1 2014-10-07 00:24:32 <AdmiralAltcoin> trying to to a testnet btc txn without help, but getting confused if someone could clarify the script input for me? Just need to know does the scriptPubKey (25bytes after OP_HASH160 on blockexplorer.com) need to be reversed like the value and previous txid fields (little Endian)?
2 2014-10-07 00:26:33 <AdmiralAltcoin> https://blockexplorer.com/testnet/rawtx/b6aa5308788c0afe30b809ac4e405861d73f5ff17b9e702f5454237f94141d96 in case that helps, curious if this is what is being used for input: 76a914808dc34fd51c936e2db7c702745228b5a6a53d5588ac"
3 2014-10-07 01:02:45 <skinnkavaj> Alright so now gavin have proposed what looks like a good plan for the scalability
4 2014-10-07 01:03:27 <skinnkavaj> Now we just need to focus on the mining centralization issue, this is a problem we should acknoledge and try to fix. there must be a way.
5 2014-10-07 01:20:23 <samson_>
6 2014-10-07 01:21:28 <samson_> New PM from BCX :
7 2014-10-07 01:21:29 <samson_> I have removed most of post accusing Baritus of still being involved.
8 2014-10-07 01:21:29 <samson_> You should delete your responses, relaunch your fundraiser in a new SELF MODDED THREAD to which I will respond with a post stating I am confident now that baritus is gone.
9 2014-10-07 01:22:01 <samson_> sorry - wrong channel !
10 2014-10-07 01:22:09 <samson_> copy/paste error !
11 2014-10-07 01:22:23 <samson_> meant to be pm - my bad !
12 2014-10-07 01:28:17 <hhhhhhhhhh> do you encrypt bitcoin addresses when you store them in your database like passwords
13 2014-10-07 01:28:53 <samson_> of course not - passwords should be hashed not encrypted
14 2014-10-07 01:29:32 <hhhhhhhhhh> oops thats what i mean
15 2014-10-07 01:29:37 <hhhhhhhhhh> hash addresses
16 2014-10-07 05:44:34 <vrjdev> Hi , I am new to bitcoin , any links from where I can start
17 2014-10-07 05:45:07 <justanotheruser> vrjdev: #bitcoin is a good start. got some links in the topic
18 2014-10-07 05:48:19 <vrjdev> thanks mate
19 2014-10-07 07:09:02 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: YOU BROKE github-merge.sh
20 2014-10-07 07:09:34 <wumpus> I guess I should go on holiday now, as I can't merge anything anymore :)
21 2014-10-07 07:12:07 <SomeoneWeird> wumpus: Uhoh
22 2014-10-07 07:14:49 <sipa> wumpus: how?
23 2014-10-07 07:18:24 <cfields> wumpus: eh? the bash thing broke it?
24 2014-10-07 07:23:20 <wumpus> pull #5038
25 2014-10-07 07:25:34 <sipa> ah i missed thatit modified github-merge
26 2014-10-07 07:28:32 <wumpus> I'll just revert the changes to that
27 2014-10-07 07:29:29 <wumpus> it's not part of the automake system anyway, it doesn't need compatibilty with the 80's
28 2014-10-07 07:30:05 <sipa> haha
29 2014-10-07 07:31:16 <wumpus> and if someone complains it doesn't run in their shell: please rewrite it in python
30 2014-10-07 07:31:31 <midnightmagic> or C! :-D
31 2014-10-07 07:31:41 <wumpus> no, python :)
32 2014-10-07 07:32:15 <cfields> yep, just good old portable python3 :)
33 2014-10-07 07:32:18 <wumpus> at some point we converted the test code from terrible bash scriptisms to python as well
34 2014-10-07 07:32:49 <wumpus> although there are still some bash RPC tests I believe... need to be ported over
35 2014-10-07 12:37:21 <hearn> good afternoon
36 2014-10-07 12:39:41 <t7> aft'noon
37 2014-10-07 12:39:49 <t7> 'ow are ya?
38 2014-10-07 12:45:38 <hearn> not bad!
39 2014-10-07 12:45:53 <hearn> i've started biking to my "office" :) let's see if i can keep it up during the winter ...
40 2014-10-07 12:48:54 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: oops? I was kindof assuming the new github-merge.sh would be used to merge that PR :x
41 2014-10-07 15:18:15 <gavinandresen> petertodd: ping
42 2014-10-07 16:06:13 <starsoccer> hello, Was curious if anyone knew of a good multisignature api
43 2014-10-07 16:06:21 <starsoccer> or open source multisig service/site
44 2014-10-07 16:10:34 <gavinandresen> TD-Linux: RE: âP2SH was a soft fork and the sky did not fall, but miners did lose money and waste electricity mining blocks on the wrong side of the chainâ
45 2014-10-07 16:10:50 <TD-Linux> wrong highlight :)
46 2014-10-07 16:11:19 <gavinandresen> TD-Linux: hmm? Are you not the same TD that is Mike Hearn?
47 2014-10-07 16:11:28 <TD-Linux> nope
48 2014-10-07 16:11:53 <gavinandresen> ah, ok.
49 2014-10-07 16:11:53 <hearn> gavinandresen: i stopped using that nick, sorry for the confusion
50 2014-10-07 16:12:01 <jgarzik> gavinandresen, the entity you seek is usually now found under category of: hearn
51 2014-10-07 16:12:12 <gavinandresen> jgarzik: thanks
52 2014-10-07 16:12:12 <hearn> nobody who visited #bitcoinj knew where to find me with the old nick :) so after a good 15 year run i retired it ...
53 2014-10-07 16:12:28 <hearn> TweedleDee shortened to fit nick limits on old IRC networks .... is no more
54 2014-10-07 16:12:31 <gavinandresen> hearn: RE: P2SH soft fork: weâve learned from that mistake
55 2014-10-07 16:12:58 <gavinandresen> ⦠hence the code to warn if block.version starts to change out from under you, and code that makes up-version transactions non-standard
56 2014-10-07 16:14:00 <hearn> having logging is good is an improvement over the old state of affairs for sure, though i doubt many miners/merchants check the logs regularly unless there's a problem. they can still end up on the wrong side of the fork though.
57 2014-10-07 16:17:30 <hearn> my root concern is maintaining the full validation guarantee that bitcoin has always implicitly made. IsStandard does complicate it because you can think a transaction will work and then it doesn't get confirmed, if you fall behind the IsStandard rules or if there's version skew.
58 2014-10-07 16:17:42 <hearn> but that only affects the mempool which has always been less guaranteed
59 2014-10-07 16:18:08 <hearn> on the other hand, there are plenty of places that say "1 block == good", and changing that out from underneath people seems wrong somehow.
60 2014-10-07 16:18:55 <hearn> sorry, above "implicitly" should read "explicitly"
61 2014-10-07 17:19:07 <Happzz> so bitcoin-qt re-broadcasts txs that didnt confirm every so often, right? how do i prevent that
62 2014-10-07 17:44:05 <Happzz> i think i got it.
63 2014-10-07 17:58:05 <CheckDavid> Anyone looking for a job in a Bitcoin Business? If so, feel free to PM me with your skills or inquiries. We have many vacancies to fill.
64 2014-10-07 18:25:00 <sipa> wumpus: ooh, reindexing support!
65 2014-10-07 18:25:02 <sipa> ACTION tests
66 2014-10-07 18:25:25 <sipa> CheckDavid: not here
67 2014-10-07 19:04:58 <sipa> wumpus: the easiest waytofix the skipping problem with it is just to reindex allfilesalways entirely
68 2014-10-07 19:05:02 <sipa> wumpus: testing that now
69 2014-10-07 19:05:20 <sipa> it can be optimized bydetecting that a particular block is already processed, and not bothering toread it inthatcase
70 2014-10-07 19:19:44 <jtimon> how can I make core compile before server?
71 2014-10-07 19:20:23 <sipa> make libbitcoin_core.a check ?
72 2014-10-07 19:20:38 <sipa> bylisting it explicitly as a target before anything else?
73 2014-10-07 19:20:47 <sipa> (just a guess; i haven't tested this)
74 2014-10-07 19:24:05 <sipa> wumpus: seems to work very well; letme include your patch + my optimization in the headersfirst tree
75 2014-10-07 19:27:31 <sipa> once this 2-thread 1.83 GHz processor finishes compiling...
76 2014-10-07 19:27:43 <jtimon> since server depends on core, it would be nice if core was built first by default
77 2014-10-07 19:27:51 <sipa> jtimon: makes sense
78 2014-10-07 19:27:54 <jtimon> I'll try that though
79 2014-10-07 19:28:04 <sipa> probablysomeordering issue in the makefiles
80 2014-10-07 19:31:46 <jtimon> coryfields could you take a look at this? ^^
81 2014-10-07 19:42:22 <Happzz> if i remove unconfirmed txs with pywallet and then rescan, will bitcoin-qt show the balance as if those txs i removed and didnt confirm never existed?
82 2014-10-07 19:42:29 <Happzz> will it try to re-spend the inputs?
83 2014-10-07 19:42:37 <sipa> yes, yes
84 2014-10-07 19:42:45 <Happzz> thanks
85 2014-10-07 19:42:52 <Happzz> oh, one last thing
86 2014-10-07 19:43:18 <Happzz> i send a tx, it doesnt confirm for days, i remove the tx, i rescan, then my client sees the tx in the network
87 2014-10-07 19:43:27 <Happzz> will it actively try to re-send it every 30 mins as well?
88 2014-10-07 19:44:04 <sipa> yes
89 2014-10-07 19:46:32 <jtimon> make libbitcoin_core.a check -j2
90 2014-10-07 19:46:32 <jtimon> make: *** No rule to make target 'libbitcoin_core.a'. Stop.
91 2014-10-07 19:46:38 <jtimon> no luck
92 2014-10-07 19:47:20 <sipa> uhm
93 2014-10-07 19:47:27 <sipa> the lib is calledlibbitcoin_common.aapparetly :)
94 2014-10-07 19:47:53 <sipa> sorry, typing sucks here
95 2014-10-07 19:50:52 <jtimon> oh, yep, stupid me, that works
96 2014-10-07 20:59:08 <ninjashogun> hey
97 2014-10-07 20:59:25 <ninjashogun> Let's design an ATM card that is a Bitcoin wallet. Who is up to the task with me. Ideas? Thoughts? Purpose: so that dumb users can just "get a card" rather than have to learn how to set up a complicated node on a p2p network. They already use ATM cards. So, this is a form factor thing.
98 2014-10-07 20:59:32 <ninjashogun> how might we approach this question?
99 2014-10-07 21:02:03 <Eliel> ninjashogun: two things. One, that's probably off topic for this channel. Two, google bitcoincard.
100 2014-10-07 21:03:22 <Eliel> although, it looks like that project ended up as vapourware.
101 2014-10-07 21:03:59 <ninjashogun> Eliel - interesting link. did they actually solve the problem though, or just advertise something with 'imagine'?
102 2014-10-07 21:04:14 <Eliel> they supposedly had actual prototypes even
103 2014-10-07 21:04:43 <ninjashogun> I scrubbed thorugh most of the video. Where are hte prototypes? Were they in the final form factor? If so, what happened?
104 2014-10-07 21:05:11 <Eliel> no idea, the radio silence is deafening
105 2014-10-07 21:05:11 <ninjashogun> I mean, if we're being precoius about it, the laptop in front of me is a prototype for a card-sized bitcoin client. (Since it is a bitcoin client.)
106 2014-10-07 21:05:36 <ninjashogun> Eliel - what makes you think they had prototypes?
107 2014-10-07 21:06:48 <Eliel> it was so long ago that I don't remember the details anymore. I'm sure you'll find the info if you look for it.
108 2014-10-07 21:07:16 <ninjashogun> okay
109 2014-10-07 21:08:05 <ninjashogun> Eliel - how can you imagine a usage case where a person could use their ATM card at an ATM, and either check their bitcoin balance, or buy some more bitcoins using an alternative card?
110 2014-10-07 21:11:02 <Eliel> as for myself, I'm not interested in any kind of a wallet device without it's own screen.
111 2014-10-07 21:12:31 <christophe> Without a (signer -> user) communication channel, tampering with payment info is a risk.
112 2014-10-07 21:21:56 <ninjashogun> Eliel, this makes sense. :)
113 2014-10-07 21:22:03 <phantomcircuit> you are wildly off topic
114 2014-10-07 21:48:30 <BlueMatt> cfields: ping
115 2014-10-07 21:48:34 <BlueMatt> what happened to https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/builds/37322419
116 2014-10-07 21:48:49 <BlueMatt> can we get travis to rebuild headers-first?
117 2014-10-07 21:48:54 <BlueMatt> maybe sipa wants to change a commit date?
118 2014-10-07 22:00:18 <grep2grok> anybody got contact with MagicalTux? bitcoin.it just recorded a password reset attempt on my account, and his admin email (contact@bitcoin.it) is getting bounced to bitcointalk.org, which failed permanently.
119 2014-10-07 22:01:09 <Happzz> hes in jail
120 2014-10-07 22:01:20 <Happzz> or maybe in panama, on the beach, drinking some coconuts
121 2014-10-07 22:01:28 <grep2grok> I doubt that, his twitter account is alive and well
122 2014-10-07 22:01:42 <Happzz> he should be in jail*
123 2014-10-07 22:02:58 <Dizzle> grep2grok: I'd just hit him up on FreeNode if its important. He was online yesterday.
124 2014-10-07 22:34:49 <Sleepnbum> semi bitcoin related -- what are the odds David Byrne's "Medici" platform uses counterparty vs a new altcoin?
125 2014-10-07 22:43:48 <Sleepnbum> fack, wrong channel.. sry all