1 2013-11-18 00:01:23 <fanquake> warren Which dependancy versions is the binary built against? The current bitcoin ones with Boost 1.54.0?
 2 2013-11-18 00:01:40 <warren> fanquake: identical to 0.8.5 deps
 3 2013-11-18 00:21:48 <warren> anyone have links to mac corruption bug reports?
 4 2013-11-18 00:21:51 <warren> I want to link to all of them
 5 2013-11-18 00:21:57 <midnightmagic> Whoah, coin control was merged?  Outside of the raw* stuff?
 6 2013-11-18 00:24:11 <sipa> how do you mean?
 7 2013-11-18 00:24:45 <warren> midnightmagic: GUI coin control
 8 2013-11-18 00:24:51 <gmaxwell> midnightmagic: yes, the CC GUI stuf was merged.
 9 2013-11-18 00:29:48 <midnightmagic> oh
10 2013-11-18 00:30:10 <midnightmagic> so command-line is still manual raw/groupings/unspent/etc
11 2013-11-18 00:37:36 <dparrish> does anyone know if it's possible to get a wallet.dat from 2010 and still use the keys today? I found a machine that died a few years ago, which would have a pile of early btc (back when they were worth nothing)
12 2013-11-18 00:37:45 <sipa> yes
13 2013-11-18 00:37:55 <sipa> we've never broken backward compatibility, afaik
14 2013-11-18 00:38:12 <dparrish> awesome! then it's time to spend the next couple of weeks manually rebuilding a raid-5 array by hand :)
15 2013-11-18 00:40:47 <edcba> i migrated some 2011 wallet this year and it went ok
16 2013-11-18 00:40:48 <Emcy> will a 0.3.24 wallet run in a 0.8 client?
17 2013-11-18 00:41:04 <Emcy> it will do the convert thing but work right
18 2013-11-18 00:41:19 <sipa> nothing to convert, it should just work
19 2013-11-18 00:41:20 <edcba> anyway step 1 is backup
20 2013-11-18 00:43:44 <Emcy> guy in #bitcoin has apparently been served bitcoin 3.24 from ubuntus repos
21 2013-11-18 00:43:59 <Emcy> in 12.04 if it matters
22 2013-11-18 00:44:07 <sipa> 0.3.24; unfortunately, that's what's in their repos
23 2013-11-18 00:44:08 <Emcy> he might have lost 0.8btc to it
24 2013-11-18 00:44:14 <sipa> why lost?
25 2013-11-18 00:44:26 <Emcy> well, if he screws it up i suppose
26 2013-11-18 00:44:53 <sipa> just backup the wallet immediately, upgrade, and see what happens
27 2013-11-18 00:44:55 <Emcy> what the hell ubuntu......
28 2013-11-18 00:45:08 <sipa> no reason why you'd lose anything
29 2013-11-18 00:45:25 <Emcy> ok, but getting a bitcoin that old is bad enough
30 2013-11-18 00:45:31 <sipa> yes, very bad
31 2013-11-18 00:45:36 <sipa> but nothing we can do about it
32 2013-11-18 00:45:37 <dparrish> it is?
33 2013-11-18 00:45:44 <edcba> why bad ?
34 2013-11-18 00:45:48 <Emcy> can they not be politely contacted
35 2013-11-18 00:46:03 <edcba> oh a bitcoin client...
36 2013-11-18 00:46:13 <edcba> i thought 1 old BTC is bad :)
37 2013-11-18 00:46:16 <sipa> it's broken, insecure, slow, and not supported on the network anymore
38 2013-11-18 00:46:18 <sipa> ah
39 2013-11-18 00:46:34 <sipa> Emcy: afaik they have been
40 2013-11-18 00:46:49 <edcba> maybe again ?
41 2013-11-18 01:02:24 <imton> guys, someone with experience in bitcoin-abe? someone know alternatives?
42 2013-11-18 01:04:43 <danneu> imton: What do you want to do?
43 2013-11-18 01:05:24 <imton> danneu: I want to be able to ask for address transactions
44 2013-11-18 01:26:18 <warren> So we can't trust NTP.  Are there any low cost atomic clock solutions for your own server?
45 2013-11-18 01:26:24 <warren> (not radio receivers)
46 2013-11-18 01:27:56 <gmaxwell> warren: what for?
47 2013-11-18 01:28:17 <warren> gmaxwell: keep time without trusting a network
48 2013-11-18 01:28:19 <Ryan52> warren: Hey, I know you from LTSP a very long time ago, don't I? This channel is just full of people I used to know, so many good memories coming back to me!
49 2013-11-18 01:28:34 <warren> Ryan52: wow, thought your named looked familiar.  what are you up to these days?
50 2013-11-18 01:29:22 <Ryan52> warren: same old, same old, unfortunately. in university now though, so that's cool. what about you?
51 2013-11-18 01:29:58 <warren> Ryan52: I break things.
52 2013-11-18 01:30:47 <Ryan52> warren: heh, how so? that sounds fun!
53 2013-11-18 01:32:14 <justusranvier> When does Bitcoin-Qt choose to extend its keypool? Is it when the last address is exhausted or when the number of unused addresses falls to some threshold?
54 2013-11-18 01:33:47 <gmaxwell> why am I answering this in multiple channels.
55 2013-11-18 01:34:01 <gmaxwell> justusranvier: it's extended _every time_ a key is used.
56 2013-11-18 01:34:16 <gmaxwell> Which is the simplest behavior to achieve the goal.
57 2013-11-18 01:34:37 <justusranvier> ok
58 2013-11-18 01:35:14 <edcba> warren: gps is included in (not radio receivers) ?
59 2013-11-18 01:35:59 <warren> edcba: I'd love to see GPS without a radio receiver.
60 2013-11-18 01:36:08 <edcba> :)
61 2013-11-18 01:36:22 <edcba> ok just to be sure what you meant by radio receivers
62 2013-11-18 01:37:38 <edcba> http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-05/smallest-atomic-clock-ever-now-sale ?
63 2013-11-18 01:37:55 <edcba> also some DIY solutions...
64 2013-11-18 01:39:33 <gmaxwell> you can go buy rb oscilators on ebay all day long, if you care. though oxco have good stability and could probably be conditioned by the bitcoin network.
65 2013-11-18 01:46:54 <fanquake> So apparently blockchain.info has implemented coinjoin. Anyone used it yet?
66 2013-11-18 01:48:32 <Ferroh> A poor man's version of coinjoin though
67 2013-11-18 01:48:59 <Emcy> howso
68 2013-11-18 01:49:26 <Ferroh> In the way that only BCI users can use it
69 2013-11-18 01:49:29 <Ferroh> so to use it you must use an online wallet.
70 2013-11-18 01:49:45 <Ferroh> A "real" CoinJoin would be distributed
71 2013-11-18 01:51:56 <Emcy> oh, yes
72 2013-11-18 01:54:25 <CodeShark> justusranvier: check out https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2841
73 2013-11-18 02:11:30 <maaku> without forking changes, coinjoin will always require online wallets
74 2013-11-18 02:21:18 <warren> hmm... bitaddress.org has GPG signed changelog, but git commits are not GPG signed