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: patches wecome :)
 17 2011-12-30 05:32:29 <BlueMatt> s/wecome/welcome/
 18 2011-12-30 05:32:47 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: though I agree, Im just busy writing other patches atm...
 19 2011-12-30 05:32:58 <gmaxwell> yea yea. its in my queue if you don't get to it first.
 20 2011-12-30 05:33:49 <BlueMatt> ok, well we'll see who gets there first then :)
 21 2011-12-30 05:34:04 <gmaxwell> Mostly unrelated,  I decided to try p2pool again... big improvement from the last time I used it. It has matured a lot, and appears to work really well now.
 22 2011-12-30 05:34:29 <gmaxwell> (my motivation for paying attention to keep node it gave me a reason to groom my local bitcoin nodes...)
 23 2011-12-30 05:35:15 <BlueMatt> nice, thats good to hear
 24 2011-12-30 05:37:46 <vsrinivas> does it include transactions in blocks now?
 25 2011-12-30 05:37:53 <gmaxwell> Yes.
 26 2011-12-30 05:38:52 <gmaxwell> And merged-mines with namecoin... and allows you to have customer miners that get paid (eligius style address in username)
 27 2011-12-30 07:08:07 <BlueMatt> anyone have a chain snapshot with a small number of blocks?
 28 2011-12-30 07:11:34 <BlueMatt> the following is in error:
 29 2011-12-30 07:11:36 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoind-Sanitytest build #132: ABORTED in 2 days 9 hr: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoind-Sanitytest/132/
 30 2011-12-30 07:11:51 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoin build #157: ABORTED in 8.1 sec: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoin/157/
 31 2011-12-30 07:12:46 <BlueMatt> thank you for your understanding
 32 2011-12-30 07:19:46 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoin build #158: FAILURE in 7 min 44 sec: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoin/158/
 33 2011-12-30 07:19:50 <BlueMatt> wtf?
 34 2011-12-30 07:23:42 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: ping
 35 2011-12-30 07:26:43 <Joric> where is that enourmous brain
 36 2011-12-30 07:27:11 <BlueMatt> thats the problem with being on the west coast - when you want to do work, no one else is around...
 37 2011-12-30 07:28:30 <Diablo-D3> heh?
 38 2011-12-30 07:29:45 <BlueMatt> has anyone profiled bitcoin while downloading blocks and figured out how much cpu time is spent on checking if txes belong to the user?
 39 2011-12-30 07:31:17 <Joric> for now i'd rather download the blockchain from http
 40 2011-12-30 07:31:56 <Joric> just figured out it's zipped and placed on sf
 41 2011-12-30 07:32:11 <BlueMatt> best place: http://eu1.bitcoincharts.com/blockchain/
 42 2011-12-30 07:32:22 <BlueMatt> gpg signed and trustworthy :)
 43 2011-12-30 07:33:33 <Joric> the latter is not compressed hell knows why but those 1.2gb wont download faster than a 400mb zip archive )
 44 2011-12-30 07:36:30 <vsrinivas> BlueMatt: i've been gathering ktraces in BSD. no answers yet, just getting data.
 45 2011-12-30 07:36:34 <BlueMatt> true, also tcatm why arent you compressing them?
 46 2011-12-30 07:36:51 <BlueMatt> .tar.xz or something would be nice
 47 2011-12-30 07:38:13 <vsrinivas> i believe gmaxwell suggested oprofile, i've no experience with it, but it looks like a good tool for this.
 48 2011-12-30 07:38:26 <BlueMatt> I just wondered
 49 2011-12-30 07:38:38 <BlueMatt> (not enough to profile myself)
 50 2011-12-30 07:38:41 <vsrinivas> heh
 51 2011-12-30 07:41:00 <CIA-100> DiabloMiner: Patrick McFarland master * r861e333 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Moved two adds to host code, very slight speed increase - http://git.io/ensOCQ https://github.com/Diablo-D3/DiabloMiner/commit/861e33363dbc81343b3d8f766616711de31dafee
 52 2011-12-30 07:42:10 <vsrinivas> hmm. my perception (no data) was that bitcoind got the chain up to date from the same point on openbsd (n:1 thread library) than on other systems i tried... but so much at play, all 1cpu, etc... and that was 0.3.23.
 53 2011-12-30 07:42:26 <vsrinivas> *more quickly ... than.
 54 2011-12-30 07:42:50 <vsrinivas> anyway -- really worth moving ismine to another thread?
 55 2011-12-30 07:43:56 <BlueMatt> I dont know, thats why I was asking, but the moving to another thread isnt because I think its worth it, but because of the way the refactor is being structured...
 56 2011-12-30 07:45:03 <vsrinivas> oh ok.
 57 2011-12-30 07:57:57 <BlueMattBot> Yippie, build fixed!
 58 2011-12-30 07:57:58 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoin build #159: FIXED in 36 min: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoin/159/
 59 2011-12-30 09:05:56 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoind-Sanitytest build #133: ABORTED in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoind-Sanitytest/133/
 60 2011-12-30 09:07:24 <BlueMattBot> Project Bitcoind-Sanitytest build #134: ABORTED in 1 min 25 sec: http://jenkins.bluematt.me/job/Bitcoind-Sanitytest/134/
 61 2011-12-30 09:15:51 <genjix> who makes the bitcoin mac builds?
 62 2011-12-30 09:16:44 <BlueMatt> gavin
 63 2011-12-30 09:17:01 <BlueMatt> (used to be solaris)
 64 2011-12-30 09:17:12 <BlueMatt> solaris aka a couple things
 65 2011-12-30 09:28:40 <tcatm> BlueMatt: compressing took too much cpu time so I disabled it
 66 2011-12-30 09:34:21 <BlueMatt> tcatm: awww
 67 2011-12-30 09:34:41 <BlueMatt> tcatm: though now downloads take forever...
 68 2011-12-30 09:35:07 <edcba> ;;bc,mtgox
 69 2011-12-30 09:35:07 <gribble> {"ticker":{"high":4.26742,"low":4.06334,"avg":4.166349483,"vwap":4.161440606,"vol":38379,"last_all":4.15,"last_local":4.15,"last":4.15,"buy":4.14963,"sell":4.14981}}
 70 2011-12-30 09:46:33 <lfm> I dont understand why anyone would prefer a handle of guest48101 instead of onefixt, makes no sense
 71 2011-12-30 09:47:53 <cjdelisle> force re-nick when the nick is set enforcing and he gets disconnected, reconnected and doesn't auth with nickserv
 72 2011-12-30 09:48:12 <cjdelisle> you have like 30 seconds to auth or you're force renicked
 73 2011-12-30 09:49:15 <lfm> ok, that makes sense
 74 2011-12-30 11:21:18 <genjix> wumpus: this link is down https://download.visucore.com/realcoin/qtgui_deps_1.zip
 75 2011-12-30 11:21:58 <genjix> ERROR: certificate common name `www.caltha-spiritueel.nl' doesn't match requested host name `download.visucore.com'.
 76 2011-12-30 11:23:55 <wumpus> maybe your browser doesn't support SAN (server alternative name) in TLS certificates
 77 2011-12-30 11:24:37 <wumpus> also I'm pretty sure I don't have a "realcoin" directory on that server :-)
 78 2011-12-30 11:24:44 <genjix> ohh
 79 2011-12-30 11:25:03 <wumpus> should be bitcoin
 80 2011-12-30 11:25:45 <genjix> ok that works ^^
 81 2011-12-30 11:26:29 <wumpus> someone did a naive search/replace
 82 2011-12-30 11:26:55 <genjix> yeah that was me
 83 2011-12-30 11:27:19 <edcba> SAN is shit imo
 84 2011-12-30 11:27:36 <edcba> leaking host name of https connection is counter intuitive
 85 2011-12-30 11:28:01 <wumpus> maybe it is, but buying shitloads of IP is shit too
 86 2011-12-30 11:28:37 <edcba> but it could have been handled another way
 87 2011-12-30 11:28:51 <wumpus> then there is SNI, which is better, but it's even less supported :/
 88 2011-12-30 11:28:58 <genjix> how come UPNP isn't bundled with the deps and some of the boost headers are missing?
 89 2011-12-30 11:29:15 <genjix> last time i had to compile upnp myself and copy over matching boost headers
 90 2011-12-30 11:29:23 <genjix> (just curious)
 91 2011-12-30 11:29:49 <wumpus> well main problem is that firefox on xp doesn't support it
 92 2011-12-30 11:30:29 <wumpus> genjix: re: upnp, I just wanted the minimal deps that could be used to build that version of bitcoin
 93 2011-12-30 11:30:37 <genjix> ok
 94 2011-12-30 11:30:40 <wumpus> same with boost, maybe we use more of boost now
 95 2011-12-30 11:31:04 <wumpus> that deps archive was a quick hack so people could test bitcoin-qt
 96 2011-12-30 11:31:12 <wumpus> we don't use it ourselves
 97 2011-12-30 11:31:18 <genjix> ok, well it works for the most part :)
 98 2011-12-30 11:32:34 <wumpus> I should probably assemble a new one some day, when I have some interest in windows again :-)
 99 2011-12-30 11:33:21 <genjix> one thing is that empty space on the overview tab is really ugly
100 2011-12-30 11:33:40 <genjix> i was thinking maybe you could put getinfo information there.
101 2011-12-30 11:33:47 <genjix> one useful stat is number of connections.
102 2011-12-30 11:33:49 <wumpus> well, having empty space is not ugly, it's just the the stuff should be better distributed
103 2011-12-30 11:34:26 <genjix> put a section called
104 2011-12-30 11:34:30 <genjix> Advanced statistics
105 2011-12-30 11:34:37 <genjix> * number of connections
106 2011-12-30 11:34:50 <wumpus> and I don't really want to fill it with numbers or make it like a pilot's dashboard
107 2011-12-30 11:34:55 <genjix> * difficulty
108 2011-12-30 11:34:59 <genjix> ok
109 2011-12-30 11:35:12 <genjix> but empty space doesnt look good.
110 2011-12-30 11:35:26 <genjix> however everything else is really nice.
111 2011-12-30 11:35:27 <wumpus> though I agree advanced statistics would be useful somewhere, it's not something you want to put in new user's faces
112 2011-12-30 11:35:31 <genjix> i like the tab bar.
113 2011-12-30 11:36:30 <wumpus> I agree it's not optimal like this... but adding more information to fill it up is a suboptimal solution as well imo
114 2011-12-30 11:36:48 <genjix> ok that's not a bad argument
115 2011-12-30 11:36:54 <wumpus> the main aim is financial
116 2011-12-30 11:37:26 <wumpus> but yeah maybe number of connections is "simple enough" to understand we can add it :-)
117 2011-12-30 11:38:01 <wumpus> but some opaque number like difficulty... I dunno
118 2011-12-30 11:39:11 <wumpus> it would be interesting to show wether there are any incoming connections (like some bittorrent programs do)
119 2011-12-30 11:39:19 <wumpus> to see if UPNP/port forwarding is working
120 2011-12-30 11:39:23 <genjix> yeah
121 2011-12-30 11:39:42 <genjix> People that are connected to you: X
122 2011-12-30 11:39:55 <wumpus> yeah
123 2011-12-30 11:39:56 <genjix> People you are connected to: Y
124 2011-12-30 11:40:12 <genjix> embolden you
125 2011-12-30 13:00:28 <CIA-100> DiabloMiner: Patrick McFarland master * r4d2ac69 / src/main/java/com/diablominer/DiabloMiner/DiabloMiner.java : Added return to primary pool every 100 minutes, and donation arg, -b - http://git.io/puOuYQ https://github.com/Diablo-D3/DiabloMiner/commit/4d2ac6928fbc2498be03dd10d17c3487e78595d2
126 2011-12-30 13:49:10 <sipa> seed.bitcoin.sipa.be got around 100 DNS requests the past 24h
127 2011-12-30 13:49:23 <Diablo-D3> sipa: heh
128 2011-12-30 13:49:25 <sipa> nice way of tracking how many people run 0.5.99 :)
129 2011-12-30 13:49:38 <Diablo-D3> I wish I knew a way of tracking how many people run diablominer
130 2011-12-30 13:49:51 <sipa> have it phone home :)
131 2011-12-30 13:50:01 <Diablo-D3> uh, nothx
132 2011-12-30 13:50:21 <sipa> you can disguise it under a "checking for updates..." or something :D
133 2011-12-30 13:53:04 <Diablo-D3> heh
134 2011-12-30 13:53:06 <Diablo-D3> sipa: I dunno
135 2011-12-30 13:53:10 <Diablo-D3> if like no one runs it anymore
136 2011-12-30 13:53:14 <Diablo-D3> Im not going to work on it anymore
137 2011-12-30 13:54:09 <Diablo-D3> it doesnt matter if my miner is the fastest or the fullest featured
138 2011-12-30 13:54:24 <Diablo-D3> it only matters if its "trendy" or "hip"
139 2011-12-30 13:54:45 <sipa> call it iMiner
140 2011-12-30 13:54:53 <Diablo-D3> =|
141 2011-12-30 13:56:10 <wutzebaer1> Can anybody tell me why the open cl miner shows shares when solo mining? does he take a dummy target to show that he's working?
142 2011-12-30 13:56:34 <Diablo-D3> wutzebaer1: which miner?
143 2011-12-30 14:01:55 <wutzebaer1> i use guiminer, "Standard Open CL miner"
144 2011-12-30 14:02:31 <Diablo-D3> thats poclbm
145 2011-12-30 14:02:35 <Diablo-D3> not sure what poclbm does anymore
146 2011-12-30 14:02:45 <Diablo-D3> it might just be showing diff 1 responses
147 2011-12-30 14:03:00 <vsrinivas> many miners just track diff=1 submissions as 'shares'
148 2011-12-30 14:03:42 <wutzebaer1> so its just a dummy target?
149 2011-12-30 14:07:43 <makomk> IIRC, poclbm does count difficulty-1 results as shares and use them to estimate the effective hash rate, yeah.
150 2011-12-30 14:30:15 <CIA-100> libbitcoin: genjix * r5c0052398c9d /src/blockchain/bdb/bdb_common.cpp: bdb_blockchain: finished block validation + organisation. connect inputs working for orphan chain lookups. http://tinyurl.com/ca5k9ck
151 2011-12-30 14:30:16 <CIA-100> libbitcoin: genjix * rd3390f22a6bd /src/blockchain/bdb/ (bdb_blockchain.cpp txn_guard.cpp): Performance settings for bdb. http://tinyurl.com/dye83vz
152 2011-12-30 14:30:17 <CIA-100> libbitcoin: genjix * r230efd3ef6ee / (include/bitcoin/script.hpp src/script.cpp): OP_DROP OP_SHA256 OP_EQUAL for tx 4f1433d6433d3ce8a877519ba9ddc310dbee96dba939aca0dbef0176a3563436 in block 157785 http://tinyurl.com/d9q3nex
153 2011-12-30 14:30:19 <CIA-100> libbitcoin: genjix * r67a8395830f8 / (11 files in 3 dirs): bdb_blockchain: Maintain a database tracking spends. http://tinyurl.com/clf9t5t
154 2011-12-30 17:52:20 <philominer> hey guy first time miner here
155 2011-12-30 17:52:34 <philominer> i cannot find the minning software... can someone give me a link ?
156 2011-12-30 17:53:41 <pirateat40> Google cgminer
157 2011-12-30 17:54:15 <philominer> thanks is that the for normal cpu or for gpu?
158 2011-12-30 17:54:39 <luke-jr> philominer: you can't realistically mine on a CPU
159 2011-12-30 17:54:58 <luke-jr> only high end Radeons, FPGAs, and ASICs
160 2011-12-30 17:55:09 <pirateat40> he is mining on cpu?
161 2011-12-30 17:55:27 <luke-jr> that was implied by his "normal cpu" comment
162 2011-12-30 17:55:39 <luke-jr> the only 'normal' in mining is Radeon GPUs
163 2011-12-30 17:55:41 <pirateat40> oh
164 2011-12-30 17:56:29 <philominer> i really new
165 2011-12-30 17:56:39 <philominer> just glanning for information
166 2011-12-30 17:56:48 <philominer> people are really using fgpas?
167 2011-12-30 17:57:17 <philominer> they did reimplement the software in hardware?
168 2011-12-30 17:58:04 <luke-jr> mining isn't really complicated
169 2011-12-30 17:58:06 <luke-jr> it's just SHA256
170 2011-12-30 18:00:48 <[Tycho]> philominer: yes, there are different FPGA products available.
171 2011-12-30 18:01:13 <[Tycho]> But it's not really "hardware implementation", it's just HDL :)
172 2011-12-30 18:02:59 <philominer> interresting
173 2011-12-30 19:26:07 <CIA-100> bips: genjix master * r0a1fef7 / bip-0015.md : No progress on BIP 0015. Draft moved to Deferred. - http://git.io/Pa1Qnw https://github.com/genjix/bips/commit/0a1fef7e8fc7f963a527a8751409ad0024772fd7
174 2011-12-30 19:26:09 <CIA-100> bips: genjix master * rdae6d06 / bip-0010.md : Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/genjix/bips - http://git.io/5cICuw https://github.com/genjix/bips/commit/dae6d06ae0d6efb5da844079a722d8c4629808e3
175 2011-12-30 20:30:16 <CIA-100> libbitcoin: genjix * r8a43e0dfc1f4 / (3 files in 3 dirs): async resolve for domain names + iterate/connect all entries (not only try 1st) http://tinyurl.com/7y2yr99
176 2011-12-30 21:58:55 <Nachtwind> not sure if this is the right support channel atm... but i will try. Got a problem.. a few minutes ago my bitcoind crashed on my linux vps and tells me "hda1: write failed, group block limit reached." when i restart... plus that i have to run dbrecovery.. uhh.. i dont have quotas and about 30GB space free on my harddisk.. anyone got an idea?
177 2011-12-30 22:08:54 <Nachtwind> problem solved
178 2011-12-30 22:08:58 <Nachtwind> idiot outside type of bug
179 2011-12-30 22:09:04 <sipa> what was it?
180 2011-12-30 22:09:07 <Nachtwind> group had a quota.... user didnt
181 2011-12-30 22:09:21 <Nachtwind> and "quota" of course didnt show it on first sight
182 2011-12-30 23:54:13 <midnightmagic> kaminsky's 28c3 talk is brutal ..