1 2012-02-16 00:00:20 <denisx> protocol.cpp needs netinet/in.h and sys/socket.h for freebsd
  2 2012-02-16 00:00:27 <midnightmagic> k
  3 2012-02-16 00:00:40 <midnightmagic> is the define the same thing as it is for NetBSD?  __FreeBSD__
  4 2012-02-16 00:00:50 <denisx> hmm, don't know
  5 2012-02-16 00:01:58 <denisx> yes, it is __FreeBSD__
  6 2012-02-16 00:02:02 <midnightmagic> k
  7 2012-02-16 00:06:54 <denisx> someone wrote a patch already
  8 2012-02-16 00:06:55 <denisx> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-ports@freebsd.org/msg38776.html
  9 2012-02-16 00:07:08 <midnightmagic> k
 10 2012-02-16 00:09:10 <midnightmagic> denisx: that patch makes a few other changes too..
 11 2012-02-16 00:09:58 <denisx> yeah, I think I handled the INT64_MIN problem somehow different
 12 2012-02-16 00:11:49 <denisx> you could ignore the makefile and only add the three lines with the INT64_MIN change at the end
 13 2012-02-16 00:12:03 <denisx> BlueMatt: does that make sense to you?
 14 2012-02-16 00:13:48 <midnightmagic> denisx: what's the minimum required to get it working/building in freebsd?
 15 2012-02-16 00:14:08 <denisx> for the source code thats all
 16 2012-02-16 00:14:29 <midnightmagic> so the two includes and the *INT64_MIN?
 17 2012-02-16 00:14:33 <denisx> yes
 18 2012-02-16 00:15:17 <denisx> the makefile from this guy could be added as makefile.freebsd later at any time
 19 2012-02-16 00:15:26 <denisx> totally unrelated to other stuff
 20 2012-02-16 00:15:33 <da2ce7> bitcoin-qt just crashed:  http://pastebin.com/dLDSbWt4
 21 2012-02-16 00:15:42 <da2ce7> wasn't running it with debuging tho :(
 22 2012-02-16 00:15:44 <denisx> so nobody needs to worry that the new makefile breaks anything
 23 2012-02-16 00:16:52 <da2ce7> I can give the debug log or something if that would help...
 24 2012-02-16 00:17:01 <luke-jr> midnightmagic: there shouldn't be an ifdef&
 25 2012-02-16 00:18:21 <midnightmagic> luke-jr: for the header inclusion, it's a bit of a mishmash anyway..
 26 2012-02-16 00:18:56 <denisx> I remove them and see that freebsd is missing...
 27 2012-02-16 00:19:07 <luke-jr> midnightmagic: either they're required or not. it's not platform-specific
 28 2012-02-16 00:19:37 <midnightmagic> luke-jr: There are actually some platform-specific stuff required, occasionally, for the *BSDs.
 29 2012-02-16 00:19:48 <luke-jr> then *BSD are broken
 30 2012-02-16 00:20:49 <denisx> or linux has some evil cross-including
 31 2012-02-16 00:20:57 <midnightmagic> looks like the better place to put it is in netbase.h. There's already a BSD ifdef in there anyway, and it's included remotely.
 32 2012-02-16 00:20:59 <luke-jr> denisx: that's not relevant
 33 2012-02-16 00:21:26 <denisx> INADDR_NONE and AF_INET is missing
 34 2012-02-16 00:21:42 <denisx> and some other network stuff
 35 2012-02-16 00:22:13 <denisx> 'const struct sockaddr_in' is not declared
 36 2012-02-16 00:22:15 <midnightmagic> denisx: There's also some really irritating sys_errlist issues and and and.. :-(
 37 2012-02-16 00:22:29 <midnightmagic> (But not in bitcoind.. just in other networked applications.)
 38 2012-02-16 00:23:35 <da2ce7> hmm... there seems like there is a issue with my blkindex.dat file... it crashes whenever it is not removed.
 39 2012-02-16 00:23:52 <luke-jr> http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/online/pages/man3/inet_makeaddr.3.html
 40 2012-02-16 00:24:12 <luke-jr> 3 includes required for those symbols
 41 2012-02-16 00:24:49 <midnightmagic> denisx: Uh..  have you looked at bitcoin head?
 42 2012-02-16 00:24:59 <denisx> midnightmagic: no
 43 2012-02-16 00:25:45 <midnightmagic> I don't see INT64_MIN in there anywhere.
 44 2012-02-16 00:26:21 <midnightmagic> numeric_limits is already applied to net.cpp
 45 2012-02-16 00:28:51 <denisx> damn, code is refactored for ipv6 anyway ;(
 46 2012-02-16 00:29:14 <midnightmagic> denisx: :-) still need the headers?
 47 2012-02-16 00:29:50 <denisx> midnightmagic: sorry that I wasted your time ;(
 48 2012-02-16 00:30:08 <midnightmagic> 'sokay. it's just a git branch, it can be deleted.
 49 2012-02-16 00:30:36 <midnightmagic> denisx: On the plus side, I got a buildslave building in the green!! woo!
 50 2012-02-16 02:55:52 <nanotube> BlueMatt: ,,bc,slushpool
 51 2012-02-16 02:55:53 <gribble> 1296214000
 52 2012-02-16 02:56:21 <Graet> ;;bc,stats
 53 2012-02-16 02:56:42 <gribble> Current Blocks: timed out | Current Difficulty: timed out | Next Difficulty At Block: timed out | Next Difficulty In: 338 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 8 hours, 8 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1374600.52703893 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.365811730704
 54 2012-02-16 02:56:45 <Graet> gribble hasnt been happy today nanotube
 55 2012-02-16 02:57:03 <nanotube> Graet: how so? timing out?
 56 2012-02-16 02:57:07 <nanotube> seems happy enough right now...
 57 2012-02-16 02:57:23 <Graet> yep, tho maybe blockexplorer was lagging b4
 58 2012-02-16 02:57:34 <Graet> might not have been gribbles fault
 59 2012-02-16 02:57:45 <nanotube> ah yea, all the calculation commands rely on data from bbe
 60 2012-02-16 02:57:48 <Graet> ;;bc,calc [bc,ozcoin]
 61 2012-02-16 02:57:49 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 404000000 Khps, given current difficulty of 1379647.4392143 , is 4 hours, 4 minutes, and 27 seconds
 62 2012-02-16 02:57:54 <nanotube> if bbe lags out, things don't work. :)
 63 2012-02-16 02:58:00 <Graet> yep working fine
 64 2012-02-16 02:58:04 <nanotube> :)
 65 2012-02-16 02:58:10 <BlueMatt> ;;bc,calc 200
 66 2012-02-16 02:58:12 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 200 Khps, given current difficulty of 1379647.4392143 , is 939 years, 25 weeks, 3 days, 5 hours, 32 minutes, and 37 seconds
 67 2012-02-16 02:58:16 <BlueMatt> nanotube: ahh, ok
 68 2012-02-16 02:58:30 <EPiSKiNG-> ;;bc,calc 400000
 69 2012-02-16 02:58:31 <gribble> The average time to generate a block at 400000 Khps, given current difficulty of 1379647.4392143 , is 24 weeks, 3 days, 10 hours, 57 minutes, and 31 seconds
 70 2012-02-16 02:58:35 <nanotube> in other news - did you notice bitcoin made it into the list of 'fastest growing projects' on the sourceforge monthly mailing? :)
 71 2012-02-16 02:58:44 <Graet> wow 4 hours and we just cracked 24 lol
 72 2012-02-16 02:59:01 <Graet> and the front page of sourceforge nanotube :)
 73 2012-02-16 02:59:03 <nanotube> Graet: you've been mining for 24 hours without a block, at 400ghps?
 74 2012-02-16 02:59:09 <Graet> close
 75 2012-02-16 02:59:13 <BlueMatt> nanotube: it was on the front page listed as "Best Projects" or something like that too
 76 2012-02-16 02:59:21 <nanotube> ah yes, i see it. awesome :)
 77 2012-02-16 02:59:22 <BlueMatt> no "Project of the Month"
 78 2012-02-16 02:59:22 <Graet> but hey we have had extreme good luck up to this
 79 2012-02-16 02:59:32 <nanotube> and boost (which bitcoin uses extensively) is potm. hehe
 80 2012-02-16 02:59:41 <Graet> http://ozco.in/content/luck-bitcoin  << nanotube
 81 2012-02-16 02:59:47 <nanotube> ;;bc,prob 400000000 24h
 82 2012-02-16 02:59:50 <Graet> yellow line is difficulty :)
 83 2012-02-16 02:59:53 <gribble> Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
 84 2012-02-16 02:59:57 <EPiSKiNG-> how close are we to half of the bitcoins being in circulation?
 85 2012-02-16 02:59:57 <nanotube> ah come on bbe
 86 2012-02-16 03:00:00 <nanotube> ;;bc,prob 400000000 24h
 87 2012-02-16 03:00:02 <Graet> ooh there it was
 88 2012-02-16 03:00:06 <gribble> Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
 89 2012-02-16 03:00:27 <nanotube> well, if bbe is not responding within the time limit... nothing i can do
 90 2012-02-16 03:00:36 <Graet> :)
 91 2012-02-16 03:00:46 <Graet> bbl
 92 2012-02-16 03:00:50 <BlueMatt> shame, bitcoin is just too big for its web servers...
 93 2012-02-16 03:01:21 <EPiSKiNG-> ;;bc,blocks
 94 2012-02-16 03:01:26 <EPiSKiNG-> ;;totalbc
 95 2012-02-16 03:01:26 <gribble> timed out
 96 2012-02-16 03:01:27 <gribble> Error: "totalbc" is not a valid command.
 97 2012-02-16 03:01:29 <nanotube> heh well, maybe if someone put out a site with a bunch of stats, without hosting the whole bbe, that would do it.
 98 2012-02-16 03:01:34 <EPiSKiNG-> ;;bc,total
 99 2012-02-16 03:01:35 <gribble> Error: "bc,total" is not a valid command.
100 2012-02-16 03:01:35 <nanotube> EPiSKiNG-: bc,totalbc
101 2012-02-16 03:01:39 <EPiSKiNG-> thx
102 2012-02-16 03:01:42 <nanotube> but all of those are from bbe
103 2012-02-16 03:01:47 <EPiSKiNG-> ;;bc,totalbc
104 2012-02-16 03:01:50 <BlueMatt> nanotube: blockchain.info maybe?
105 2012-02-16 03:01:52 <gribble> timed out
106 2012-02-16 03:01:58 <BlueMatt> (or gribble's own bitcoind)
107 2012-02-16 03:02:35 <nanotube> BlueMatt: ah yea, guess they do have an api it seems... i suppose they can be used as a backup...
108 2012-02-16 03:02:52 <BlueMatt> nanotube: meh, whatever not like its really that important
109 2012-02-16 03:02:58 <BlueMatt> bbe will be back up soon enough anyway
110 2012-02-16 03:03:20 <nanotube> yea but still, it's sad. :)
111 2012-02-16 03:03:27 <BlueMatt> yea
112 2012-02-16 03:12:29 <EPiSKiNG-> when the BTC reward for mining cuts in half, will the difficult adjust such that the total amount of BTC in existence will follow this graph: https://blockchain.info/charts/total-bitcoins?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=
113 2012-02-16 03:12:44 <EPiSKiNG-> ?
114 2012-02-16 03:17:35 <BlueMatt> no
115 2012-02-16 03:25:07 <gmaxwell> EPiSKiNG-: no, it follows this graph: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/File:Total_bitcoins_over_time_graph.png
116 2012-02-16 03:25:21 <gmaxwell> and the reward change is what makes that happen.
117 2012-02-16 03:54:41 <midnightmagic> EPiSKiNG-: the difficulty won't move except in response to hashrate. those charts just show the additive of reward to the total, over time, and in fact most of those charts get it brutally wrong because none of them draw the line out to the time when the rewards will actually cease! (Up in the 2100s somwhere.)
118 2012-02-16 03:55:49 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: even if the rewards never ceased we'd still not get above 21m though. :)
119 2012-02-16 03:56:18 <jm9000> Is there a place I can download a windows binary that has debugging symbols?
120 2012-02-16 03:56:21 <gmaxwell> The ceasing isn't really the important part (and I hope if bitcoin is still used in 2140 that the precision will have been increased before then!)
121 2012-02-16 03:56:24 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: The problem is that the line stops, and so everyone thinks the rewards are going away in the 2030s.
122 2012-02-16 03:56:38 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: oh, that true. fair enough.
123 2012-02-16 03:56:52 <BlueMatt> jm9000: atm: no... :(
124 2012-02-16 03:57:17 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: the date is sometime 2140 approximately, assuming precision isn't increased.
125 2012-02-16 03:57:51 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: I would be a happy person if I live to see Bitcoins in-use up past 2050+..
126 2012-02-16 04:00:45 <nanotube> midnightmagic: i'd be a happy person if i get to see 2140, regardless of what happens to bitcoins :)
127 2012-02-16 04:01:05 <jm9000> I want to try to debug issue #640, but I need a binary with debugging symbols. It's been 3 months since I added that issue, and I still can't get my Windows dev environment to compile it. If someone can post up a binary somewhere, that would help me out a bunch.
128 2012-02-16 04:01:37 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: Current precision rewards drop to 0 at block 6930000, so another 6763001 blocks. 6763001/2016 = 3354.66 retargets, assume 2 weeks per retarget, = 6709.3 weeks, or 129.02 years from now. 2012 + 129 yrs = 2141 AD. sweet.
129 2012-02-16 04:02:21 <midnightmagic> nanotube: Yeah no kidding! :)
130 2012-02-16 04:03:02 <midnightmagic> I would be like 170
131 2012-02-16 04:03:23 <midnightmagic> And my bitcoin fortune would buy a country. lol
132 2012-02-16 04:03:23 <nanotube> jm9000: haven't seen one, but if you just stick around, someone may come by and cough one up :)
133 2012-02-16 04:03:33 <nanotube> and another 100 years :)
134 2012-02-16 04:03:49 <nanotube> at least
135 2012-02-16 04:03:55 <gmaxwell> Seen In Time yet?
136 2012-02-16 04:04:00 <midnightmagic> I have!
137 2012-02-16 04:04:03 <midnightmagic> Just the other night.
138 2012-02-16 04:04:19 <midnightmagic> I don't care what people say about Justin Timberlake, I like him, he's an interesting actor.
139 2012-02-16 04:04:33 <Diablo-D3> >actor
140 2012-02-16 04:04:35 <Diablo-D3> trollface.jpg
141 2012-02-16 04:04:37 <gjs278> yeah
142 2012-02-16 04:04:38 <gjs278> really
143 2012-02-16 04:04:50 <gjs278> facebook movie by playing what he thinks of himself
144 2012-02-16 04:04:51 <gmaxwell> I thought it was pretty excellently done. Very gripping. I thought his performance was good.
145 2012-02-16 04:05:13 <Diablo-D3> yeah, nothing quite like a gay boyband, right?
146 2012-02-16 04:05:23 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: You haven't been poisoned by the fashionistas I see. Well done! :)
147 2012-02-16 04:05:40 <Diablo-D3> midnightmagic: thats not even a word.
148 2012-02-16 04:05:41 <gmaxwell> I don't have much of a clue who he is even.
149 2012-02-16 04:05:49 <midnightmagic> Diablo-D3: Poisoned is too a word.
150 2012-02-16 04:05:51 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: hes some dickwad who was invented
151 2012-02-16 04:06:17 <Diablo-D3> he was manufactured as a ... whatever the fuck you call a member of a boyband... a fag?
152 2012-02-16 04:06:19 <gmaxwell> But the acting was good they had such a contrived mechanic to make every moment tense, and yet it never felt contrived to me.
153 2012-02-16 04:06:41 <Diablo-D3> back in the 90s
154 2012-02-16 04:07:06 <midnightmagic> gmaxwell: His boyband may have been constructed, but where are his boyband buddies? Timberlake turned out to be an interesting person.
155 2012-02-16 04:07:08 <Diablo-D3> they picked him up off the street as some homeless dude and tried to teach him how to dance and sing much like how you'd do it to a trained monkey
156 2012-02-16 04:07:23 <gjs278> don't be so quick to walk away
157 2012-02-16 04:07:28 <Diablo-D3> and lots of 14 year old girls bought his fake music
158 2012-02-16 04:07:29 <midnightmagic> So what? He's making the best of it.
159 2012-02-16 04:07:33 <Diablo-D3> and made someone else rich
160 2012-02-16 04:07:43 <midnightmagic> Also not a point against him.
161 2012-02-16 04:07:51 <Diablo-D3> midnightmagic: I dunno man, if I ever end up with "handlers", I will be make sure to bankrupt them
162 2012-02-16 04:08:00 <Diablo-D3> but he worked for the enemy so he is the enemy
163 2012-02-16 04:08:09 <Diablo-D3> fuck the RIAA, and fuck their fake music
164 2012-02-16 04:08:22 <midnightmagic> Diablo-D3: He stepped over the enemy and kicked him in the throat.
165 2012-02-16 04:08:32 <nanotube> well, a lot of people are willing to work for unsavory characters, when the alternative is no money.
166 2012-02-16 04:08:37 <Diablo-D3> midnightmagic: so he works for the MPAA, whats the difference
167 2012-02-16 04:08:46 <midnightmagic> Enemy didn't teach him to act, or to correct his image by self-deprecating humour skits. :)
168 2012-02-16 04:08:50 <Diablo-D3> nanotube: then I shall continue to have no money
169 2012-02-16 04:09:01 <Diablo-D3> midnightmagic: he cant act
170 2012-02-16 04:09:27 <Diablo-D3> find me one person who can act that was born in america and is still alive.
171 2012-02-16 04:09:36 <nanotube> Diablo-D3: well, i said 'a lot' rather than 'all'. kudos to you, and also that's not necessarily the case that you'll continue to have no money - you may find profitable opportunities that do not involve compromising your morals.
172 2012-02-16 04:09:45 <nanotube> gmaxwell: 'in time' is that some recent movie that came out?
173 2012-02-16 04:09:52 <gmaxwell> nanotube: yes.
174 2012-02-16 04:09:59 <Diablo-D3> Ive never even heard of "in time"
175 2012-02-16 04:10:01 <Diablo-D3> sounds retarded
176 2012-02-16 04:10:01 <nanotube> gmaxwell: heh ic :)
177 2012-02-16 04:10:06 <midnightmagic> Diablo-D3: Dick van Dyke.
178 2012-02-16 04:10:17 <gmaxwell> In Time
179 2012-02-16 04:10:19 <BlueMatt> jm9000: if you give me an hour or so, I may be able to hack one together
180 2012-02-16 04:10:19 <gmaxwell> Amy Israel
181 2012-02-16 04:10:22 <gmaxwell> Kristel Laiblin
182 2012-02-16 04:10:24 <Diablo-D3> midnightmagic: died in a plane crash in the late 40s, was replaced by a worse stand in.
183 2012-02-16 04:10:24 <gmaxwell> Eric Newman
184 2012-02-16 04:10:27 <gmaxwell> Written by
185 2012-02-16 04:10:29 <gmaxwell> Starring
186 2012-02-16 04:10:32 <gmaxwell> Justin Timberlake
187 2012-02-16 04:10:34 <BlueMatt> jm9000: but getting optional additional debug symbol downloads is on my todo list before too long
188 2012-02-16 04:10:34 <gmaxwell> Cillian Murphy
189 2012-02-16 04:10:37 <gmaxwell> Olivia Wilde
190 2012-02-16 04:10:39 <gmaxwell> Alex Pettyfer
191 2012-02-16 04:10:42 <gmaxwell> Vincent Kartheiser
192 2012-02-16 04:10:44 <gmaxwell> Johnny Galecki
193 2012-02-16 04:10:46 <Diablo-D3> directed, produced, and written by the same person? what the fuck is this, mst3k?
194 2012-02-16 04:10:47 <gmaxwell> Music by
195 2012-02-16 04:10:49 <gmaxwell> Cinematography
196 2012-02-16 04:10:52 <gmaxwell> Editing by
197 2012-02-16 04:10:54 <gmaxwell> Studio
198 2012-02-16 04:10:55 <midnightmagic> lol, pasteflood hasn't happened to me in a while.
199 2012-02-16 04:10:57 <gmaxwell> New Regency
200 2012-02-16 04:11:18 <nanotube> an accidental paste?
201 2012-02-16 04:11:32 <BlueMatt> <nanotube> an accidental paste? <-- me thinks so...
202 2012-02-16 04:11:32 <Diablo-D3> gmaxwell: fail.