1 2014-08-08 00:02:11 <ahmed_> cfields: thanks anyway :)
2 2014-08-08 00:02:22 <cfields> ahmed_: np, sorry :\
3 2014-08-08 00:20:50 <CodeShark> is it just me or does bitcoind sometimes add more leaf nodes to the filtered block than necessary?
4 2014-08-08 00:21:16 <CodeShark> I'm receiving filtered blocks that indicate certain transactions should be sent - but then the transactions don't get sent after the filtered block is sent
5 2014-08-08 00:30:01 <Luke-Jr> ahmed_: are you using the latest Linux kernel?
6 2014-08-08 00:30:21 <ahmed_> Luke-Jr: unsure
7 2014-08-08 00:31:03 <ahmed_> im on debian jessie
8 2014-08-08 00:31:39 <ahmed_> durp
9 2014-08-08 00:31:42 <ahmed_> DISTRIB_CODENAME=trusty
10 2014-08-08 00:31:42 <ahmed_> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS"
11 2014-08-08 00:31:42 <ahmed_> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
12 2014-08-08 00:31:42 <ahmed_> DISTRIB_RELEASE=14.04
13 2014-08-08 00:32:15 <ahmed_> Linux version 3.13.0-24-generic (buildd@panlong) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) ) #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014
14 2014-08-08 00:32:15 <ahmed_> Luke-Jr: cat /proc/version
15 2014-08-08 00:32:42 <Luke-Jr> ahmed_: odd; maybe try KVM then
16 2014-08-08 00:33:24 <ahmed_> Luke-Jr: how?
17 2014-08-08 00:33:32 <Luke-Jr> ACTION shrugs
18 2014-08-08 00:33:36 <Luke-Jr> README?
19 2014-08-08 00:33:47 <ahmed_> Luke-Jr: isnt the readme for LXC?
20 2014-08-08 00:33:58 <Luke-Jr> doubt it
21 2014-08-08 00:34:02 <Luke-Jr> KVM support was first
22 2014-08-08 00:34:50 <ahmed_> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/gitian-building.md
23 2014-08-08 00:35:19 <ahmed_> ^ notice how their it asks you to install LXC and configure it with USE_LXC enviroment variable
24 2014-08-08 00:58:03 <Luke-Jr> ahmed_: try the gitian README, not bitcoin's
25 2014-08-08 00:58:12 <ahmed_> ahh okay
26 2014-08-08 05:07:36 <sipa> CodeShark: a leaf node does not imply a matching transaction
27 2014-08-08 05:12:29 <dsnrk> sipa: you're aware #4655 doesn't build, yes?
28 2014-08-08 05:20:48 <sipa> dsnrk: yes
29 2014-08-08 05:22:08 <dsnrk> sweet.
30 2014-08-08 07:27:43 <michagogo> 23:53:24 <gmaxwell> (note: in this auction you pay even if you lose) <-- isn't the key there not "pay if you lose", but rather "second highest bidder pays and gets nothing"?
31 2014-08-08 07:29:18 <michagogo> cfields: pong
32 2014-08-08 07:29:44 <gmaxwell> michagogo: normally a dollar auction is described as an all pay, but it would work if the second bidder pays too.
33 2014-08-08 07:29:50 <omefire> Hi all,
34 2014-08-08 07:30:07 <michagogo> The one I read about was a $20 bill with second bidder pays
35 2014-08-08 07:30:20 <michagogo> apparently it got up to $200ish once
36 2014-08-08 07:30:21 <omefire> I'm trying to understand the scripting system of bitcoin.
37 2014-08-08 07:30:26 <michagogo> Don't remember which book it was in
38 2014-08-08 07:31:15 <michagogo> omefire: what have you read and seen so far? Any specific questions?
39 2014-08-08 07:31:38 <omefire> I thought that upon receiving transactions from peers, a bitcoin node would verify whether the transaction was valid by executing the transaction script.
40 2014-08-08 07:31:55 <michagogo> That's one of the validity checks, yes
41 2014-08-08 07:31:59 <omefire> .. but I don't see that anywhere in the code. or at least, I'm a bit confused.
42 2014-08-08 07:32:36 <omefire> michagogo: I've looked into main::ProcessMessages method, I don't see that logic.
43 2014-08-08 07:32:38 <michagogo> Did you look at script.cpp?
44 2014-08-08 07:34:41 <michagogo> I'm thinking you probably want bool EvalScript
45 2014-08-08 07:34:50 <michagogo> It's a big one, but it starts on line 303
46 2014-08-08 07:35:09 <michagogo> I would suggest looking elsewhere in the code to figure out what calls EvanScript
47 2014-08-08 07:35:14 <michagogo> EvalScript*
48 2014-08-08 07:43:01 <attilah> Hi
49 2014-08-08 07:44:46 <omefire> michagogo: Yep, I did think about EvalScript, but I don't see any other method calling it when doing a search in github.
50 2014-08-08 07:44:58 <michagogo> omefire: try grep
51 2014-08-08 07:45:17 <michagogo> It's called by are inputs standard in main
52 2014-08-08 07:45:25 <michagogo> But also in other places in the same file
53 2014-08-08 07:50:21 <omefire> michagogo: hmmm, I see it.
54 2014-08-08 08:00:16 <omefire> michagogo: thanks.
55 2014-08-08 08:00:22 <michagogo> np
56 2014-08-08 10:25:29 <michagogo> hehe
57 2014-08-08 10:25:30 <michagogo> http://starlogs.net/#bitcoin/bitcoin
58 2014-08-08 10:25:51 <michagogo> (be aware that that does play music)
59 2014-08-08 10:56:13 <TheGreatSupaDupa> But we have lost the way.
60 2014-08-08 10:56:13 <TheGreatSupaDupa> Greed has poisoned men's souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical, our cleverness hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness,
61 2014-08-08 10:56:13 <TheGreatSupaDupa> I'm sorry, but I don't want to be an Emperor - that's not my business. I don't want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone, if possible -- Jew, gentile, black man, white. We all want to help one another; human beings are like that. We want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there's
62 2014-08-08 10:56:13 <TheGreatSupaDupa> room for everyone and the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
63 2014-08-08 10:56:13 <TheGreatSupaDupa> The way of life can be free and beautiful.
64 2014-08-08 10:56:14 <TheGreatSupaDupa> The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men, cries out for universal brotherhood for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women, and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people.
65 2014-08-08 10:56:14 <TheGreatSupaDupa> we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost.
66 2014-08-08 10:56:15 <TheGreatSupaDupa> Soldiers: Don't give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think and what to feel; who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men, machine men, with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have
67 2014-08-08 10:56:15 <TheGreatSupaDupa> To those who can hear me I say, "Do not despair." The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass and dictators die; and the power they took from the people will return to the people and so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
68 2014-08-08 10:56:16 <TheGreatSupaDupa> Soldiers: Don't fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the seventeenth chapter of Saint Luke it is written, "the kingdom of God is within man" -- not one man, nor a group of men, but in all men, in you, you the people have the power, the power to create machines, the power to create happiness. You the people have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful
69 2014-08-08 10:56:16 <TheGreatSupaDupa> the love of humanity in your hearts. You don't hate; only the unloved hate, the unloved and the unnatural.
70 2014-08-08 10:56:17 <TheGreatSupaDupa> adventure.
71 2014-08-08 10:56:17 <TheGreatSupaDupa> Then, in the name of democracy, let us use that power! Let us all unite!! Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men a chance to work, that will give you the future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power, but they lie! They do not fulfill their promise; they never will. Dictators free themselves, but they enslave the people!!
72 2014-08-08 10:56:18 <TheGreatSupaDupa> Now, let us fight to fulfill that promise!! Let us fight to free the world, to do away with national barriers, to do away with greed, with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men's happiness.
73 2014-08-08 10:59:34 <michagogo> o_O
74 2014-08-08 11:00:30 <michagogo> sipa: -wizards too
75 2014-08-08 11:03:44 <AaronvanW> and -news
76 2014-08-08 11:04:00 <Diablo-D3> what in holy fuck was that
77 2014-08-08 11:04:07 <gmaxwell> ignore it.
78 2014-08-08 11:04:40 <Diablo-D3> Im trying to, but I suddenly want to unite and throw off the oppression of the bourgeois pigs
79 2014-08-08 11:05:13 <AaronvanW> it's charlie chaplins speech from the dictator actually
80 2014-08-08 11:23:30 <Diablo-D3> [07:05:14] <AaronvanW> it's charlie chaplins speech from the dictator actually
81 2014-08-08 11:25:11 <Diablo-D3> youtube video that someone set to inception's music?
82 2014-08-08 11:25:16 <Diablo-D3> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FMNFvKEy4c
83 2014-08-08 11:25:18 <Diablo-D3> because bam
84 2014-08-08 12:48:01 <arioBarzan> Is there any documentation for all exceptional rules like p2sh (pindex->nTime >= 1333238400) or fEnforceBIP30 (after March 15, 2012, 0:00 UTC) ?
85 2014-08-08 12:49:04 <sipa> yes, the respective bips
86 2014-08-08 12:50:43 <arioBarzan> sipa: so one shouldn't expect more such rules other than those in the bips collections?
87 2014-08-08 12:51:58 <sipa> well, there is no authorative description of the consensus rules but the reference implementation itself
88 2014-08-08 12:52:32 <sipa> BIps are proposals that get adopted, they don't define the actual network behaviour, only the intention
89 2014-08-08 12:57:24 <sipa> such switchover dates are only used for very intentional changes of course, so yes, they should be in BIPs
90 2014-08-08 13:44:00 <jgarzik> reddit is aflutter about https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/497543580266004480 which refers to http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=invertible+bloom+lookup+tables
91 2014-08-08 13:51:34 <gribble> m0mchil was last seen in #bitcoin-dev 1 year, 20 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 27 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <m0mchil> sipa, gavinandresen: I agree. The scenario in which just large number of users see a message like 'Unrecoverable problem, check (system, new version, etc)' looks better than a fork
92 2014-08-08 13:51:34 <ThomasV> !seen m0mchil
93 2014-08-08 14:09:54 <t7> "You know that I know that you know about txn#4324 and that I'm including it in my next block"
94 2014-08-08 14:30:01 <Eliel_> looks like 512MB of RAM is no longer enough for running bitcoind comfortably :/
95 2014-08-08 14:30:42 <Eliel_> It barely keeps up but if you have a few hours of downtime, it takes considerable time until it catches up.
96 2014-08-08 14:32:19 <Eliel_> swap used, 300MB :P
97 2014-08-08 14:34:11 <wumpus> bitcoind has always been a memory hog
98 2014-08-08 14:34:26 <Eliel_> it used to be able to verify blocks without swapping :P
99 2014-08-08 14:34:26 <wumpus> but you found that it was worse with master?
100 2014-08-08 14:34:33 <jgarzik> Eliel_, yes, ~800MB resident seems normal
101 2014-08-08 14:37:49 <wumpus> there are a few things that you can dial down to save memory, at least the leveldb size, the maximum number of connections, the number of RPC threads, although I wouldn't expect it to run conformtably with only 512mb ever
102 2014-08-08 15:02:57 <wumpus> also make sure to disable the wallet if possible
103 2014-08-08 15:14:57 <dhill> jgarzik: ?
104 2014-08-08 15:15:07 <jgarzik> ?
105 2014-08-08 15:15:27 <dhill> should your getextsrv have a protocol bump?
106 2014-08-08 15:17:03 <jgarzik> dhill, does it need one?
107 2014-08-08 15:17:44 <dhill> i think so
108 2014-08-08 15:17:57 <dhill> you are adding messages to the wire
109 2014-08-08 15:19:04 <jgarzik> dhill, NODE_EXT_SERVICES is also an indicator
110 2014-08-08 15:19:12 <wumpus> though I don't mind either way, I think it is debatable, as the new message is behind a service flag
111 2014-08-08 15:19:58 <wumpus> does adding new functionality that is orthoginal to everything else need a version bump? I don't know
112 2014-08-08 15:21:09 <dhill> i kind of think of the protocol as a lib :) add to API gets a minor bump.. change api or delete api requires major bump. but i could be thinking about this wrong
113 2014-08-08 15:21:55 <dhill> but if it were bumped to say 70003.. you'd know which nodes you could send getextsrv to.
114 2014-08-08 15:22:19 <wumpus> for ex. OpenGL adds extensions all the time without a version bump, it only bumps versions once things become mandatory
115 2014-08-08 15:22:41 <wumpus> the advantage of this is that vendors can add extensions, without having to centrally coordinate
116 2014-08-08 15:23:22 <wumpus> well you still can't send getextsrc to nodes that don't have the service bit, even though they bump the version
117 2014-08-08 15:23:26 <hearn> that's partly a marketing thing though :)
118 2014-08-08 15:24:48 <wumpus> isn't everything
119 2014-08-08 15:30:08 <wumpus> Eliel_: also reducing -maxorphanblocks=<n> can help a lot; this defaults to 750
120 2014-08-08 15:30:37 <dhill> 10,000 nodes saying they are 70002. how do i know which ones support getextsrv? why waste packets sending a request to a node that you know doesnt support it. or waiting for a response in which will never come :)
121 2014-08-08 15:30:52 <wumpus> but it mostly affects the initial sync, or when catching up
122 2014-08-08 15:31:16 <jgarzik> dhill, the ones advertising NODE_EXT_SERVICES
123 2014-08-08 15:31:34 <wumpus> dhill: the service bits are propagated in various ways
124 2014-08-08 15:31:59 <sipa> propagated, and advertized
125 2014-08-08 15:32:02 <dhill> what do you think about int32_t port being short instead?
126 2014-08-08 15:32:04 <sipa> in the version message
127 2014-08-08 15:32:10 <wumpus> at connect in the version message, but also in addr messages
128 2014-08-08 15:32:32 <jgarzik> dhill, over engineering. it prevents use of -1
129 2014-08-08 15:32:37 <wumpus> it's not an inferior way of advertising features than the version number
130 2014-08-08 15:34:11 <dhill> when would you send -1 as the port?
131 2014-08-08 15:34:17 <wumpus> dhill: in a tighly packed small data structure, when you store millions of records, it could make siginificant difference.... otherwise it seems a waste of time to worry about it
132 2014-08-08 15:34:29 <jgarzik> dhill, when you have a service where "int port" does not make sense
133 2014-08-08 15:34:39 <jgarzik> dhill, maybe your service is located by pub key instead
134 2014-08-08 15:37:21 <wumpus> 0 is an invalid value for a port too, btw
135 2014-08-08 15:37:48 <wumpus> or you could add a has_port bit, and not use the value itself as marker at all :-)
136 2014-08-08 15:40:03 <dhill> right, if you use 0, then you could use uint16 ?
137 2014-08-08 15:40:24 <jgarzik> yes
138 2014-08-08 15:40:28 <jgarzik> still not a large concern
139 2014-08-08 15:53:24 <earlz> After accepting a block, is there a delay before a node will broadcast that accepted block(be it mined, or accepted from the network) ?
140 2014-08-08 15:55:58 <teward> are there plans to trim down the blockchain in the future?
141 2014-08-08 15:56:10 <teward> (in the bitcoin core wallet)
142 2014-08-08 15:56:21 <sipa> yes
143 2014-08-08 15:56:29 <sipa> well, not the blockchain, but the part that is stored, yes
144 2014-08-08 15:57:00 <teward> sipa: right, that's what i meant, forgive me but i'm not entirely 100% awake, due to not being allowed coffee
145 2014-08-08 15:57:47 <teward> sipa: there's no timeline for when that'll be available is there? I'm not looking forward to having to expand my bitcoin vm on my cluster to 100GB of disk space (it's got 50GB now, but i don't have too much space left in my virtual cluster for it)
146 2014-08-08 15:58:03 <sipa> 0.10 will likely support manual pruning
147 2014-08-08 15:58:09 <sipa> (as in, you delete old block files yourself)
148 2014-08-08 15:58:23 <teward> manual pruning is acceptable :)
149 2014-08-08 15:59:14 <gmaxwell> I hope we don't release with just a manual, encouraging people to muck with the blockfiles has not worked out well in the past.
150 2014-08-08 15:59:22 <wumpus> it won't work if you have the wallet enabled though
151 2014-08-08 15:59:25 <teward> it'd be nice if i hadn't let my VM stay off for 29 weeks though... *updates the software after backing up the wallet, then updates the blockchain*
152 2014-08-08 15:59:42 <wumpus> next time you'd trigger a rescan, it'd keel over
153 2014-08-08 17:00:29 <earlz> Where is the code responsible for transmitting blockS? I thought it'd be in net.cpp, but that appears to only have transaction relaying
154 2014-08-08 17:19:06 <jgarzik> You've got to be shitting me. Windows lacks strnlen(3) ???
155 2014-08-08 17:19:57 <jgarzik> earlz, ProcessGetData()
156 2014-08-08 17:20:34 <jgarzik> earlz, "inv" exchanges block or TX hashes. "getdata" gives you the data.
157 2014-08-08 18:18:10 <jgarzik> sipa, wumpus: when encapsulating C++ members inside 'protected', do people tend to prefer (a) member name "foo", methods GetFoo() SetFoo(), (b) name "foo_", methods foo(), setFoo(), (c) none of the above?
158 2014-08-08 18:18:14 <jgarzik> bitcoin seems to prefer (a)
159 2014-08-08 18:18:18 <jgarzik> boost seems to prefer (b)
160 2014-08-08 18:18:40 <jgarzik> (b) seems slightly more compact
161 2014-08-08 18:18:50 <jgarzik> yet "_" is ugly, internally
162 2014-08-08 18:19:12 <jgarzik> in exchange for prettier external code
163 2014-08-08 18:20:47 <ajweiss> bitcoin's windows roots are showing
164 2014-08-08 18:27:31 <jgarzik> ajweiss, that will show until we remove all traces of the thrice-damned Hungarian notation ;p
165 2014-08-08 19:30:24 <rnicoll> sipa, thanks for the suggestion re destroying the cursor. Testing that now, and found another cursor with the same issue elsewhere in the same file
166 2014-08-08 19:36:33 <cfields> michagogo: around?
167 2014-08-08 19:44:28 <earlz> I always kind of assumed Bitcoin was built initially on Linux, not Windows
168 2014-08-08 19:44:40 <earlz> the hungarian notation does indeed tell another story though heh
169 2014-08-08 19:44:54 <earlz> from what I've seen lots of good process removing it though :)
170 2014-08-08 19:45:08 <rnicoll> earlz, really? I went crazy trying to assemble a Windows build, actually build Windows via Gitian these days
171 2014-08-08 19:45:57 <Luke-Jr> the original Bitcoin client didn't run on anything but Windows
172 2014-08-08 19:46:06 <Luke-Jr> but with Satoshi gone, things change quickly :p
173 2014-08-08 19:46:32 <earlz> well, initially it still used qt and all that portable stuff too. Never seen any win32 references at least heh
174 2014-08-08 19:47:05 <earlz> I glanced over some bitcoin 0.1.5 code (oldest in github?) and wow were those some dark ages lol
175 2014-08-08 19:47:07 <Luke-Jr> earlz: no, it didn't.
176 2014-08-08 19:47:14 <earlz> it didn't?
177 2014-08-08 19:47:24 <Luke-Jr> Bitcoin-Qt is a fork that took over
178 2014-08-08 19:47:33 <earlz> huh. wow
179 2014-08-08 19:47:40 <earlz> did satoshi ever contribute to bitcoin-qt?
180 2014-08-08 19:47:44 <Luke-Jr> no
181 2014-08-08 19:47:49 <Luke-Jr> he was completely gone by then
182 2014-08-08 19:47:56 <earlz> wow so when was that? 2010?
183 2014-08-08 19:48:19 <Luke-Jr> 2011
184 2014-08-08 19:48:53 <earlz> So, what is 0.1.5 in github? Is that the first version of the qt wallet?
185 2014-08-08 19:48:57 <Luke-Jr> no
186 2014-08-08 19:49:02 <Luke-Jr> 0.1.5 is the original client
187 2014-08-08 19:49:12 <Luke-Jr> there's no Qt in ti
188 2014-08-08 19:49:14 <Luke-Jr> it*
189 2014-08-08 19:49:24 <earlz> hmm.. wow
190 2014-08-08 19:49:31 <pigeons> bitcoin used wxwidgets when satoshi made it
191 2014-08-08 19:49:36 <Luke-Jr> the first official version of Bitcoin-Qt I think was 0.5.0
192 2014-08-08 19:49:49 <earlz> no separation between RPC and graphical either it looks like heh
193 2014-08-08 19:49:57 <Luke-Jr> earlz: did 0.1.5 even have RPC?
194 2014-08-08 19:50:06 <earlz> lol true. probably not
195 2014-08-08 19:50:32 <Luke-Jr> ACTION wonders if 0.1.5 had the decentralised market still
196 2014-08-08 19:50:47 <earlz> decentralized market?
197 2014-08-08 19:51:04 <Luke-Jr> earlz: Bitcoin once had some incomplete frameworks for a marketplace
198 2014-08-08 19:51:18 <Luke-Jr> not sure when that was added, but Satoshi never finished it so it later got removed
199 2014-08-08 19:51:26 <earlz> Was it removed because it wasn't a priority, or just cause it's flawed?
200 2014-08-08 19:51:32 <Luke-Jr> it was never finihsed
201 2014-08-08 19:51:49 <pigeons> market.cpp is in 0.1
202 2014-08-08 19:51:59 <earlz> interesting that some altcoins have market type stuff lol
203 2014-08-08 19:52:04 <Luke-Jr> actually, I wonder if 0.1.5 was before addresses :p
204 2014-08-08 19:52:18 <earlz> before addresses? So what, you send to public key?
205 2014-08-08 19:52:26 <Luke-Jr> earlz: no, it was originally pay-to-IP
206 2014-08-08 19:52:31 <earlz> to IP? wtf
207 2014-08-08 19:52:47 <pigeons> yeah you had to be online
208 2014-08-08 19:53:08 <earlz> Wouldn't you be capable of being hijacked?
209 2014-08-08 19:53:20 <Luke-Jr> yep
210 2014-08-08 19:53:25 <Luke-Jr> which is why it was removed :p
211 2014-08-08 19:53:35 <Luke-Jr> and replaced with the newer payment protocol, which uses TLS and such
212 2014-08-08 19:53:38 <earlz> So it connected to IP, and then received a public key, which went into the block chain?
213 2014-08-08 19:54:23 <Luke-Jr> earlz: it received a scriptPubKey, yes
214 2014-08-08 19:55:02 <earlz> wow
215 2014-08-08 19:55:25 <earlz> no wonder bitcoin wasn't popular in it's early days lol. the dark ages
216 2014-08-08 19:55:57 <earlz> Has anyone been here since the beginning, or pretty near close to it? Other than I guess gavin?
217 2014-08-08 19:56:08 <pigeons> yeah i mined a bit in 2009
218 2014-08-08 19:56:16 <pigeons> i know some others who did
219 2014-08-08 19:56:34 <earlz> lol were you a bitcoin millionaire or did you sell when it hit 25 cents? lol
220 2014-08-08 19:56:45 <pigeons> yeah sold
221 2014-08-08 19:58:08 <earlz> I think it's interesting looking at some of the early altcoins. Like tenibrix or whatever it was called. Forked off I guess before the qt wallet existed
222 2014-08-08 19:58:19 <rnicoll> ACTION sold all his BTC at $20
223 2014-08-08 19:59:13 <earlz> lol thing is, no one knew bitcoin would take off. First of it's kind. When I first heard about it, I was like "you're kidding right? People waste electricity to create these magical coin things?"
224 2014-08-08 19:59:34 <rnicoll> I thought it was interesting, but when my coins went up to $20 I thought "Incredible, I'll sell for a profit!"
225 2014-08-08 19:59:42 <rnicoll> so... yeah, don't take investment advice from me
226 2014-08-08 19:59:46 <earlz> ACTION almost made a moderate investment when bitcoin first spiked up to $60
227 2014-08-08 20:00:15 <earlz> If Mt. Gox hadn't been such a pain to get money into, I would've bought probably 3 or 4 BTC
228 2014-08-08 20:01:02 <rnicoll> ACTION laughs "Just remembering... yeah, I traded L$ into BTC"
229 2014-08-08 20:03:54 <rnicoll> anyway, best not thought about too much. Focus on the future
230 2014-08-08 20:04:44 <earlz> Is there are any binaries for the very early bitcoin releases? I'm curious what 0.1 looked like lol
231 2014-08-08 21:27:37 <dream4u> Best site with a BTC api // way to accept BTC deposits quickly?
232 2014-08-08 21:29:39 <Dizzle> dream4u: you should try #Bitcoin. This is for Bitcoin Core, protocol, etc.
233 2014-08-08 21:29:55 <dream4u> ah
234 2014-08-08 21:30:04 <dream4u> thnx
235 2014-08-08 22:45:41 <maria2> HELLO
236 2014-08-08 22:45:47 <maria2> HOLA
237 2014-08-08 22:46:20 <maria2> OBYRE
238 2014-08-08 22:46:24 <maria2> OBYE