1 2015-12-22 00:23:48 <brg444> huh
 2 2015-12-22 00:23:51 <brg444> "miners revert back to the pre-sigwit rules: I believe in that case they could steal all the segwit coins."
 3 2015-12-22 00:25:06 <brg444> can anyone make sense of any or this or just noise I should ignore?
 4 2015-12-22 00:29:54 <Eliel_> brg444: not a credible fear. Mostly because by the time segwit enforcement commences, big enough portion of the network will be running it that any miners who try to ignore the new rules will just end up ignored.
 5 2015-12-22 00:30:17 <Eliel_> not credible for the same reason as it's not a credible fear to think miners would just suddenly decide all coins are theirs.
 6 2015-12-22 02:02:35 <instagibbs> Miners can't force hard forks.
 7 2015-12-22 06:22:26 <da2ce7_mobile_> it would be great if we could get at least Chinese translations of: https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/capacity-increases and https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011865.html
 8 2015-12-22 06:22:38 <da2ce7_mobile_> for bitcoin.org
 9 2015-12-22 06:40:15 <jl2012> da2ce7_mobile_ I can translate but that's a bit long. Maybe not word-by-word translation
10 2015-12-22 07:10:29 <da2ce7_mobile_> jl2012 on 8btc there is a news article on the topic.
11 2015-12-22 07:10:42 <da2ce7_mobile_> http://www.8btc.com/capacity-increases
12 2015-12-22 07:25:33 <jl2012> I think 8btc has just translated the interpretation of theymos
13 2015-12-22 08:52:16 <jl2012> It is mentioned that we could have a Chinese-English bilingual mailing list. Anyone working on that? Any suggestion?
14 2015-12-22 08:52:36 <jl2012> I can help the translation. But we need a platform first
15 2015-12-22 09:03:43 <da2ce7_mobile_> jl2012 I think that it would be great the announcement should be translated to here: https://bitcoin.org/zh_CN/
16 2015-12-22 10:22:31 <wumpus> ugh, next two meetings couldn't fall on worse days/times, evening of 24 december and 31 december
17 2015-12-22 10:30:51 <maaku> two week haitus?
18 2015-12-22 10:31:09 <maaku> incidentally, would recommend shifting the release schedule to not fall over the holidays
19 2015-12-22 10:32:46 <adam3us> jl2012 linux-foundation is where the other lists are
20 2015-12-22 10:38:16 <wumpus> maaku: that was taken into account, e.g. first RC is jan 6, would otherwise be jan 1, and december is kept very empty on purpose
21 2015-12-22 10:40:07 <wumpus> 0.12 has been frozen on dec 1, anything this month is basically testing and last minute bug fixes
22 2015-12-22 10:44:56 <wumpus> but yes re: the meetings, a two week hiatus makes sense
23 2015-12-22 11:22:49 <maaku> how does one do a gitian biuld of current working directory?
24 2015-12-22 11:25:18 <Luke-Jr> -u bitcoin=/home/luke-jr/Projects/Education/Tonal/BitCoin/bitcoin
25 2015-12-22 11:27:46 <maaku> bin/gbuild --url bitcoin=../bitcoin ../bitcoin/contrib/gitian-descriptors/gitian-linux.yml bin/gbuild:244:in `block in <main>': must specify a commit for directory bitcoin (RuntimeError)
26 2015-12-22 11:29:46 <maaku> seems to want me to use --commit instead of --url ...
27 2015-12-22 11:33:23 <midnightmagic> the URL is the source of the bitcoin repo. the --commit is the checkout it uses on-the-fly during initial cloning. the descriptor i think has to be external to the URL location.  for the --commit, you can do a check-in, then use: --commit bitcoin=abcdefg... as long as you also use the URL pointing to your local repository.
28 2015-12-22 11:35:16 <maaku> so you have to have a commit, that's somewhat annoying. but thanks it's working
29 2015-12-22 11:35:35 <Luke-Jr> maaku: you need both
30 2015-12-22 11:42:21 <wumpus> you can also give a branch name like 'master'
31 2015-12-22 11:43:23 <wumpus> you don't strictly need to specific a specific commit or tag, although for determinism that's usually what you want, if not you could just as well build using the depends system that's pretty much equivalent to gitian without the determinism luggage :)
32 2015-12-22 11:43:40 <maaku> right this is a one-off test though, so I was trying to build something uncommitted
33 2015-12-22 11:43:47 <maaku> but simple enought to stage and use that
34 2015-12-22 11:44:10 <wumpus> right, in that case I'd go with using the depends system directly for a (cross-)build
35 2015-12-22 11:44:15 <maaku> (testing #7192)
36 2015-12-22 11:49:03 <Luke-Jr> yes, -c HEAD should probably work
37 2015-12-22 11:49:09 <Luke-Jr> actually, HEAD might not now that I think about it
38 2015-12-22 11:51:31 <wumpus> no, I don't think HEAD works, you need an actual branch name
39 2015-12-22 11:53:50 <maaku> HEAD doesn't work, but stash{0} should
40 2015-12-22 11:53:57 <maaku> (waiting for a build to finish before i try)
41 2015-12-22 11:54:08 <maaku> oh wait no, it totally wouldn't
42 2015-12-22 11:54:19 <maaku> has to be something fetchable