1 2015-10-14 00:30:16 <warren> Luke-Jr: write a proposal for it
 2 2015-10-14 00:52:20 <Arnavion> I'm sure HN will be very disappointed if it's not Rust
 3 2015-10-14 02:30:29 <jcorgan> jtimon: my comment was a joke, but in general, i do support the idea of C over C++ for reference implementations or as "documentation"
 4 2015-10-14 04:15:04 <maaku> jcorgan: i support literate brainf--k for consensus code. but I suspect I am alone!
 5 2015-10-14 04:27:16 <zooko> lol
 6 2015-10-14 06:55:13 <wumpus> well the consensus code *is* C++ in our case, no way around it. You can't just port it to a different language and guarantee it is the same, that's the whole problem. For a new system I'd go with a custom VM/language probably.
 7 2015-10-14 06:59:16 <wumpus> 'carefully-written C' is a delusion, and a dangerous one, people that think they can write that usually overestimate themselves
 8 2015-10-14 07:00:32 <wumpus> unless you are one of the few people that is an absolute language lawyer in C and has read and internalized the entire specifications. And yeah, C++ is even more horrible...
 9 2015-10-14 08:55:17 <frank1e> Aloah everyone
10 2015-10-14 12:52:21 <berndj> mailing list hygiene: does it seem reasonable to reply to non-dev messages on -dev but make Reply-To: -discuss and remove -dev from the reply? also to Cc: the author so they at least get the response?
11 2015-10-14 12:57:39 <wumpus> berndj: you could do that, but do mention in the message that the thread should be moved to -discuss, not everyone will pick up such hints
12 2015-10-14 14:14:27 <waxwing> is libsecp256k1 something that can be used as an independent library yet?
13 2015-10-14 14:18:46 <helo> surely...
14 2015-10-14 14:21:19 <wumpus> it can (and is) used, but there hasn't been a release yet
15 2015-10-14 14:21:25 <wumpus> will be soon tho
16 2015-10-14 14:21:56 <waxwing> i'm musing about whether it could be used in a python bitcoin library with a python binding ... anything like that has been done/makes sense?
17 2015-10-14 14:22:01 <waxwing> i guess just for signatures
18 2015-10-14 14:23:07 <wumpus> https://github.com/ludbb/secp256k1-py
19 2015-10-14 14:23:44 <waxwing> wumpus: interesting, thanks
20 2015-10-14 17:07:37 <jl2012> There is no much blocksize/scalability discussion after the Sept workshop. Is there anyone working on proposals to be presented in the December workshop?
21 2015-10-14 18:49:32 <maaku> jl2012: yes
22 2015-10-14 18:50:43 <maaku> but mainly people are playing catch-up with all the extremely important things that got ignored during the workshop, e.g. mempool limiting, and fixing critical vulnerabilities
23 2015-10-14 20:43:51 <instagibbs> wumpus, waxwing oh nice, I was doing that for kicks, but if it's already done... :)
24 2015-10-14 20:45:20 <KutmasteR> you can help me for kicks
25 2015-10-14 20:45:31 <instagibbs> I was trying ctypes, but having less luck
26 2015-10-14 21:29:26 <Luke-Jr> btcdrak: any updates for addrindex I should pull in for 0.11.1?