1 2012-02-12 00:04:29 <cjd> mm scrapers are crappy
  2 2012-02-12 00:04:46 <cjd> join youtube, suddenly you're member of 30 sites
  3 2012-02-12 00:53:07 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: help
  4 2012-02-12 00:53:11 <luke-jr> git won't fetch a9108382e2dd1540913f15bd2f4ebe3a8977f46a
  5 2012-02-12 00:53:25 <luke-jr> can you make a branch with it? <.<
  6 2012-02-12 01:27:40 <luke-jr> 2e5a781 Enable accessible widgets Qt module on win32, so that people with screen readers such as NVDA can make sense of it.
  7 2012-02-12 01:27:42 <luke-jr> ^ bugfix?
  8 2012-02-12 01:33:23 <BlueMatt> gmaxwell: there was some discussion of moving downloads to github, but it got odd and we ended up not doing that
  9 2012-02-12 01:34:28 <luke-jr> &
 10 2012-02-12 01:34:30 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: POKE
 11 2012-02-12 01:38:07 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: one sec
 12 2012-02-12 01:38:36 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: branch dpi0.5
 13 2012-02-12 01:39:31 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: thanks
 14 2012-02-12 01:50:04 <spawn-> whats up luke-junya!
 15 2012-02-12 01:52:24 <luke-jr> legal battles, why?
 16 2012-02-12 01:53:14 <BlueMatt> ???
 17 2012-02-12 01:53:28 <spawn-> nothin bro i just love the mexican accent :)
 18 2012-02-12 01:53:31 <spawn-> junya
 19 2012-02-12 02:42:44 <midnightmagic> luke-jr: Kick some ass, man! Are you allowed to talk about it?
 20 2012-02-12 02:58:44 <luke-jr> midnightmagic: it's not Bitcoin related
 21 2012-02-12 02:59:25 <midnightmagic> okay! well, still, I hope you kick some ass bro.
 22 2012-02-12 03:03:03 <luke-jr> that primarily depends on how good my lawyer is, I suspect
 23 2012-02-12 04:21:19 <nanotube> gmaxwell> (extensively scraped by sites that are super sketchy) <- you mean, reason not to use google, that puts sketchy crawler sites above actual project pages? :)
 24 2012-02-12 04:26:21 <gmaxwell> nanotube: or any search engine for that matter.
 25 2012-02-12 04:28:22 <nanotube> for all the fancy stuff google (and other search engines) pretends to do, they still fall for the softpedia crap eh?
 26 2012-02-12 04:28:27 <nanotube> sad times
 27 2012-02-12 04:28:57 <gmaxwell> I expect softpedia spends a lot making sure of that outcome.
 28 2012-02-12 04:30:07 <nanotube> well, i'm sure google spends even more /trying/ to make sure that outcome doesn't occur...
 29 2012-02-12 04:31:04 <gmaxwell> nanotube: google has a ethical line to walk wrt manually selected results, I'm guessing softpedia is not impeaded by ethics.
 30 2012-02-12 04:33:28 <nanotube> heh true, that said, when something appears on both sourceforge ("the largest foss host on the web") and on $craploadofothersites, it is pretty simple to say "sourceforge first"
 31 2012-02-12 04:33:36 <nanotube> without breaking any ethical lines
 32 2012-02-12 04:42:54 <luke-jr> BlueMatt: if you want to build 0.4.4rc2 tonight, feel free& I'll hopefully have 0.5.0.4rc2 and 0.5.3rc2 ready tomorrow or whenever wumpus gets back on that other commit
 33 2012-02-12 04:43:45 <luke-jr> or actually, I guess it's fine so long as that gets resolved before final
 34 2012-02-12 04:43:51 <luke-jr> I'll go ahead and tag the 0.5s now
 35 2012-02-12 04:59:03 <gmaxwell> We need to get this updated: http://bitcoin.sourceforge.net/
 36 2012-02-12 05:23:48 <BlueMatt> luke-jr: i dont build while intoxicated
 37 2012-02-12 05:26:39 <gmaxwell> BlueMatt: are you even of drinking age in the US? :)
 38 2012-02-12 05:27:37 <midnightmagic> Maybe he's near Quebec..
 39 2012-02-12 05:28:20 <gmaxwell> He's not. :)
 40 2012-02-12 05:52:20 <egecko> so, this is just a theorhetical question, say someone comes up with some novel coin based idea and wanted to get their coins merged in with the mining for btc and/or nmc.  exactly what all was done to allow the merged mining, and would it support an arbitrary number of different coin types to be mined simultaneously (assuming there are independent coin networks running of course)?
 41 2012-02-12 05:52:59 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: hm. I was hoping to speed up loading by reducing the number of blocks checked.. but even cold cache the checking only takes 4 seconds out of about 64 seconds of the index load.
 42 2012-02-12 05:53:10 <gmaxwell> egecko: yes.
 43 2012-02-12 05:53:53 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: D'oh.
 44 2012-02-12 05:56:58 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: bodes well for the performance of checking it in the background after every startup!
 45 2012-02-12 05:57:08 <gmaxwell> it's much faster than normal validation because it doesn't connect inputs.
 46 2012-02-12 05:57:27 <gmaxwell> Though it's faster still to only check the hashes.
 47 2012-02-12 06:01:55 <tihkal> is there a web-accessible api that a web app could connect to to see block hashes as they are solved?
 48 2012-02-12 06:06:14 <gmaxwell> tihkal: https://blockexplorer.com/q/latesthash
 49 2012-02-12 06:06:47 <tihkal> sweet ass. thanks.
 50 2012-02-12 06:30:19 <tihkal> hmm... that page would have to be reloaded fast enough so that two blocks would not be solved between reloads... what's the shortest time between two blocks that has occurred?
 51 2012-02-12 06:32:52 <gmaxwell> tihkal: just load the main page of block explorer then?
 52 2012-02-12 06:33:00 <gmaxwell> sometimes blocks are found very fast.. e.g. within a second.
 53 2012-02-12 06:34:10 <tihkal> main page it is! blockexplorer.com/q/latesthash^ would be handy heh
 54 2012-02-12 06:34:38 <gmaxwell> some of the api calls on blockexplorer take arguments, but that one doesn't seem to.
 55 2012-02-12 10:06:58 <cjd> 06:00 <+Tykling> cjd: I've seen that "turbo-nat" where it changes the IP inside packets in real-life
 56 2012-02-12 10:07:01 <cjd> 06:00 <+Tykling> we had a lot of fun because the guy was connected to irc without SSL
 57 2012-02-12 10:07:04 <cjd> 06:01 <@cjd> heh
 58 2012-02-12 10:07:07 <cjd> 06:01 <+Tykling> so when he tried to explain that his inside IP was being changed to his outside IP, the sentence made  no sense
 59 2012-02-12 10:07:10 <cjd> 06:01 <+Tykling> because he was saying the same IP both times
 60 2012-02-12 10:07:13 <cjd> 06:01 <@cjd> oh wow
 61 2012-02-12 10:07:26 <cjd> 06:14 <+Tykling> cjd: I think they are iptables features, ip_conntrack_irc and ip_nat_irc - that netgear router is  based on iptables apparently
 62 2012-02-12 10:07:29 <cjd> 06:15 <+Tykling> no apparent way of disabling it either, in that model at least
 63 2012-02-12 10:08:09 <sipa> cjd: good to know, thanks
 64 2012-02-12 10:23:57 <cjd> http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/lxr/http/source/linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_irc.c?v=2.6.11.8
 65 2012-02-12 10:24:17 <cjd> that only operates on decimal representations of the ip addr
 66 2012-02-12 11:55:54 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: sipa opened pull request 829 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/829>
 67 2012-02-12 16:20:21 <finway> So Banks told Paxum to suspend all bitcoin_related_business ?
 68 2012-02-12 16:20:29 <finway> Damn!
 69 2012-02-12 16:28:17 <Dumb_> yes
 70 2012-02-12 16:30:58 <_W_> really?
 71 2012-02-12 16:31:04 <_W_> source?
 72 2012-02-12 16:32:14 <finway> we should make some exposion
 73 2012-02-12 16:32:33 <Dumb_> yeh
 74 2012-02-12 16:32:36 <Dumb_> exposion bitcoin
 75 2012-02-12 16:46:59 <gmaxwell> sipa: GetLocalAddress should potentially take a family argument, and we should return the best address of the right family.
 76 2012-02-12 16:48:08 <gmaxwell> oh you have it, it just wasn't being used where I looked.
 77 2012-02-12 16:52:02 <sipa> gmaxwell: :)
 78 2012-02-12 17:08:27 <luke-jr> egecko: merged mining supports an unlimited number of chains
 79 2012-02-12 17:11:32 <luke-jr> wump: ping?
 80 2012-02-12 18:45:33 <splatster> Joric: You have to make Armory into a binary because I still can't get it to compile.
 81 2012-02-12 18:49:18 <Joric> sorry i'm way too busy for the opensource
 82 2012-02-12 18:50:29 <splatster> Awww
 83 2012-02-12 18:50:34 <splatster> Well fuck
 84 2012-02-12 18:51:02 <splatster> FYI: Bitcoin-QT 0.6 RC1 has a -huge- CPU usage bug
 85 2012-02-12 18:51:26 <sipa> splatster: any details?
 86 2012-02-12 18:51:37 <splatster> 130% CPU usage
 87 2012-02-12 18:51:39 <splatster> bleh
 88 2012-02-12 18:51:44 <sipa> after doing what?
 89 2012-02-12 18:51:44 <splatster> No idea why
 90 2012-02-12 18:51:49 <splatster> Nothing
 91 2012-02-12 18:51:55 <splatster> Literally nothing
 92 2012-02-12 18:52:06 <splatster> No blocks, not TXs
 93 2012-02-12 18:52:08 <splatster> nothing
 94 2012-02-12 18:52:26 <splatster> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3533940/Screen%20Shot%202012-02-12%20at%2010.47.27%20AM.png
 95 2012-02-12 18:52:42 <sipa> and you just started it?
 96 2012-02-12 18:52:57 <splatster> This was this morning and the day before
 97 2012-02-12 18:53:14 <splatster> I closed it because it was making my comp slugish
 98 2012-02-12 18:53:20 <Joric> looks like someone deleted sleep(0)
 99 2012-02-12 18:53:39 <Joric> how is it even possible 132% cpu usage
100 2012-02-12 18:53:53 <Diablo-D3> 100% per core
101 2012-02-12 18:54:12 <splatster> This has two cores
102 2012-02-12 18:54:27 <splatster> 2.66 GHz -each-
103 2012-02-12 18:55:50 <sipa> splatster: you have an encrypted wallet?
104 2012-02-12 18:55:50 <splatster> ;;calc 2.66 * 1.32
105 2012-02-12 18:55:51 <gribble> 3.5112
106 2012-02-12 18:55:57 <splatster> sipa: Ya
107 2012-02-12 18:56:07 <sipa> and you unlocked it?
108 2012-02-12 18:56:15 <splatster> No it was still locked
109 2012-02-12 18:56:25 <splatster> As I said, no TXs
110 2012-02-12 18:56:26 <Joric> splatster, i used xcode for the iphone btw maybe there are more dependencies xcode_4.2_and_ios_5_sdk_for_snow_leopard.dmg
111 2012-02-12 18:56:38 <sipa> splatster: never unlocked it before that 130% occurred?
112 2012-02-12 18:56:57 <splatster> Never unlocked it in V 0.6.0
113 2012-02-12 18:57:06 <sipa> ok
114 2012-02-12 18:57:39 <splatster> Joric: I'm using an even newer version.  I'll check the release notes to see if they stripped anything from it.
115 2012-02-12 18:57:53 <sipa> i'll leave a 0.6.0rc1 running over the night
116 2012-02-12 18:57:56 <splatster> Also, I'm on OS X 10.7.3
117 2012-02-12 19:18:52 <luke-jr> splatster: can you bisect?
118 2012-02-12 19:19:26 <splatster> Bisect what?
119 2012-02-12 19:20:17 <sipa> splatster: which commit introduced the cpu usage bug
120 2012-02-12 19:20:40 <splatster> I don't feel like re compiling everything
121 2012-02-12 19:21:03 <splatster> I can take a look at the code tho
122 2012-02-12 19:21:08 <splatster> Give me a bit
123 2012-02-12 19:21:16 <splatster> In the middle of some work right now
124 2012-02-12 19:21:24 <gmaxwell> Well, more than bisecting.. just attaching a debugging while it's pegged to see where it is would be useful.
125 2012-02-12 19:21:38 <splatster> gmaxwell: Good idea.
126 2012-02-12 19:25:27 <JRWR> splatster: have fun!
127 2012-02-12 19:27:15 <splatster> Thanks for the support, I guess.
128 2012-02-12 19:47:25 <splatster> profiling didn't reveal shit
129 2012-02-12 19:47:29 <splatster> same problem still
130 2012-02-12 19:48:17 <sipa> it is currently using 100% cpu?
131 2012-02-12 22:03:23 <sipa> bah, i have a deadlocked 0.6.0-rc1 bitcoin-qt here, it seems
132 2012-02-12 22:03:42 <sipa> oh wait, i had it attached in a debugger
133 2012-02-12 22:04:21 <TD> heh
134 2012-02-12 22:04:40 <BlueMatt> heh, nice
135 2012-02-12 22:04:47 <TD> yeah i'm like "huh that's weird, my bitcoin-qt 0.6.0-rc1 suddenly stopped accepting connections from bitcoinj"
136 2012-02-12 22:04:54 <TD> "oh wait, it just ran out of sockets"
137 2012-02-12 22:05:08 <TD> seems like lots of nodes want to connect to me tonight. reached 125 pretty fast.
138 2012-02-12 22:05:15 <BlueMatt> how convenient
139 2012-02-12 22:05:46 <luke-jr> lol
140 2012-02-12 22:06:42 <sipa> right phase of the moon, probably
141 2012-02-12 22:07:04 <BlueMatt> yep, that pretty much controls connection counts in bitcoin
142 2012-02-12 22:09:09 <unicron_> Today is Pungenday, the 43rd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3178
143 2012-02-12 22:09:32 <BlueMatt> ...
144 2012-02-12 22:10:37 <luke-jr> unicron_: no, it's the me-th day of Timander in the year ra-san-la-ton-vy
145 2012-02-12 22:11:44 <sipa> unicron_ is right, though! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordian_calendar)
146 2012-02-12 22:29:45 <riush> is there an example of a spent multisig tx anywhere in the chain?
147 2012-02-12 22:30:15 <BlueMatt> main chain? dont think so
148 2012-02-12 22:30:24 <BlueMatt> testnet, probably
149 2012-02-12 22:31:24 <riush> hm okay.. but they are mined on the main chain too right?
150 2012-02-12 22:31:36 <riush> i got a multisig output in yesterday and now i'm trying to spend it :)
151 2012-02-12 22:32:35 <BlueMatt> oh, wait no, blockchain.info supports them
152 2012-02-12 22:32:38 <BlueMatt> Im sure they are in main chain
153 2012-02-12 22:38:17 <riush> oh there is one http://blockexplorer.com/tx/1180df8ad1bfab0ab43f9e57ecf7fd3eb4c5d5e3a96af2ecc51113c3e88fcfe1