1 2013-04-13 00:03:12 <EvilPete> Luke-Jr: just so I'm clear.. they're running the compiler backend on the gpu itself?
2 2013-04-13 00:04:46 <Diablo-D3> EvilPete: no
3 2013-04-13 00:04:57 <Diablo-D3> EvilPete: its a compiler backend that supports r600 as a target
4 2013-04-13 00:05:06 <Diablo-D3> as in, I can compile for x86, and I can compile for r600
5 2013-04-13 00:05:43 <diki> how would you run it on the gpu?
6 2013-04-13 00:10:17 <gruez> Is there a guide on how to cross-compile on a linux machine?
7 2013-04-13 00:10:36 <gruez> there are instructions for building on linux (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/readme-qt.rst), but what steps are needed for cross compile?
8 2013-04-13 00:11:33 <gruez> I've been trying to build on a windows box and pretty much given up
9 2013-04-13 00:12:42 <Luke-Jr> EvilPete: correct, nevermind Diablo-D3
10 2013-04-13 00:13:11 <Diablo-D3> ACTION just laughs at luke
11 2013-04-13 00:13:18 <Luke-Jr> gruez: https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder/
12 2013-04-13 00:14:57 <gruez> Luke-Jr: using the gitan scripts included with bitcoin will build windows binaries as well, correct?
13 2013-04-13 00:16:03 <Luke-Jr> gruez: yes
14 2013-04-13 00:26:11 <gruez> Luke-Jr: im guessing you install gitan inside your own VM?
15 2013-04-13 00:26:29 <Luke-Jr> gruez: no?
16 2013-04-13 00:26:42 <gruez> Luke-Jr: is it a VM image?
17 2013-04-13 00:26:58 <Luke-Jr> gruez: no, follow the instructions
18 2013-04-13 00:28:00 <gruez> Luke-Jr: gitan only works for virtualbox, and the gitan tools only work for linux?
19 2013-04-13 00:28:20 <Luke-Jr> no, and yes
20 2013-04-13 00:28:42 <gruez> building bitcoin is hard :(
21 2013-04-13 00:30:06 <Luke-Jr> I don't agree.
22 2013-04-13 00:30:31 <gruez> Luke-Jr: how about "building bitcoin on windows is hard"
23 2013-04-13 00:30:59 <Luke-Jr> building anything on windows is hard
24 2013-04-13 00:31:35 <gruez> Luke-Jr: is that for linux ports, or in general?
25 2013-04-13 00:31:44 <Luke-Jr> gruez: hmm?
26 2013-04-13 00:31:50 <gruez> open solution in visual studio and clicking build is pretty easy
27 2013-04-13 00:32:14 <Luke-Jr> ok, so do that if it's that simple
28 2013-04-13 00:32:43 <gruez> the vs makefile is broken
29 2013-04-13 00:32:52 <Luke-Jr> oh, Visual Studio doesn't support standard Makefiles? it doesn't have a standard way to handle dependencies?
30 2013-04-13 00:32:56 <Luke-Jr> I guess that proves my point
31 2013-04-13 00:33:03 <gruez> well, it's all done internally
32 2013-04-13 00:33:14 <gruez> through the .sln file
33 2013-04-13 00:33:57 <Luke-Jr> gruez: some non-standard format nobody wants to work with..
34 2013-04-13 00:33:59 <schmoe> so guys is there a problem with the blockchain? i just read that an NDB-Cluster is broken!?
35 2013-04-13 00:34:22 <kadoban> schmoe: blockchain.info is just some random site, not required for bitcoin
36 2013-04-13 00:34:49 <schmoe> oh ok thank you for this info
37 2013-04-13 00:35:15 <gruez> Luke-Jr: I guess it goes against open source ideals?
38 2013-04-13 00:35:56 <Luke-Jr> gruez: the practical reality is, very few programmers want to touch/use Windows any more than necessary, and cross-compiling it from our native Linux environment is far easier
39 2013-04-13 00:36:11 <Luke-Jr> also, Windows has no way at all to prove the binaries came from the source code
40 2013-04-13 00:36:25 <Luke-Jr> so there could be trojans embedded in someone's MSVC builds and no way to find out
41 2013-04-13 00:36:29 <gruez> fair point
42 2013-04-13 00:36:43 <Luke-Jr> using a controlled Linux build system allows multiple people to produce the exact same binaries
43 2013-04-13 00:37:36 <gruez> Luke-Jr: there used to be precompiled depenencies available for windows builds
44 2013-04-13 00:37:44 <gruez> but that was removed a few commits ago
45 2013-04-13 00:37:48 <gruez> is there a reason why?
46 2013-04-13 00:38:06 <Luke-Jr> I don't recall anything like that
47 2013-04-13 00:38:39 <Luke-Jr> as far as I know, only 1 developer uses Windows at all, and he doesn't seem to care maintaining build instructions for it
48 2013-04-13 00:38:41 <gruez> Luke-Jr: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/4e70db2a038a5723859f4fbba4020249f92bb770#doc/readme-qt.rst
49 2013-04-13 00:39:01 <Luke-Jr> gruez: probably because they didn't work
50 2013-04-13 00:39:11 <gruez> I could copy the depedencies, paste it and click build in qt
51 2013-04-13 00:39:26 <gruez> and it would work, but it was a long time ago
52 2013-04-13 00:45:16 <davis> is there a way to tell if bitcoin is using the gpu?
53 2013-04-13 00:45:29 <gruez> davis: as in?
54 2013-04-13 00:45:31 <gruez> for mining?
55 2013-04-13 00:45:58 <copumpkin> omg my donation to Luke-Jr for mac builds is worth a lot more than it was when I made it!
56 2013-04-13 01:01:36 <Luke-Jr> copumpkin: want it back, since I didn't succeed [yet]? :/
57 2013-04-13 01:04:00 <copumpkin> it's fine, just funny to think of it in current terms :) if you don't want it, I'll take it though!
58 2013-04-13 01:05:44 <Luke-Jr> copumpkin: I do! XD
59 2013-04-13 01:05:53 <Luke-Jr> one of these days I'll hopefully finish that project
60 2013-04-13 01:06:39 <Luke-Jr> copumpkin: are you going to BC Conf 2013?
61 2013-04-13 01:07:42 <copumpkin> hmm, maybe! where/when/who?
62 2013-04-13 01:08:08 <Luke-Jr> http://www.bitcoin2013.com/
63 2013-04-13 01:08:45 <copumpkin> ah, probably not then :/ can't make those dates
64 2013-04-13 01:10:14 <HM2> http://s14.postimg.org/7m2hyio8t/be_usb1.jpg?noCache=1365780610
65 2013-04-13 01:10:20 <HM2> lol, is this for real. it's adorable?
66 2013-04-13 01:11:55 <Cryptrader> Could be
67 2013-04-13 01:12:08 <Cryptrader> Real money to be made designing asics right now...
68 2013-04-13 01:12:18 <Cryptrader> if you can actually ship them before BFL
69 2013-04-13 01:12:57 <HM2> I marvel at hardware people sometimes
70 2013-04-13 01:13:10 <HM2> i want one in my electric toothbrush
71 2013-04-13 01:31:06 <muhoo> hmm, hackathon?
72 2013-04-13 01:31:36 <muhoo> what't the admission fee for this conference?
73 2013-04-13 01:31:43 <muhoo> website doesn't seem to say
74 2013-04-13 01:32:09 <jspilman> 300
75 2013-04-13 01:32:29 <muhoo> USD or BTC?
76 2013-04-13 01:32:31 <jspilman> lol
77 2013-04-13 01:32:33 <jspilman> USD
78 2013-04-13 01:32:46 <owowo> onr BTC
79 2013-04-13 01:32:47 <muhoo> well.. i'm kind of surprised the conference isn't in BTC :-P
80 2013-04-13 01:32:49 <owowo> one
81 2013-04-13 01:33:23 <muhoo> i dunno, if some of y'all will be there, it'd be good to come and say hello. not sure if i can spend USD$300 on it tho
82 2013-04-13 01:34:15 <jspilman> they had a BTC price up, but it looked like it was hard coded not dynamic based on exchange rate, so they may have taken it down
83 2013-04-13 01:35:50 <muhoo> i'll let that sentence just hang there in the air for a moment.
84 2013-04-13 01:35:56 <gonffen> that price is still there? it says 3.4BTC
85 2013-04-13 01:36:15 <muhoo> oh, i see, i have javascript off
86 2013-04-13 01:36:34 <muhoo> yep, 3.4BTC
87 2013-04-13 01:38:36 <muhoo> i'll wait to see what the schedule looks like. if it's all politcs and VC's, i can't justify spending the money. if it's a developer conference, i could see it being worthwhile.
88 2013-04-13 01:38:45 <Luke-Jr> muhoo: just the flight is probably at least $300 USD :/
89 2013-04-13 01:38:58 <muhoo> Luke-Jr: the gas is $20 :-)
90 2013-04-13 01:39:03 <Luke-Jr> aha
91 2013-04-13 01:39:18 <digitalmagus> you going Luke-Jr ?
92 2013-04-13 01:39:22 <muhoo> ACTION in san francisco
93 2013-04-13 01:39:40 <Luke-Jr> digitalmagus: probably only if I can find a sponsor
94 2013-04-13 01:39:50 <digitalmagus> I see
95 2013-04-13 01:39:50 <muhoo> Luke-Jr: where are you coming from?
96 2013-04-13 01:39:54 <Luke-Jr> muhoo: Lindsay sent out an email offering free admission if you work half a day :P
97 2013-04-13 01:39:58 <Luke-Jr> muhoo: Florida
98 2013-04-13 01:40:04 <muhoo> work half a day? on what?
99 2013-04-13 01:40:10 <muhoo> i don't know who linday is
100 2013-04-13 01:40:39 <Luke-Jr> muhoo: registration, manning the Foundation booth, and a few other things
101 2013-04-13 01:40:46 <Luke-Jr> Lindsay works for the Foundation
102 2013-04-13 01:40:51 <muhoo> cool, thanks
103 2013-04-13 01:41:07 <Luke-Jr> you might have to be a member to be eligible though, not sure
104 2013-04-13 01:41:21 <muhoo> well, hell, that's not too bad. half a day's booth duty for free admission seems a fair trade.
105 2013-04-13 01:41:52 <Luke-Jr> muhoo: sure, it's also limited in number ofc
106 2013-04-13 01:42:19 <digitalmagus> muhoo: I don't think Luke-Jr is pretty enough to volunteer though: http://joyridesimulators.com/uploads/images/nvidia_girls_680.png
107 2013-04-13 01:42:41 <Luke-Jr> muhoo: lindsay@bitcoinfoundation.org
108 2013-04-13 01:42:49 <Luke-Jr> digitalmagus: err, is nvidia going to have a booth? that'd be lol
109 2013-04-13 01:42:51 <muhoo> oh gawd, if it's goign to be that kind of trade show, i don't want to go
110 2013-04-13 01:43:05 <digitalmagus> Luke-Jr: it was the fastest thing I could google :P
111 2013-04-13 01:43:25 <hsmiths> i don't know. that is all it printed in #bitcoin-RT. what does the x195 mean?
112 2013-04-13 01:43:27 <muhoo> booth bimbos and marketing crap, not interested.
113 2013-04-13 01:43:59 <digitalmagus> C'mon, nothing wrong with booth bimbos... I'm betting BFL would really benefit from some :P
114 2013-04-13 01:44:36 <Luke-Jr> pretty sure BFL will be there