1 2012-06-18 00:51:49 <jgarzik> come on, block.  mint!
  2 2012-06-18 00:53:49 <luke-jr> that's what she said
  3 2012-06-18 00:57:13 <Cinder_> Looking for a way to filter the download/save file API by data type or downloading server ? Any ideas?
  4 2012-06-18 00:58:32 <luke-jr> &
  5 2012-06-18 01:08:47 <Karmaon> luke-jr: why are your periods so small?
  6 2012-06-18 01:08:49 <Karmaon> ...
  7 2012-06-18 01:08:52 <Karmaon> thats what she said!
  8 2012-06-18 01:23:05 <devrandom> /peek sipa
  9 2012-06-18 01:33:17 <jgarzik> huh.  looks like somebody is doing sendmany, to send to SD: http://blockexplorer.com/block/000000000000029e73317727abd0519c62753a95adfd18583edb1d63ed58d441
 10 2012-06-18 01:33:44 <jgarzik> maybe somebody changed their bot to be more network-friendly
 11 2012-06-18 01:37:50 <gmaxwell> or they're trying to break it again.
 12 2012-06-18 01:42:24 <jgarzik> sendmany for SD reduces total number of transactions, which is IMO good.  And I -think- a larger TX w/ fee will not penalize non-SD TX's as adversely as sending out a larger number of singleton TX's
 13 2012-06-18 01:43:06 <jgarzik> i.e. I think it will not waste space in the free area
 14 2012-06-18 01:43:24 <jgarzik> (correct me if I'm wrong...)
 15 2012-06-18 01:53:37 <dk5> is the 20-byte hash in the BIP16 type script different from the 20-byte hash in "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 <pubKeyHash> OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG"?
 16 2012-06-18 01:54:22 <gmaxwell> dk5: it is the hash of a script, not a hash of some public key.
 17 2012-06-18 01:56:00 <dk5> for <pubKeyHash>, it was the RIPEMD160(SHA256(pubKey)). What is the 20-byte hash in BIP16? RIPEMD160(pubKey+OP_CHECKSIG)?
 18 2012-06-18 01:56:41 <gmaxwell> dk5: a complete serialized script.
 19 2012-06-18 01:56:49 <dk5> oh
 20 2012-06-18 01:58:28 <dk5> gmaxwell: so I'm misreading "scriptSig: [signature] {[pubkey] OP_CHECKSIG}" and "scriptPubKey: OP_HASH160 [20-byte-hash of {[pubkey] OP_CHECKSIG} ] OP_EQUAL" from the wiki then?
 21 2012-06-18 02:00:28 <dk5> gmaxwell: are there any examples of this already in the block chain?
 22 2012-06-18 02:01:05 <luke-jr> dk5: in practice, that script is never used in P2SH as implemented today
 23 2012-06-18 02:01:14 <luke-jr> dk5: bitcoind only supports multisigs
 24 2012-06-18 02:01:25 <gmaxwell> Sure, but I don't recall off the top of my head and I need to run. Luke can probably point you to some.
 25 2012-06-18 02:01:43 <dk5> gmaxwell: k, thanks :)
 26 2012-06-18 02:02:16 <dk5> luke-jr: but it will be used eventually, no?
 27 2012-06-18 02:07:53 <luke-jr> dk5: that's BIP18 or 19
 28 2012-06-18 02:08:06 <luke-jr> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0018
 29 2012-06-18 02:13:04 <dk5> luke-jr: the stuff I pasted was on the P2SH wiki. i guess there is overlap. is there an example somewhere for P2SH scripts?
 30 2012-06-18 02:13:31 <luke-jr> I forget, sorry.
 31 2012-06-18 04:27:28 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: Diapolo opened pull request 1478 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1478>
 32 2012-06-18 04:37:40 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: Diapolo opened pull request 1479 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1479>
 33 2012-06-18 05:03:13 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: fanquake opened pull request 1480 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1480>
 34 2012-06-18 05:41:05 <Eliel> any ideas what's creating this spike in this filtered graph now? http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-excluding-popular
 35 2012-06-18 05:42:21 <MysteryBanshee> probably me sending so many transactions :P
 36 2012-06-18 05:42:22 <MysteryBanshee> j/k
 37 2012-06-18 05:53:07 <Eliel> MysteryBanshee: you've sent enough to make a spike of 5000?
 38 2012-06-18 05:53:24 <Eliel> well, ok, 4000
 39 2012-06-18 05:53:38 <MysteryBanshee> lol
 40 2012-06-18 05:53:46 <MysteryBanshee> nah I think ive only sent a few hundred
 41 2012-06-18 05:54:07 <MysteryBanshee> probably satoshi dice
 42 2012-06-18 05:56:00 <Eliel> that graph filters out satoshidice since those belong to the 100 most common addresses
 43 2012-06-18 05:56:24 <Eliel> the graph that doesn't filter them out looks like this: http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-per-block
 44 2012-06-18 08:45:49 <leotreasure> hello
 45 2012-06-18 08:46:50 <leotreasure> i'm trying to build the bitcoin daemon on os x lion and get an error: ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
 46 2012-06-18 08:47:03 <sipa> which symbols?
 47 2012-06-18 08:48:11 <leotreasure> one sec
 48 2012-06-18 08:48:46 <leotreasure> http://pastebin.com/yydXhT0g
 49 2012-06-18 08:48:55 <leotreasure> looks like some boost ones
 50 2012-06-18 08:49:33 <sipa> and openssl
 51 2012-06-18 08:49:43 <sipa> and bdb
 52 2012-06-18 08:51:12 <leotreasure> ok, do you have any idea how can i get these symbols to work?
 53 2012-06-18 08:53:32 <sipa> by linking against the appropriate libraries
 54 2012-06-18 08:53:46 <sipa> unfortunately i have absolutely no idea how to do that on osx
 55 2012-06-18 08:54:23 <leotreasure> ok thanks for your help - will look into it
 56 2012-06-18 08:54:45 <sipa> did you follow doc/build-osx.txt ?
 57 2012-06-18 08:54:49 <leotreasure> yes
 58 2012-06-18 08:55:05 <sipa> ok
 59 2012-06-18 09:59:38 <MysteryBanshee> hey guys
 60 2012-06-18 09:59:47 <MysteryBanshee> how long does it take to brute force a bitcoin private key if you only have a third?
 61 2012-06-18 10:00:12 <sipa> 1/3 ?
 62 2012-06-18 10:00:15 <Diablo-D3> a third what?
 63 2012-06-18 10:01:07 <sipa> Diablo-D3: do you know how fast oclvanitygen is compared to bitcoin mining on the same hardware?
 64 2012-06-18 10:01:08 <MagicalTux> a third of the key, I guess
 65 2012-06-18 10:01:15 <MagicalTux> it still take a very long time
 66 2012-06-18 10:01:34 <Diablo-D3> sipa: no, but I do know its a lot faster than cpu vanity genning ;)
 67 2012-06-18 10:01:50 <sipa> so 85 out of 256 bits of the secret key are known?
 68 2012-06-18 10:02:37 <sipa> oclvanitygen does like 20 Mkey/s on recent GPU cards, it seems
 69 2012-06-18 10:03:48 <Diablo-D3> sipa: that seems low
 70 2012-06-18 10:03:55 <sipa> so let's make a convervative guess that hardware doing X MH/s can do X/10 Mkey/s (it's probably less)
 71 2012-06-18 10:04:12 <sipa> ;;bc,nethash
 72 2012-06-18 10:04:13 <gribble> 12321.945276568917
 73 2012-06-18 10:04:42 <sipa> so if the entire network switched to trying to brute force your key, it'd do 1 Tkey/s, let's say
 74 2012-06-18 10:04:43 <Diablo-D3> I wonder how its hashing those
 75 2012-06-18 10:04:53 <Diablo-D3> because theres probably a shitload of improvement to do
 76 2012-06-18 10:05:08 <sipa> i doubt that; the bulk of the computation is EC additions
 77 2012-06-18 10:05:44 <Diablo-D3> yeah, but how much of it is being done in parallel
 78 2012-06-18 10:07:13 <sipa> anyway, to brute force 256-85=171 bits at 1Tkey/s, it'd take some 94847369674933745800730934462790 years
 79 2012-06-18 10:08:06 <Diablo-D3> I should look at oclvanitygen anyhow
 80 2012-06-18 10:08:12 <Diablo-D3> I wanna change my keys over to vanity keys
 81 2012-06-18 10:08:19 <Diablo-D3> s/keys/addresses/
 82 2012-06-18 10:28:47 <xorgate> oclvanitygen does about 30mkeys/s
 83 2012-06-18 10:28:52 <xorgate> on my 5870
 84 2012-06-18 10:31:35 <sipa> and how many hashes does it do?
 85 2012-06-18 10:32:02 <xorgate> cgminer does ~355mhashes/s
 86 2012-06-18 10:32:17 <Diablo-D3> so sipa was right
 87 2012-06-18 10:32:22 <Diablo-D3> 10 to 1
 88 2012-06-18 10:32:32 <drizztbsd> oclvanitygen works better on nvidia
 89 2012-06-18 10:36:13 <Diablo-D3> drizztbsd: find that hard to believe
 90 2012-06-18 10:36:25 <Diablo-D3> the kernel in oclvanitygen is probably shit and needs optimization badly
 91 2012-06-18 10:36:35 <drizztbsd> yes, so it works better on nvidia atm
 92 2012-06-18 10:36:37 <drizztbsd> :P
 93 2012-06-18 10:38:15 <sipa> it relies on fast multiplication
 94 2012-06-18 10:38:30 <sipa> hashing only does additions and xors and shift/rotate
 95 2012-06-18 10:38:43 <sipa> well, and other bitwise operations
 96 2012-06-18 10:39:00 <Diablo-D3> does it use floats?
 97 2012-06-18 10:39:03 <sipa> no
 98 2012-06-18 10:41:12 <Diablo-D3> then its slower.
 99 2012-06-18 10:42:35 <sipa> feel free to optimize it
100 2012-06-18 10:42:58 <sipa> i already found it quite impressive how fast they got this on gpu's
101 2012-06-18 10:43:38 <drizztbsd> I use it on gtx 560 ti :P
102 2012-06-18 10:49:08 <Diablo-D3> sipa: meh
103 2012-06-18 10:49:17 <Diablo-D3> its just more work
104 2012-06-18 10:49:25 <Diablo-D3> and probably whoever owns the project wont accept the patch anyhow
105 2012-06-18 11:00:15 <Graet> p2k, is author of ecoinpool. we are looking to try optimise pool, if any devs around to answe a few questions. :)
106 2012-06-18 11:00:24 <p2k> heh, hi everyone
107 2012-06-18 11:02:29 <p2k> my question is: if a new block arrives, does bitcoind remove the validated transactions from its transaction pool before forwarding the block to peers?
108 2012-06-18 11:03:05 <sipa> p2k: from the memory pool? almost simtaneously i'd say
109 2012-06-18 11:04:01 <p2k> sipa: "almost" but not immediately? i.e. it's done in another thread?
110 2012-06-18 11:04:46 <sipa> yes, the send is done from the network thread
111 2012-06-18 11:05:26 <sipa> actually, i'll need to look it up
112 2012-06-18 11:07:43 <p2k> the thing is, if it is done in a thread and the block is forwarded while the txn purge process is still running, a pool software might take advantage of that
113 2012-06-18 11:09:02 <mrvision> hello
114 2012-06-18 11:09:29 <mrvision> I have a problem. When i try to create a php that connects to the bitcoind server it returns 403 error
115 2012-06-18 11:09:58 <mrvision> does anybody know the solution?
116 2012-06-18 11:10:02 <p2k> sipa: my current idea is: right after a block change, we could for once (and for speed up) assume that all transactions get purged and construct a new block entirely within the pool software
117 2012-06-18 11:11:48 <p2k> sipa: then send this block out via longpolling to the clients. on any subsequent request, we go through the regular process of asking bitcoind for pooled transactions (which may take some time, if bitcoind is still sorting out things)
118 2012-06-18 11:12:47 <mrvision> does anybody know how to connect with the json library to the bitcoind server?
119 2012-06-18 11:16:04 <xorgate> mrvision there's libs for that
120 2012-06-18 11:16:31 <mrvision> it must be something about the config of my server
121 2012-06-18 11:16:34 <p2k> sipa: worst case is, that a block is solved with only the coinbase transaction where otherwise valid and still pooled transactions could have been integrated. on the other hand, we could prevent stales and thus enable more computing power to be used for securing the network rather than being completely wasted.
122 2012-06-18 11:16:37 <mrvision> it rejects the connection
123 2012-06-18 11:16:53 <mrvision> that's why im looking for someone who has already done it
124 2012-06-18 11:17:15 <mrvision> i'm following a tutorial step by step and it throws me an extrange error
125 2012-06-18 11:17:18 <mrvision> :S
126 2012-06-18 11:29:22 <sipa> p2k: i see
127 2012-06-18 11:30:21 <sipa> p2k: but both pruning the mempool and sending out the inv are not expensive
128 2012-06-18 11:30:44 <sipa> quite sure mempool pruning is done first, by the way
129 2012-06-18 11:32:20 <p2k> sipa: hmm, then there might be some other problem, why we get delays on blockchanges...
130 2012-06-18 11:47:21 <Graet> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88302.0
131 2012-06-18 11:47:45 <Graet> High orphan rate and long confirmation time discussion
132 2012-06-18 11:54:20 <TD> morning gavin
133 2012-06-18 11:54:31 <gavinandresen> good morning
134 2012-06-18 11:57:44 <gavinandresen> sipa here?
135 2012-06-18 11:58:01 <sipa> yes
136 2012-06-18 11:58:30 <gavinandresen> I followed the instructions in Tor.txt to run bitcoin as a hidden service, but I'm not getting connected-- getting nothing but Connection refused messages.
137 2012-06-18 11:58:37 <gavinandresen> (testing pull 1174)
138 2012-06-18 11:59:24 <sipa> where is it trying to connect to?
139 2012-06-18 11:59:31 <sipa> normal ipv4 destinations, or onion addresses?
140 2012-06-18 11:59:34 <gavinandresen> trying connection 69.165.195.172:8333 lastseen=146.9hrs
141 2012-06-18 11:59:42 <gavinandresen> (for example)
142 2012-06-18 11:59:56 <sipa> maybe your tor node hasn't been up long enough to establish connections
143 2012-06-18 12:00:15 <gavinandresen> it was running all weekend
144 2012-06-18 12:00:18 <sipa> ok
145 2012-06-18 12:00:48 <sipa> it may take longer to find a good destination node, as there's no timeout implemented in the proxy code
146 2012-06-18 12:01:27 <gavinandresen> so I should just let it run for a while?
147 2012-06-18 12:02:11 <sipa> not more than a few minutes
148 2012-06-18 12:02:13 <gavinandresen> hmm, I stopped Tor and I get the same Connection refused messages
149 2012-06-18 12:02:15 <mrvision> does anybody know how to fix this? http://www.bitcoinerr.com/abascal/prueba.php
150 2012-06-18 12:02:28 <gavinandresen> maybe Tor isn't listening on the port I think it is listening on...
151 2012-06-18 12:02:33 <mrvision> i'm trying to create a json object to conect to the bitcoind daemon
152 2012-06-18 12:03:02 <gribble> New news from bitcoinrss: fanquake opened pull request 1481 on bitcoin/bitcoin <https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/1481>
153 2012-06-18 12:03:02 <sipa> mrvision: do you send http user/pass auth?
154 2012-06-18 12:03:05 <gavinandresen> (is there any way for bitcoind to detect that the proxy isn't working and give a better error message?)
155 2012-06-18 12:03:11 <mrvision> sipa yes
156 2012-06-18 12:03:46 <mrvision> sipa i connect putting my ip and the bitcoind port in chrome
157 2012-06-18 12:03:55 <mrvision> and then i put the user and password
158 2012-06-18 12:03:58 <mrvision> it returns this
159 2012-06-18 12:04:12 <sipa> mrvision: yes, you need to send an JSON object in
160 2012-06-18 12:04:14 <Diapolo> We need a proxy-not-working detection, as an enabled proxy also crashes Qt, when proxy is not usable / reachable.
161 2012-06-18 12:04:27 <sipa> gavinandresen: hmm, actually, that wouldn't be hard
162 2012-06-18 12:04:41 <sipa> the ConnectDirectly() call to the proxy shouldn't fail
163 2012-06-18 12:05:10 <sipa> ConnectSocketDirectly()
164 2012-06-18 12:06:24 <sipa> mrvision: no idea then
165 2012-06-18 12:06:46 <mrvision> that's why if you try to cnnect to that ip
166 2012-06-18 12:06:49 <gmaxwell> mrvision: remove characters from your password that it might have a hard time with the escaping.
167 2012-06-18 12:06:59 <gmaxwell> E.g. <>&;
168 2012-06-18 12:07:14 <mrvision> password is something easy for testing like: password
169 2012-06-18 12:07:19 <mrvision> which is not :)
170 2012-06-18 12:07:22 <gmaxwell> No idea then.
171 2012-06-18 12:07:42 <mrvision> ips allowed are: *.*.*.*
172 2012-06-18 12:08:14 <mrvision> if you try to connect here: http://184.154.36.81:8771
173 2012-06-18 12:08:22 <mrvision> you will be prompted for user and pass
174 2012-06-18 12:08:33 <mrvision> so the port is open
175 2012-06-18 12:08:41 <mrvision> and listening
176 2012-06-18 12:10:22 <gavinandresen> sipa: I'm stuck, can't ACK 1174 because I can't get it to connect.  Running latest Tor browser bundle on my mac
177 2012-06-18 12:11:50 <sipa> gavinandresen: do the connections fail immediately, or does it take a while?
178 2012-06-18 12:11:54 <sipa> (a while = seconds)
179 2012-06-18 12:11:58 <gavinandresen> immediately
180 2012-06-18 12:12:10 <gavinandresen> same behavior if Tor is running or not
181 2012-06-18 12:12:15 <sipa> which command line?
182 2012-06-18 12:12:22 <sipa> or bitcoin.conf options?
183 2012-06-18 12:12:53 <gavinandresen> sipa: https://gist.github.com/2948581
184 2012-06-18 12:15:12 <sipa> i'll try myself in a minute; maybe things broke after the network option changes
185 2012-06-18 12:25:56 <TheSeven> hm, I thought "move" doesn't allow to push an account negative?
186 2012-06-18 12:26:13 <sipa> it does allow that since 0.3.22 or so
187 2012-06-18 12:26:27 <sipa> since there are other ways to get it negative anyway
188 2012-06-18 12:26:34 <TheSeven> someone should update the docs then...
189 2012-06-18 12:26:59 <sipa> where?
190 2012-06-18 12:27:16 <TheSeven> "Moves from the default account to any other account always succeed; moves from any other account will fail if the account has insufficient funds."
191 2012-06-18 12:27:19 <TheSeven> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Accounts_explained
192 2012-06-18 12:27:26 <sipa> gavinandresen: works perfectly here
193 2012-06-18 12:27:50 <gavinandresen> how should I debug?  How do I tell if Tor is listening on 9050 ?
194 2012-06-18 12:27:58 <sipa> netstat -ltnp ?
195 2012-06-18 12:28:06 <sipa> (or osx equivalent)
196 2012-06-18 12:28:36 <sipa> maybe that tor bundle doesn't install a socks proxy by default?
197 2012-06-18 12:28:44 <gavinandresen> Maybe not
198 2012-06-18 12:29:48 <gavinandresen> sigh. I have no idea what netstat -ltnp is on OSX (I keep telling people I don't know nuthin about networking....)
199 2012-06-18 12:30:37 <sipa> netcat 127.0.0.1 9050
200 2012-06-18 12:30:41 <guruvan> probably should install tor and polipo as startup daemons & not use the bundle   (also netstat -an | grep "9050")
201 2012-06-18 12:30:42 <sipa> maybe?
202 2012-06-18 12:31:17 <gavinandresen> netstat -an | grep 9050 gets nothing
203 2012-06-18 12:31:30 <sipa> $ netstat -an | fgrep 9050
204 2012-06-18 12:31:33 <sipa> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:9050          127.0.0.1:35409         TIME_WAIT
205 2012-06-18 12:32:09 <gavinandresen> re: install tor and polipo as startup bundles:  ummm, if I can't figure it out from the doc/Tor.txt file then very, very few people will be able to figure it out
206 2012-06-18 12:32:36 <sipa> I welcome improvements with OS-specific help :)
207 2012-06-18 12:32:49 <sipa> but for me it's apt-get install tor, and follow the config file
208 2012-06-18 12:32:55 <sipa> *doc
209 2012-06-18 12:34:20 <gavinandresen> "it works on linux" isn't good enough to accept a pull request, in my humble opinon.
210 2012-06-18 12:35:24 <sipa> well, that file contains enough information assuming your tor proxy works
211 2012-06-18 12:36:08 <sipa> it can't reasonably replicate the documentation on how to get tor running in the first place (though some pointers or hints are good)
212 2012-06-18 12:36:20 <sipa> https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#TBBSocksPort
213 2012-06-18 12:36:31 <sipa> seems that some setups use a random proxy port
214 2012-06-18 12:36:56 <gavinandresen> ah, that'd do it
215 2012-06-18 12:37:41 <gavinandresen> I'll give that a try when I have a minute, I moved on to testing the signbugs pull request
216 2012-06-18 12:38:07 <sipa> great
217 2012-06-18 12:39:26 <p2k> gavinandresen: "netstat -ltnp" is "netstat -lnp tcp" on os x and it won't show processes like in the gnu version
218 2012-06-18 12:39:40 <gavinandresen> p2k: thanks
219 2012-06-18 12:42:39 <p2k> and if you really need to know the process, try "lsof -i :1234"
220 2012-06-18 12:57:04 <MysteryBanshee> sipa: how long does it take to brute for 8 characters of a bitcoin private key at 1 Tkey/s ?
221 2012-06-18 12:57:14 <MysteryBanshee> for=force
222 2012-06-18 12:57:17 <sipa> what is 8 characters? 8 bytes?
223 2012-06-18 12:57:30 <sipa> or 8 base58 encoded characters?
224 2012-06-18 12:57:47 <MysteryBanshee> yeh
225 2012-06-18 12:57:51 <drizztbsd> yes what =.=
226 2012-06-18 12:57:51 <sipa> which one?
227 2012-06-18 12:57:54 <MysteryBanshee> 8 base58 encoded characters
228 2012-06-18 12:58:14 <sipa> MysteryBanshee: 2 minutes
229 2012-06-18 12:58:42 <MysteryBanshee> sipa: seriously?
230 2012-06-18 12:58:48 <upb> 58^8 / (10^12)
231 2012-06-18 12:58:52 <upb> seconds
232 2012-06-18 12:58:59 <drizztbsd> ;;bc,calc 58^8 / (10^12)
233 2012-06-18 12:59:00 <gribble> Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
234 2012-06-18 12:59:02 <gribble> Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
235 2012-06-18 12:59:02 <sipa> ;;calc 58^8 / (10^12)
236 2012-06-18 12:59:03 <MysteryBanshee> sipa: how many base58 characters do I need for it to take at least a week?
237 2012-06-18 12:59:07 <drizztbsd> fuck gribble
238 2012-06-18 12:59:27 <drizztbsd> MysteryBanshee: lol?
239 2012-06-18 12:59:31 <sipa> MysteryBanshee: 10
240 2012-06-18 12:59:48 <sipa> may i ask what for?
241 2012-06-18 13:00:25 <sipa> please don't go below 128 bits of secret if you're trying to come up with a fancy shorter encoding
242 2012-06-18 13:00:48 <sipa> which is 21 base58 characters
243 2012-06-18 13:00:52 <drizztbsd> 128 over 256?
244 2012-06-18 13:01:33 <sipa> ECDSA/secp256k1 only has 128 bits of security anyway
245 2012-06-18 13:03:38 <MysteryBanshee> sipa: its for a game that I am running
246 2012-06-18 13:03:45 <MysteryBanshee> I dont want people to be able to brute for parts of a private key
247 2012-06-18 13:03:54 <MysteryBanshee> 10 - thx sipa
248 2012-06-18 13:04:29 <MysteryBanshee> for=force lol
249 2012-06-18 13:05:15 <Diapolo> luke-jr: online?
250 2012-06-18 13:05:34 <luke-jr> Diapolo: ?
251 2012-06-18 13:07:47 <Diapolo> luke-jr: hi there ... I was working on the GUI part of coin control you said I need to "git push" like I normally do ... this would be a git push origin coincontrol ... I'm not sure.
252 2012-06-18 13:39:50 <Diapolo> luke-jr: I sent a pull-request to luke-jr/coincontrol, take a look, I'll be online later again.
253 2012-06-18 13:55:18 <MysteryBanshee> Im having problems with blockchain.info (again)
254 2012-06-18 13:55:20 <MysteryBanshee> anyone else ?
255 2012-06-18 13:55:28 <MysteryBanshee> Everytime I try to send money it crashes my browser
256 2012-06-18 13:55:52 <TD> that sounds like a problem with your browser rather than blockchain.info
257 2012-06-18 13:56:00 <MysteryBanshee> with both firefox and ie?
258 2012-06-18 13:56:31 <sipa> define "crashes my browser" ?
259 2012-06-18 13:56:38 <MysteryBanshee> well causes some kind of error message
260 2012-06-18 13:56:42 <MysteryBanshee> relating to some javascript
261 2012-06-18 13:56:43 <justmoon> sending money means it'll generate a transaction - that's the heftiest job it does, it has to generate a signature
262 2012-06-18 13:56:46 <justmoon> was it working before?
263 2012-06-18 13:56:50 <MysteryBanshee> yes
264 2012-06-18 13:57:03 <justmoon> then I assume ben messed with the javascript
265 2012-06-18 13:57:15 <justmoon> possibly try and close other programs
266 2012-06-18 13:57:15 <sipa> that's hardly a crash, and it does sound like a problem with blockchain.info indeed
267 2012-06-18 13:57:23 <justmoon> maybe it's just timing out
268 2012-06-18 13:57:24 <yellowhat> i'd try ctrl-f5 and try again :)
269 2012-06-18 13:58:01 <MysteryBanshee> tried yello