1 2014-05-16 00:30:05 <Luke-Jr> way to go Gentoo, wtf is ncurses built only non-threadsafe?
 2 2014-05-16 00:32:51 <kdomanski> :/
 3 2014-05-16 01:15:53 <warren> michagogo|cloud: I didn't change the REVISION to r1 because 1) it doesn't matter 2) this isn't hte first time it was 5.2.1
 4 2014-05-16 01:16:34 <warren> michagogo|cloud: need to know if hashes of the windows and mac builds are identical to other people.  They are to me.
 5 2014-05-16 01:45:24 <saizai> are any of you @ Bitcoin 2014?
 6 2014-05-16 01:48:03 <A> an|For building bitcoin-qt, which version of qt is recommended: 4 or 5?
 7 2014-05-16 06:10:43 <fun> who here can point me to some POS howto? esp security holes?
 8 2014-05-16 06:13:20 <michagogo> cloud|Nice -- Coinbase does PP now
 9 2014-05-16 06:30:43 <fun> PP?
10 2014-05-16 06:30:57 <fun> peercoin? michagogo|cloud ?
11 2014-05-16 06:31:10 <fun> paypal?
12 2014-05-16 06:31:46 <gmaxwell> payment protocol.
13 2014-05-16 06:32:06 <fun> oki ty
14 2014-05-16 06:32:11 <gmaxwell> (also, you didn't get an answer to your prior question because altcoins are offtopic)
15 2014-05-16 06:37:48 <fun> gmaxwell: thing it this seems to be the only channel where many people know crypto currencies inside out, maybe there is some good place to ask?
16 2014-05-16 06:38:05 <fun> oki I can ask on forum
17 2014-05-16 07:19:24 <QuantumQrack> .
18 2014-05-16 07:53:12 <dcousens> hey all
19 2014-05-16 07:54:35 <dcousens> why doesn't CECKey::Sign() use the i2d_ECDSA_sig to get the signature size? Instead it seems to be using the maximum possible size then shrinking to fit? An optimization maybe?
20 2014-05-16 07:55:00 <dcousens> (ref: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/72f754cf51d09ea9c3daec398da7a8ca7fce8d6e/src/key.cpp#L220-L224)
21 2014-05-16 08:02:55 <sipa> dcousens: yes, optimization
22 2014-05-16 08:06:19 <dcousens> sipa: ta
23 2014-05-16 08:13:25 <Luke-Jr> any suggestions on a solution for #bitcoin-watch ? (the transaction volume is too much for freenode's rate limit..)
24 2014-05-16 08:20:14 <arubi> if it's too much for a single bot, maybe multiple bots can share the work. if it's the channel's rate limit, then I don't know
25 2014-05-16 08:20:15 <arubi> for example, bot 4 out of 16 will only post transactions ending at 4
26 2014-05-16 08:27:30 <arubi> oh, it's a trading watch. my example wasn't good but you understand the idea
27 2014-05-16 08:43:36 <Luke-Jr> arubi: it's supposed to do network txs too, but I disabled it due to the problem
28 2014-05-16 08:46:08 <arubi> is it actually a problem with the channel's rate limit, or a the bot's?
29 2014-05-16 08:46:45 <arubi> s/a//
30 2014-05-16 08:51:35 <Luke-Jr> arubi: freenode's
31 2014-05-16 09:03:16 <arubi> can't think of anything else if it's a global limit
32 2014-05-16 09:03:16 <arubi> Luke-Jr, ah. well, maybe the staff can set some special permissions on #bitcoin-watch , like on #flood ..
33 2014-05-16 09:05:24 <Luke-Jr> arubi: it's a TCP buffer limit ;)
34 2014-05-16 09:05:36 <Luke-Jr> so per-connection
35 2014-05-16 09:12:29 <arubi> too low level for me :)
36 2014-05-16 09:21:52 <Luke-Jr> 
ACTION ponders if DNS seeds should take turns being down randomly.

37 2014-05-16 15:06:41 <helo> kind of odd... tesnet peer 162.242.154.199 seems to be running "subver" : "Dain 0.0.1", and not serving any blocks to me
38 2014-05-16 15:08:03 <helo> related to yubico bitcoin
39 2014-05-16 15:08:19 <helo> seems odd my client would pick such an odd version to be my syncnode
40 2014-05-16 15:11:20 <helo> nevermind, i guess it just took a few minutes to start handing blocks over
41 2014-05-16 15:16:05 <KuDeTa> Someone put a virus sig in the blockchain? Lol
42 2014-05-16 15:18:27 <KuDeTa> Oh, maybe just a false positive
43 2014-05-16 15:22:19 <helo> i doubt it, wouldn't be the first time
44 2014-05-16 16:14:45 <andytoshi> there was talk about a 'buildrawtransaction' RPC or something like that which creates raw txes with automatic coin selection
45 2014-05-16 16:14:50 <andytoshi> what are the feelings about a UI for this?
46 2014-05-16 16:15:19 <andytoshi> my first thought was, add a flag to sendtoaddress which makes it output a rawtx..but that has a horrible typo failure mode
47 2014-05-16 16:15:26 <chichov> where can I find an interface to send JSON-RPC's to a bitcoin daemon running in server mode?
48 2014-05-16 16:16:11 <chichov> if anything like that exists at all?
49 2014-05-16 16:16:44 <chichov> more specifically, I'm planning to build my own piece of software that can communicate with the bitcoin daemon. For example it should be capable of passing a raw transaction to it
50 2014-05-16 16:17:21 <chichov> among other things.
51 2014-05-16 16:18:08 <andytoshi> chichov: … json-rpc -is- an interface
52 2014-05-16 16:18:59 <chichov> maybe I should rephrase myself
53 2014-05-16 16:20:51 <chichov> andytoshi: I only see an interface in rpcclient.cpp where you can pass a whole command
54 2014-05-16 16:21:27 <andytoshi> chichov: it's a standard json-rpc interface, you connect over HTTP on port 8332 or whatever and then follow the json-rpc spec
55 2014-05-16 16:21:29 <andytoshi> you can do it with telnet
56 2014-05-16 16:21:56 <chichov> and where can I find the set of methods that I can use?
57 2014-05-16 16:22:19 <andytoshi> chichov: with the 'help' rpc
58 2014-05-16 16:22:44 <chichov> take a step back. where in the code can I find it?
59 2014-05-16 16:38:14 <dhill> hmmm
60 2014-05-16 17:45:37 <lechuga_> hmm
61 2014-05-16 17:45:44 <lechuga_> is there any other site like fetchtx.info
62 2014-05-16 17:46:28 <lechuga_> where you can input raw txns in hex and get a nice annotated view of the fields
63 2014-05-16 17:46:49 <andytoshi> do you have a bitcoind?
64 2014-05-16 17:46:54 <andytoshi> the 'decoderawtransaction' API does this
65 2014-05-16 17:47:09 <lechuga_> but that will put it in json right
66 2014-05-16 17:47:18 <andytoshi> yeah
67 2014-05-16 17:47:24 <lechuga_> i liked the UI of fetchtx.info
68 2014-05-16 17:47:33 <lechuga_> where it showed you the hex side by side
69 2014-05-16 17:47:37 <andytoshi> oh, hmm
70 2014-05-16 17:47:52 <lechuga_> it was pretty useful
71 2014-05-16 17:48:06 <lechuga_> i should've donated :/
72 2014-05-16 17:50:08 <andytoshi> perhaps. too bad they didn't open-source it..
73 2014-05-16 18:01:34 <lechuga_> yeah it was a nice simple tool
74 2014-05-16 21:07:52 <CoinHeavy> is there a best practice for deriving total available coin supply from the blockchain?
75 2014-05-16 21:07:57 <CoinHeavy> (extant coins)
76 2014-05-16 21:15:35 <accelerate> CoinHeavy: it's just number of blocks * block reward, unless you meant something else
77 2014-05-16 21:16:02 <warren> michagogo: around?
78 2014-05-16 21:23:03 <Happzz> there should be an option to cancel unbroadcasted txs
79 2014-05-16 21:24:42 <gmaxwell> Happzz: there aren't really any (known) unbroadcasted txs.
80 2014-05-16 21:31:31 <Happzz> gmaxwell i've one that didn't broadcast/spread to blockchain.info for like 20 mins already
81 2014-05-16 21:32:04 <Happzz> if you have some workaround to make it spread faster
82 2014-05-16 21:32:08 <Happzz> i'd love to hear about it