1 2015-02-19 00:52:57 <earlz> So, what exactly is the effect of block version 3 on miners? I understand that bumping that version tends to break things that are hard coded
 2 2015-02-19 00:53:06 <earlz> but not the technical details as to why the block version was bumped
 3 2015-02-19 00:59:32 <phantomcircuit> earlz, it's a soft fork for the BIP 6 er 66? rules
 4 2015-02-19 00:59:55 <earlz> ah.. I see, just to indicate the soft-fork then
 5 2015-02-19 01:00:02 <phantomcircuit> yes
 6 2015-02-19 01:00:14 <phantomcircuit> and it shouldn't break anything that isnt completely retarded
 7 2015-02-19 01:00:30 <earlz> idk why the release notes make it sound so ominous then
 8 2015-02-19 01:00:45 <earlz> just the fear of the block version number changing and breaking thnigs?
 9 2015-02-19 01:02:31 <cfields> wumpus: I forgot to reply to your ping this morning... Looking at it now, I only see a passing build
10 2015-02-19 01:03:13 <cfields> wumpus: though, I assume it's like the others that I've seen, where the tester gives up before it's actually connected to bitcoind?
11 2015-02-19 01:04:05 <cfields> wumpus: iirc BlueMatt has addressed that somewhere. Though i agree, even if that's fixed, the current log dump situation isn't exactly ideal
12 2015-02-19 01:06:34 <gmaxwell> earlz: perhaps you should take the words as they are and not try to read thinks into them? you're reading random things into them. there is nothing especially interesting about the block version number changing.
13 2015-02-19 01:06:39 <cfields> BlueMatt: did you ever get anywhere with ^^ ? If not, I can pick up where you left off
14 2015-02-19 01:07:16 <phantomcircuit> sigh why do i need to be root to get gnupg to work with this smartcard
15 2015-02-19 01:07:17 <phantomcircuit> >.>
16 2015-02-19 01:10:15 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: NSA implant software doesn't know a priv elevation w/ your kernel?
17 2015-02-19 01:10:25 <gmaxwell> Which gpg smartcard? (and does it support more than a 2kbit key?)
18 2015-02-19 01:10:33 <phantomcircuit> yubikey neo nano
19 2015-02-19 01:11:04 <phantomcircuit> and of course it doesnt
20 2015-02-19 01:11:06 <earlz> there is no indication that the only change is the block version is what I'm saying.. it reads like it's a huge change that'll break everything if you don't upgrade... which maybe is better than miners not updating lol
21 2015-02-19 01:11:16 <phantomcircuit> 2048 bits is enough for everybody!
22 2015-02-19 01:12:14 <gmaxwell> earlz: #bitcoin please.
23 2015-02-19 01:20:13 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, why do you ask about the 2kb keys?
24 2015-02-19 01:21:30 <gmaxwell> because it's a weird limitation of all current pgp smartcards, there were supposted to be some newer ones that could do larger.  2048 has now become a 'minimum recommendation'
25 2015-02-19 01:29:33 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, yeah all my keys are normally 4kb
26 2015-02-19 01:32:16 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, it was my impression that the typical case was you use the smart card key to sign a normal key and then use the smartcard key to revoke that key if it's compromised
27 2015-02-19 01:32:40 <phantomcircuit> of course revocation has probably been broken for ages but lets ignore that...
28 2015-02-19 02:58:42 <BlueMatt> cfields: yup, was missing the "python" package :p